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mrgypsum
on 2004-12-04 20:08 [#01415989]
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if you need to resist getting stoned, i would say you have some addiction to it, now this is nothing like substance addiction or alcohol addiction, more like coffee or tobacco.
its actually much worse, because not many people see a marijuana addiction as dangerous.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2004-12-04 20:08 [#01415990]
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i see what you mean, i wanted to be "on a level" all the time so i smoked all the time. but it wasn't addictive because i had the option to stop any time i wanted, and subsequently did stop instantly, and that was 8 months ago. so its not addictive
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mrgypsum
on 2004-12-04 20:10 [#01415992]
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right, you do not have a chemical addiction to it, but its a different kind of addiction, almost like a coffee or cigarette, but i just posted this oh well.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-04 20:12 [#01415997]
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yeah...i get what you mean. you're absolutely right. it's an addiction but easy to quit.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2004-12-04 20:14 [#01415999]
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not like a cigarette at all. not being argumentitive, but i had no dependance on weed, no desire for it other than i liked the buzz. coffee or tea i could live without. smoking i would struggle a lot to give up with . after a day without a fag i'm not a happy person.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-12-04 20:14 [#01416000]
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easy to stop but not to quit, can you honestly say you are never going to smoke another joint?
apply the same to acid, ectasy, heroin, coke etc...
its a routine addiction, people dont place much importance on it, thats the danger
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-04 20:18 [#01416014]
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ofcourse not...but i can't say i'll stop eating either.
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nurse
from a darkness more than night (Finland) on 2004-12-04 21:31 [#01416080]
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I can't understand theo himself's problem, i mean if something makes you feel bad, then don't do it. Personally i've smoked weed maybe 4-5 times and it doesn't really do anything for me, i get pretty much the same way as when i down a pint of beer, jokes seem a bit funnier, you laugh a bit more, thats it.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-12-04 21:33 [#01416083]
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yeah... girls seem more attractive then they really are. That one is a motherfucker
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-12-04 22:14 [#01416144]
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It's a bit different once you've done it for some while. Especially if you've done other hallucinogens. It was wayyy different the first times.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-12-05 07:22 [#01416311]
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i smoked weed everyday for 2 years, and things start to get a little weird after a time, like map says, plus, you are always looking to get higher, mixing different things, so i know exactly what hes talking about, but like i said, there are ways you can counter 'the fear', but you know its always there, even to this day, i havent smoke it regularly in 6 years, but whenever i even take a puff, i still get it
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elektric_drums
from United States on 2004-12-05 13:24 [#01416567]
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i havent smoked it in over 3 weeks because i'm being drug tested on a regular basis.
i really miss it. i don't miss being paranoid all the time. but i definately miss the extra creative energy it gives me.
when i'm old and retired i'de like to get a beach house, where i'll do nothing but smoke pot, have sex, and make music forever.
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-12-05 13:47 [#01416594]
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greatest thing about pot, over-analyzing EVERYTHING
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-12-05 14:12 [#01416628]
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Just wanted to say that sometimes I cannot even talk to my friends when I am high. I do become "morbidly introspective" when around others and high. This leads to shitty shit sense of self and complete sapping of personal confidence. I know people say just to block it out, but it completely takes over me until its done.
Granted it doesnt happen everytime, but often! 80%
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-12-05 15:12 [#01416664]
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I think a lot of times this 'fear' comes on because you think it HAS to come with the territory, you know what I mean? like you think the last couple of times I smoked it really fucked me up about 20 minutes into it.. I just smoked so it's going to hit me soon aaaaand boom it hits you..because you made it hit you and knock you the fuck out.. it's self-fulfilling prophecy.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-12-05 15:29 [#01416672]
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an example from my post below, when i used to get it at parties and when i smoked at shows and stuff, i would start to think, for example, that i was really alone and hadnt any friends who knew the real me, but that there was no way to really counter this, it really got me paranoid and down, but i would analyze the crap out of it - but when i would start to come down, i would calm down and everything would return to normal. but then in order to calm down when i was high, i started to reason with myself, about how certain i was of some of my friends, and i really analyzed the crap out of that and BAM it hit me, if i can come to two completely opposite conclusions, then it is the effect of the drug that is getting me down, and not reality, thats how i shrugged it off, you cant argue with logic
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-12-05 15:48 [#01416678]
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How Boring! Please save this for your 'genius' friends to discuss
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-12-05 15:54 [#01416680]
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Beware the friendly stranger
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-12-05 16:14 [#01416688]
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I've been smoking pot for over 15 years now and i suggest everyone should start emmediately
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-12-06 13:57 [#01417441]
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what does my cum taste like?
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-06 14:00 [#01417442]
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Shut up.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-12-06 14:02 [#01417443]
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pOgO says smoke dope
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2004-12-06 14:19 [#01417455]
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I smoke dope, I get antisocial, and stupid. There is no enlightenment through marijuana, just the inability to reason adequately.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-12-06 14:28 [#01417465]
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see I don't have any problems with it at all, apart from the need to eat anything that moves but that's just part of the fun =o)
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-12-06 14:32 [#01417468]
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pot made me so unbelievably advanced that the gravity of all the intelligence caused my brain to imploded.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-12-06 14:33 [#01417470]
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you're eating stuff that's still moving!?!
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Wave_Existence
from alpha and omega on 2004-12-06 14:35 [#01417471]
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weed is bad for you, no matter how good you may think it is.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-12-06 14:38 [#01417474]
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nah.... I can never be arsed to chase it
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-12-06 14:38 [#01417475]
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There is enlightenment to a certain extent, but you can obviously only go so far before the road just ends. After a certain point you're just smoking for the physical effects and possibly some enhanced creativity or to just pass the time due to boredom...
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-12-06 17:06 [#01417704]
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How do you know? Why is it inherently bad?
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-12-06 17:42 [#01417733]
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that's it. there is an enhancement that m can give you.. but it isn't a continual thing.. it doesn't improve from there and you're not going to become more and more insightful or enlightened through continued use. to say there are no positive effects intellectually is just wrong. people who say that are either drug war types or smokers who are apologizing for once finding themselves to be more intelligent than they are..
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2004-12-06 23:54 [#01417896]
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heh from what it seems ive read so far (which isnt too far, but im too lazy) im one of the few current stoners here. i havent not smoked for 24 hours in something around 3 mothns, before that 3 days of sobriety it was another like..... 4 or 5 months. first:
I've never thought of cannabis as a social drug.. well for me at least that is hugely bizzarre to me. bud is probably the most social drug of all. there is nothing better feeling to me than to sit back with friends, smoke some fatties, and just chat, listen to music or watch a movie. here at uc santa cruz, probably the epitome of a drug college, smoking weed is what ties me and all my friends together. if it wasnt to ganj, most of us probably wouldnt hang out, but thanks to that wonderful plant, we all enjoy eachother's company and all that.
on the subject of the fear: paranoia from ganj (which, from my understanding, is what you guys are defining the fear as) all has to do with one thing: setting. if youre standing smoking a bowl all sketch like in a parking lot with some weirdos, yeah, you can get a bit scared and introverted. it happens to the best of us. but i have made myself a rule that if i ever feel the slightest bit uncomfortable in a session i get out of there. i havent had any kind of fear or anxiety while smoking weed probably since last 4-20 when i was being all sketch in a buddy's dorm room. um im not sure where im going with all this, but im gonna end it here, cuz ive gotta go take a few resin hits and study some more!
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vacant
from NYC (United States) on 2004-12-07 00:19 [#01417898]
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the next person who says the word sketch is getting a mailbomb from me
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vacant
from NYC (United States) on 2004-12-07 00:19 [#01417899]
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assuming they;re not talking about drawings
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-12-07 00:21 [#01417900]
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sketchy
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-12-07 05:42 [#01417983]
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Kids in the Hall is the best sketch comedy ever.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-12-07 08:52 [#01418177]
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Similarly, there was a dutch study that concluded that your avatar can directly facilitate psychosis and schizophrenia, especially on impressionable Zephyr Twins.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-12-07 09:00 [#01418188]
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seriously though, I had no idea there were this many people who can not enjoy mary jane. Forgive me if this sounds pretentious, but I feel sorry for all of you. I for one have been studying relentlessly for the past week (for finals) and am done today. I will get high, then I will laugh for hours with my two best friends (my roomates), play copious amounts of music with them, and may even play some video games. Should you all feel the need to continue hating weed, please donate your supply to me @:
Zephyr Twin likes weed but you all hate it 1374 Northgate Circle Apt 200 Oviedo, FL 32765
thanks, it's greatly appreciated.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-12-07 09:26 [#01418206]
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I am crushing your head
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-12-08 10:16 [#01419099]
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Heh, but my favorite was always the chicken lady. "Gotta get laid, gotta get laid"
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