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theo himself
from +- on 2004-11-16 05:58 [#01396745]
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On Air America Radio a few months ago I heard someone describing some syndrome/disease that is the result, typically, of years of continuous alcohol use/abuse and cocaine abuse, the symptoms of which are excessive blinking, inability to focus attention and finish sentences/complete thoughts etc, memory deficiencies, and visible lesions that appear on the face from time to time. Remember when Bush choked on a pretzel, passed out and slammed his face on a table; then got into that bike accident; then tripped another time; and other instances (avoidable ones for most adults) that all produced small lesions on his face. I don't remember the name of the disease/syndrome or the doctor it was named after.. but I'm interested in researching this - it seems like he exhibits most if not all of the symptoms described on the broadcast I heard..
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-11-16 06:22 [#01396754]
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severe brain damage?
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vacant
from NYC (United States) on 2004-11-16 07:00 [#01396771]
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beautiful muckraking, that. i'm glad this is all the left has to go on these days.
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zero-cool
on 2004-11-16 07:03 [#01396773]
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if i was an american i wouldn't want that ape for a president, COCAINE
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-16 07:08 [#01396776]
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oh look. a little friend for elusive and childrentalking.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-11-16 08:42 [#01396834]
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Pre-senile dementia.
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vacant
from NYC (United States) on 2004-11-16 09:06 [#01396848]
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well is there anything worthwhile about this? let's say this is a real disease and he has it. so what?
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stilaktive
from a place on 2004-11-16 09:11 [#01396850]
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it means america is prone to more attacks. and thers nothing you can do about it.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-11-16 09:15 [#01396854]
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perhaps it is meant as a topic of discussion and the weight of it is largely irrelevant? because i find it interesting that it's possibly true, but don't think this is going to be a fact that causes him any trouble.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-11-16 09:33 [#01396869]
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yeah i've read about this and it certainly looks to be
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gnocelot
from Greifswald (Germany) on 2004-11-16 09:42 [#01396876]
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It would mean that, in a time when the distribution of power in the US is severely unbalanced in favour of the executive branch, the chief of the executive is deranged. Does that sound good to you?
As for the "if that's the only thing critics can come up with..." argument, that might be a point if it was, uh, at all true. By which I mean that it isn't.
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nacmat
on 2004-11-16 09:48 [#01396883]
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who cares if he was an alcoholic and coicanoman... if he was a good president I wouldnt fucking care... but he is a fucking murderer and a sad hypocrite puritan and I still dont fucking care if he has a disease or not... please why doesnt he leave?????
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ngenstudios
from United States on 2004-11-17 08:47 [#01397939]
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Air America is still going? Damn, this country is more screwed than I thought.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-11-17 08:51 [#01397943]
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i guess we can hope for his death, hehe
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-11-17 08:54 [#01397948]
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who cares? how will this effect your life?
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mrgypsum
on 2004-11-17 08:56 [#01397950]
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the only way this affects my life is: i just read it here, but have not heard about it anywhere else, after reading it, i read the rest of the thread - therefore i wanted to chime in with my two cents - but after i posted, it ceased to have anymore affect on my life.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-11-17 09:07 [#01397960]
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you mean that if there's one left-wing radio station in existence, america can't take it? the most powerful country in the world can't handle voices of dissent? but it's fine for all the other "news" channels to be be right-wing propaganda vehicles? is that what you're trying to say?
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mrgypsum
on 2004-11-17 09:09 [#01397965]
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:) i pictured you in a calm state of mind when you posted this
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-17 09:10 [#01397967]
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hopefully not.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-11-17 15:08 [#01398345]
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i heard about this too, a few months ago, when some lady released a book on the effects of cocaine/alcohol abuse and had an allusion to the apparant effects on Bushie!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-11-17 15:19 [#01398361]
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her name was Katherine Van Wormer and here is the article she wrote if you are interested
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-11-17 20:59 [#01398739]
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good look evolume
the people who are asking about the relevance of this are missing something here. and if you don't care, why post a message about it and why I care?
you don't think it's at all pathetic that the entire country believes everything they're told and no one is questioning the media? you'd think they'd have a difficult time with a 12 year old w/ shitty diapers playing appointed president/speech reader for the white house.. but no.. people take the full cock and the shot down the throat and vote for more. they came up with a story about him knocking himself unconscious after choking on a pretzel to make him look GOOD!
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-11-17 21:01 [#01398742]
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he's also a walking metaphor for our horrible failure of a drug policy.. which is to arrest and not treat it. punish it and not rehabilitate it. he is an arrested, not treated alcoholic and drug addict. and that is not a positive.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-11-17 21:26 [#01398759]
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well, the problem is that although it may be likely that all of this is true, it's really all circumstantial evidence. it hasn't been proven.
even as pure speculation - is having a president who is an alcoholic and/or drug addict worse than one who was so senile that he spent his whole presidency napping and making jokes about nuclear war?
maybe this isn't that relevent. i think the things that he has done for sure are much, much more damning. repeatedly lying to americans, invading a country that posed no threat to our safety, leading to the slaughter of thousands of innocent civilians and our own soldiers, destabilizing it and pimping it to corporations, installing a puppet government that will inevitably collapse or corrupt, etc (and the iraq conflict is just one travesty he's committed out of many) - all of that strikes me as much worse than his potential vices. he's unfit to lead regardless of whatever he does or does not snort up his nose.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-11-17 21:43 [#01398769]
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and as for that article, i disagree with her analysis. i don't believe the premise that the wording of his speeches is particularly related to his state of mind.
the words he uses and repeats as mantras are clearly designed by speech writers to be propaganda buzzwords. they repeat them over and over in a subtle form of brainwash. it's the same thing advertisers do - they repeat their jingle or slogan over and over to sell their products, and it becomes engrained in the subconcious of the consumer. "just do it", "i'm lovin it", "evil doers", "axis of evil". pure propaganda.
there's no reason to stretch and work to connect the dots as Wormer does - the truth is obvious and much more sinister than that. but i do like her theory that he's a dry drunk.
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-11-17 21:44 [#01398770]
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synthesis.
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ngenstudios
from United States on 2004-11-19 10:11 [#01399910]
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Wow, you're right about the right wing media. CBS, CNN, NBC, PBS and ABC are so right wing it hurts. I swear one time they might have said 1 positive thing about Bush once about 3 years ago, damn right wings!
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