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A FLORIDA SCIENTIST has apparently wired up bits of a rat's brain and used them to fly a plane simulator in a breakthrough for Darwinian theory. According to Atlanta news outfit CNN, Thomas DeMarse, professor of biomedical engineering at the University of Florida, grew the bio computer from 25,000 neurons extracted from a rat's brain and arranged over a grid of 60 electrodes in a Petri dish. Then the brain cells reconnected themselves, forming microscopic interconnections. When linked up to an F-22 jet flight simulator, the brain and the simulator established a two-way connection similar to how neurons receive and interpret signals from each other to control our bodies. Gradually the brain learnt to control the flight of the plane based on the information it received about flight conditions. |
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:o |
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next stop... CYBORG CITY !!! |
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I bet it tried to fly to the moon!!!!! But seriously, that's amazing. |
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Woah. Holy shit. |
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splendid. |
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holy crripples |
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I don't get how the brain just learned how to fly the plain. You would need to teach it a language in order to explain how the plane works. |
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I mean, if they figured out how to attach each control parameter of the plane to a neural impulse or whatnot, you would then need logic to know that going straight down towards the ground below is BAD. And staying level is GOOD. |
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maybe they took a whip and just whacked it when it crashed |
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jaysus. |
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it prolly just adapted to react to the impulses they were feeding it. |
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React how? |
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i dunno... they feed it an impulse that's too strong, it reacts by sending an impulse which turns the plane right. they feed it the opposite impulse stronger and stronger until it reacts and fires the opposite impulse, which steers the plane left. but, i dunno, i could be completely wrong. |
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That kinda does nothing though. That same thing can be done via computer. |
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i highly doubt the cells knew they were actually steering a plane |
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word up on that! |
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yeah, i agree. it's just the fact that they were using living tissue that's the breakthrough. i suppose. |
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That is pretty huge, but tiny in the scheme of things. Its like pushing a broken down car a few feet and saying you've got it running. Those articles are a little misleading. |
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i don't even know what i'm talking about. they could very well be much more advanced than what i said. |
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I think what you said is probably right. |
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word on dat shit nigga |
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Oh and for the record.... what the fuck kind of tabs did these motherfuckers do to come up with this? "Hey marty, grab that brain.... put it in this dish here. I am going to train it to fly a F-22 jet flight simulator!!!1one" |
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Shug is a fucker |
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hahaah! you made him an avatar!! |
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Wrong. He made me make him an avatar. What a fucker. |
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that fuck!!! *kicks shug |
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Doooont kick him! Shit man... I never seen you or spoken to you before.... Wha? Oh hey shug. That guy with the double mohawk avatar? I dont know him. |
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Dear shug, Your fatass needs to lose weight. For your health and for your gangbanging family. Signed Epohs |
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It helps him smash things. |
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ahahha!! Lookin like the "thing" from fantastic four!!! Its clobberin time |
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um, my understanding of it is -- the neurons actually configured themselves and create connections as they learned this task. me and my friend were also wondering how they would give the cells negative feedback, but it seems plausible that they would simply feed it some uncomfortably high frequency it's interesting to me because it shows how a brain basically adapts to a completely artificial environment. it's not entirely unreasonable to think that this brain 'sees' the world, in the sense that it has an idea of its environment based on electronic feeds -- which is basically how we operate -- we don't 'see' the world so much as construct an idea of it based on electronic impulses through our eyes and ears etc anyhow, it just shows how amorphous and shapeable brains (and by extension, our consciousness) are -- the brain just forms some sort of intelligent, sensible reaction to whatever environment it is presented with, and this 'consciousness' (i don't think these rat cells are conscious, but by extension) is itself articial.. very terrifying, imo |
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wow. thats amazing the way i guess it works, is that the program has a desired outcome, and that the neural interface goes about achieving that outcome given a set of conditions. rather than say there being an undesirable outcome in the program that 'punishes' the interface. |
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so the neural interface is perhaps not unlike a highly sophisicated calculator |
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this is bad. |
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and I thought opening a call center in india was a threat to my job O_o |
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mix these two inventions together, and we are royally fucked for reals! |
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I tried this before but it didn't work like this |
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more rodents need to make idm, and this is the best step in that direction. |
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why? i think its great personally. smaller computers, more understanding of how we learn. |
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