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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-11-03 20:51 [#01382550]
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Anyone, educated, please enduldge me (because I've only taken a few marketing, economics, etc.. micro and macro) courses.
I am curious, to any minor or major full-time economic
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-11-03 20:51 [#01382552]
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please tell me how Bush has played a part in this "up swing" low swing, and the big bust of the dot.com boom.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-11-03 20:55 [#01382573]
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look an kokroach!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-11-03 20:56 [#01382583]
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"up swing" low swing - don't know what this is supposed to mean.
big bust of the dot.com boom - he did inherit this, but it wasn't clinton's fault either. it was just the natural order of the stock market. when it keeps getting bigger and bigger, it eventually has to deflate or explode.
on the other hand, bush's policies have had a tremendous effect on the economy. it's gotten much better for the rich and large corporations which are de-regulated and outsourced and on corporate welfare, while everyone else has had significant tax burdens and a terrible job market.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-11-03 20:56 [#01382590]
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he has given lots of tax incentives to small businesses
he gave me and my wife each $400 last year or at least he prosed it
i thnk george bush frequents here often :)
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sons of august
from the sacred cycles on 2004-11-03 20:57 [#01382597]
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tax prostitution, it's the only way
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-11-03 20:58 [#01382598]
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r40f, and what about small comapnies, ones i can PERSONALLY VOUCH FOR.
Eh?
"he did inherit this, but it wasn't clinton's fault either. it was just the natural order of the stock market. when it keeps getting bigger and bigger, it eventually has to deflate or explode.
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yes, this is what I'm trying to get people to understand, finally!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-11-03 21:00 [#01382604]
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i didn't say anything about small businesses because i wasn't aware of how he has changed them. however, i would definitely conclude that overall he has greatly worsened the economy. how about the deficit? it's gotten much, much worse.
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sons of august
from the sacred cycles on 2004-11-03 21:02 [#01382612]
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why is it called the stock market, you get rotten food thrown at you?
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-03 21:14 [#01382649]
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bush played no role in the dot com boom/bust that i know of. he inherited the economy just as it was deflating, then 9/11 knocked the wind completely out of it.
then he proceeded to cut taxes, and vastly increase government spending. this has used up our budget surplus, and send us into a huge deficit. the only section of the job market that has significantly increased is government jobs. bush created the rather large government bureau of homeland security. all of those people recieve a paycheck from the governement. the government recieves it's money from our taxes. bush has also increased military spending to levels above where they were before clinton reduced them.
this has shifted money out of the social security stockpile, education, and funding for the arts, and also forced the gov't to borrow from the national reserve. creating the deficit that we see today.
the reason the deficit is important is that once we run a large enough deficit for long enough, the country that we owe money and goods will decide that we no longer are producing enough to back our currency. at this point, the dollar will begin to sell on international markets for less than it is actually worth because people will no longer want the dollar. that means, america will need to spend more to buy the same amount of goods, further devaluing the dollar. inflation will skyrocket overnight, the dollar will become worthless, and goods in america will become too expensive for anyone to afford.
look to argentina as a good example of what is going to happen to us.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-03 21:16 [#01382655]
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the countries that we owe money and goods to will decide that we are no longer are producing enough to back our currency.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-11-03 21:37 [#01382711]
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but we are starting to tariff those? no?
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-11-03 21:39 [#01382714]
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-04 15:35 [#01383617]
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tariffs are bad economics
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ChildrenTalking
from United States on 2004-11-04 15:40 [#01383624]
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Bush On Jobs
Colmar, PA: Sept. 9, 2004
Bush: Our country has now seen 12 straight months of job gains. Over the past year, we've added 1.7 million jobs. That is more than Germany, Japan, Great Britain, Canada and France combined. (Applause.) Unemployment is down to 5.4 percent. That is nearly a full point below the rate in the summer of 2003, and it is below the average of the 1970s, the 1980s and the 1990s. (Applause.)
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-11-04 15:52 [#01383643]
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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ChildrenTalking
from United States on 2004-11-04 15:58 [#01383655]
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hahahah right
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-11-04 16:06 [#01383662]
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!! :)
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-11-04 16:23 [#01383679]
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wow, that's so great that he has gotten back the jobs he lost in the first place! LAZY_TITLE
unemployment:
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-11-04 16:34 [#01383691]
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zing!
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-11-04 16:59 [#01383709]
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r40f have you ever taken an economics course?
there are ups and downs the president doesn'nt control.
your earlier post contradicts your comment "wow, that's so great that he has gotten back the jobs he
lost in the first place!"
(earlier in this thrad) "big bust of the dot.com boom - he did inherit this, but it wasn't clinton's fault either. it was just the natural order of the stock market. when it keeps getting bigger and bigger, it eventually has to deflate or explode.
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well?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-11-04 18:07 [#01383810]
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yes, i have. i am aware there are certain things the president doesn't control.
but you want it both ways - you want to say that everything good is because of bush and everything bad isn't. unemployment and the stock market are two different things, even though they are related. what i was pointing out was that just because bush takes credit for creating new jobs does not make it true.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-11-05 16:12 [#01385142]
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Acknowledged.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-11-05 16:16 [#01385149]
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Captain.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-05 16:19 [#01385152]
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Engage.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-11-05 16:24 [#01385155]
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Mr. Zulu?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-11-05 16:27 [#01385159]
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Yes, Captain?
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-11-05 16:31 [#01385164]
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warp-speed, mr zulu.
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