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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-11-03 14:09 [#01381687]
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I was wondering if someone could dlear this up for me. I am a bit confused. I have heard that he might impose a draft. But i have seen an interview where he said he wouldnt.
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from So.Flo on 2004-11-03 14:11 [#01381689]
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It's possible but thats not gonna happen.
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from So.Flo on 2004-11-03 14:12 [#01381690]
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Isn't it you who wanted to not mention Bush anymore---you hypocrite!! ok ok you wrote this before you wrote that other thread--whatever...g on wit your bad self!
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2004-11-03 14:13 [#01381692]
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some people are absolutely sure he will. I don't know. I do know he talked with president canada about not letting any kids in.
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ChildrenTalking
from United States on 2004-11-03 14:14 [#01381696]
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Bush kept repeating it over and over during the first debate that he will not reinstitute the draft. he added that the volunteer draft is quite functional, keeping the flow of military quantity stable when needed.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-03 14:15 [#01381698]
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it's not gonna happen.
the military neither needs, nor wants a shitload of kids that don't want to be there. our military has become a very technical job. even ground soldiers have to go through extensive training. the days of drafting a kid, handing him a gun, and sending him into the battlezone are over. a draft isn't needed anymore.
that's just a scare tactic that was used by both sides during the election.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-11-03 14:15 [#01381699]
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Damn dana.
:/
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from So.Flo on 2004-11-03 14:18 [#01381703]
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I wub you !!
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ChildrenTalking
from United States on 2004-11-03 14:19 [#01381705]
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final debate not first
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-11-03 14:21 [#01381708]
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check congress' website.. the proposed date for the conscription is/was june 15, 2005
it is rediculously unrealistic to think that this overstretched military force can stand the minimum 4 more years of occupation without reaching out beyond its volunteers.
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-11-03 14:26 [#01381720]
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The Service act of 2003's title is: "To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes." - congress.gov
http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2004-11-03 14:32 [#01381735]
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haha, if that happens there will be riots most definately
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-03 14:39 [#01381746]
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that's not a draft. that's required military service such as israel has.
and, it won't be the enrollment that crumples our ability to stay engaged in our millitary campaigns, it'll be the economy.
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-11-03 14:46 [#01381752]
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that's DEFINATELY not true. he doesn't give half a fuck if there's available money to pay for his war.. he spent hundreds of billions without taxing those most capable of paying for it. spending w/o taxing.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-03 14:47 [#01381755]
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we've got the manpower to run these wars if we absolutely need to. the average duration of service for an american soldier during WWII was 33 months. today, if we've got a soldier deployed for 18 months they are considered very over deployed.
if the need arises, we'll extend tours of duty. as unpopular as it would be, it'd be much more popular than a draft.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-03 14:50 [#01381766]
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it doesn't matter what bush wants. if he runs the deficit up to mind bendingly high levels, the dollar will become worthless on international markets, people will dump their dollars overnight, and our economy will tank. game over.
he has to know that. if he doesn't, who cares, it's out of his hands.
no money = no bullets & no food for soldiers = no war
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-11-03 14:51 [#01381769]
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they've already started doing that.. they started that at the end of last year.. and the truth is we dont' have the manpower to handle this war and the hundreds of other campaigns we're running all over the world for 5 more years .. esp. w/ afghanistan and whatever country he invades next
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-11-03 14:53 [#01381776]
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dude, he's doing all of that.
they're not even paying for armor for the troops and their humvees are not reinforced adequately for combat situations. troops have to have their parents buy them the armor they need over the internets!
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-03 14:54 [#01381780]
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they're extending tours; yes. and they will continue to extend them.
any politician knows that it is political suicide to instate a draft, and what's a politician's #1 concern? his/her job.
not to mention, i really and truly don't believe that a draft would be very helpful in today's army. if things get so bad that the american army needs massive quantities of untrained soldiers running around on the battlefield, then things have gotten so bad that humanity only has a few days left anyway, so it's not really that important.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-11-03 14:55 [#01381783]
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i haven't registered for selective service....
oh wait, that's illegal.
i mean, draft draft draft.
and by draft, i mean not ME.
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-11-03 14:58 [#01381794]
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well, the thing is, the neo-con administration no longer has to play it safe and do the minimal pandering or show the minimal restraint that they had to do in an election year.. it's carte blanche for real now ..they dont have to worry about losing any office that is up to the people to decide/choose.. this is like lbj/nixon all over again.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-03 14:59 [#01381796]
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yeah. this is scary times indeed. i won't argue there.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-11-03 15:02 [#01381801]
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i'm so scared i can hardly contain myself. OH GODDDDDDDD!!!!!! *runs to toilet*
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-11-03 15:04 [#01381807]
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I don't think that's fear, guy.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-11-03 15:57 [#01381897]
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someone needs to kill Bush... we should organize an Xltronic assassination!
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-03 15:59 [#01381902]
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eep!
*runs*
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-11-03 16:26 [#01381938]
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I could 311 you and get you jailed for that, you know..
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2004-11-03 17:17 [#01381984]
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Republican Senetor proposes reinstating the draft, Selective Service positions vacant since the 70's being filled, republicans win the senate/ house, pending expansion of war into iran/syria, however, bush said we wouldnt during a debate.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-11-03 18:17 [#01382108]
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hmmm, yeah, FBI agents will probably come take me away now...
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-03 23:40 [#01382842]
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ah ha ha ha
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-03 23:44 [#01382843]
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Is not registering for selective service one of those hardly enforced "illegal" things? I'm pretty sure I registered because I applied for a government job once and had to. If I wanted to be president, I would just do whatever I could to get in there and then once I was in just do whatever the hell I want, not worrying about being reelected and just accepting serving only one term, but doing whatever I want during that term.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-11-04 00:27 [#01382851]
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so long as the economy stays shit, there will be plenty of poor people who will be more than willing to join the army because they don't really have any other decent employment opportunites... that and the fact that all they really need is another attack on american soil to spur on another massive flow of reactionary volunteers...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-11-04 06:37 [#01382938]
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You aren't going to live much longer. The CIA and FBI have advanced google x 1,000,000 search engines designed to pin down people like you. I will have NO part of this.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-11-04 15:05 [#01383593]
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bush has a history of repeating things that turn out to be false.
i don't blame anybody for not trusting him on this issue.
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ChildrenTalking
from United States on 2004-11-04 15:33 [#01383614]
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No Draft means No Draft (http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3675)
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-11-04 15:52 [#01383644]
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-11-04 15:55 [#01383648]
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have you ever considered the possibility that he has been lying?
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OK
on 2004-11-04 17:44 [#01383789]
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"Our all-volunteer army will remain an all-volunteer army," Bush began, to cheers from supporters here in Florida...
"My opponent seems to be willing to say almost anything he thinks will benefit him politically," he said. "After standing on the stage, after the debates, I made it very plain we will not have an all-volunteer army."
"And yet this week..." he continued, before suddenly realizing the gaffe and shouting: "We will have an all-volunteer army."
"Let me restate that: We will not have a draft. No matter what my opponent tries to tell people and scare them, we will have an all-volunteer army," promised the president, who is known for frequent verbal stumbles.
that's george bush at a spech in daytona beach.
source
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OK
on 2004-11-04 17:44 [#01383792]
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freudian slip?
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-11-04 17:58 [#01383802]
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i think you guys are overreacting... he does not need a draft to feed the war machine... there are plenty of young americans who, for one reason or another, are willing to go fight...
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ChildrenTalking
from United States on 2004-11-04 18:03 [#01383805]
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you do realize many of those volunteers are immigrants from all across the world. who enlist so they can obtain gov't benefits for their service in the arm forces.
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hobbes
from age on 2004-11-04 18:04 [#01383807]
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americans.
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AphexTwin11
from OOOOOO (United States) on 2004-11-04 18:17 [#01383829]
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lets all argue over it (P$, i l0\/3 Th3 +H@D &VAtaR$)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-11-04 18:19 [#01383838]
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umm, no i didn't... i'm a little confused about you e-tone though... well no matter...
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-11-05 01:03 [#01384083]
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I think we should all prepare for the 4 scariest years we have ever known.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2004-11-05 04:22 [#01384106]
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america needs war to work. anyway dont start picking on dubai and ill love you forever.
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