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offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2004-11-03 13:55 [#01381665]
Points: 11920 Status: Regular



Myself and a good number of Americans had a morsel of faith
that Bush would be ejected from office today, but he was
not.

I plead to all of you from other countries; we tried. We
know what you think about him. We feel the same way, and
because he represents us globally we want him gone more than
you do.

You cannot hold it against all of America for Bush's
re-election. Our country is pretty much divided halfway. We
tried to get him out of there but we couldn't. We tried for
us, we tried for you, and we failed. The only light shun:
the success of an organized democratic process. It's good
that it works.

Please be patient through these next 4 years. Bush will do
alot of stupid things. He will make many bad choices that
may affect you. He will make many more that will affect us.
Please just be patient. We will try our best through
protesting, making ourselves heard, and voicing. You should
do this too.

Just today Bush said; "To all of those who voted for my
opponent, I will do everything to regain your trust." And
that is just simply impossible. For him to regain our trust
he would have to resign from office. I will be 24 (I am 19
now) when Bush's second term has ended. I formally ask for
your patience, your tolerance, and your help. We tried to
get him out but we did not try hard enough. Please do not
invest your dislikes in all of America. Blame the republican
party, blame the republican figure-heads that our media
portrays and glorifies, and blame the apathetic, idiotic,
spoiled youth who simply do not care one way or another.
None of these people know what they are doing. Alot of them
are good people, but they are all mislead. Do not throw the
blanket over all of America - in doing that you end up
blaming your own colleagues and friends.


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2004-11-03 14:00 [#01381671]
Points: 4630 Status: Lurker | Followup to cygnus: #01381665



yeah i know. it's hard though. i'd so much want them being
taught a lesson, they should themselves feel the violence
they spread via israel and in iraq. it's easy to hate a
country but it doesnt really make much sense.
bah whatever.


 

offline Iroel from Pisa (Italy) on 2004-11-03 14:02 [#01381674]
Points: 1129 Status: Regular



:)


 

offline happy cycling from berlin on 2004-11-03 14:03 [#01381675]
Points: 2786 Status: Regular



what violence are they spreading via israel, exactly?


 

offline Iroel from Pisa (Italy) on 2004-11-03 14:07 [#01381680]
Points: 1129 Status: Regular



http://www.palestinemonitor.org/new_web/home.htm

maybe it's propaganda maybe it is not...


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-11-03 14:08 [#01381682]
Points: 27325 Status: Lurker



If he proposes a draft i am the fuck out of here.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-11-03 14:09 [#01381684]
Points: 8876 Status: Lurker



Aphex Twin


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2004-11-03 14:10 [#01381688]
Points: 11920 Status: Regular | Followup to Cheffe1979: #01381671



There inlies the error; "they themselves should feel the
violence they spread via israel and in iraq."

Hundreds of thousands of Americans do not support any of
that violence. They do not support the war in Iraq. They do
not support the U.S. supported Israeli tyrrany over
palestine. They do not think that "a safe Iraq will help
secure Israel"

Etc.

There are people who feel as you do, and stronger, living on
these shores. It would be in everybody's interest to support
them. We are your voice here.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2004-11-03 14:13 [#01381693]
Points: 11920 Status: Regular | Followup to virginpusher: #01381682



For your own safety, you should refrain from posting
statements like that on public forums.


 

offline uzim on 2004-11-03 14:16 [#01381701]
Points: 17716 Status: Lurker



i feel more surprised and sorry for the USA inhabitants who
voted Kerry than anything else... ' _'

now of course USA gets a badder image with this result, it's
normal. but of course you can't blame all USA inhabitants
for this individually, it would be stupid. just don't
confuse the country/masses and the individuals...

the latest elections in France were quite terrible too (even
though not as grievous - we didn't get war nor anything like
that, thanksfully!!) - now i have a bad image of the french
population in general, but i don't feel guilty. i couldn't
do anything, i didn't have the age to vote. there is no
reason for me to be guilty.

but it's frustrating to know that you're powerless, that the
only thing you can do is nothing but a drop in the ocean.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2004-11-03 14:25 [#01381716]
Points: 11920 Status: Regular | Followup to uzim: #01381701



That is an error. We are not powerless. One individual can
make a drastic amont of change, many individuals can
multiply that force and apply it in circumstances and alter
outcomes very effectively. One only needs to look at history
and see the outcomes of circumstances that one man has
altered all by himself.

One also only needs to observe how one small, insignificant,
typical pebble dropped into a pond - will cause a ripple
throughout the entire pond, altering the status of the pond
all by itself - and creating a wavelength of motion relative
to itself.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2004-11-03 14:26 [#01381721]
Points: 3772 Status: Lurker



you clever people of america have all my respect and i'll
dedicate you an album when i'm famous!


 

offline yann_g from now on 2004-11-03 14:29 [#01381728]
Points: 3772 Status: Lurker | Followup to uzim: #01381701



i feel more surprised and sorry for the USA inhabitants
who
voted Kerry than anything else... ' _'

now of course USA gets a badder image with this result, it's

normal. but of course you can't blame all USA inhabitants
for this individually, it would be stupid. just don't
confuse the country/masses and the individuals...

the latest elections in France were quite terrible too (even

though not as grievous - we didn't get war nor anything like

that, thanksfully!!) - now i have a bad image of the french

population in general, but i don't feel guilty. i couldn't
do anything, i didn't have the age to vote. there is no
reason for me to be guilty.

but it's frustrating to know that you're powerless, that the

only thing you can do is nothing but a drop in the
ocean.


i had to vote for that sonofabitch chirac! worst vote ever,
but had no real choice.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2004-11-03 14:34 [#01381738]
Points: 9958 Status: Lurker



In a democratic system, the only people who truly act as
memebers of that democracy are the ones that vote. The rest
allow their government to be thrown upon them.
Unfortunately, as social creatures, the social group that is
america has spoken, and that social group seems to like
bush.

Eventually, all systems evolve into entrophy. Personally, I
believe this is a system wherein change must replace static,
and bush seems to be just the right catalyst to throw the
united states from a comfortable seat with cnn on the tube,
to a place where chaos and change is absolute and
unrepentant.

Such is the nature of existance, I can only believe this as
being a good thing. Although, bush is a scary psychopath
that should be eating with a cork on his fork.


 

offline uzim on 2004-11-03 14:37 [#01381743]
Points: 17716 Status: Lurker | Followup to cygnus: #01381716



one individual making a drastic amount of change is an
exceptional case really... and even people who "rippled the
pond" a lot, like Michael Moore, couldn't prevent Bush from
being re-elected.

we aren't all and totally powerless, but...
*shrugs* i'm tempted to say, almost.

even if we do have a 0.000001% chance to change the world
doesn't mean we will catch it.

we can do what we can, we must do what we can, but we
shouldn't hope for too much.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-11-03 17:48 [#01382040]
Points: 8469 Status: Regular



okay.


 


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