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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-10-22 11:53 [#01368990]
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Its about one year ago he died (21 oct 2003) and nobody have solved if he took hes own life or got killed.
Before he died he was recording an new album called - From a Basement on the Hill,that been realesed after his death reacently this year.
Please discuss Ellioth Smith
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 11:57 [#01368998]
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right.
um..
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-10-22 11:59 [#01369001]
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He took his own life, but it'll be debated forever, even if we found some film of it. ''Photoshopped!''.
Basment is a pretty good album, it's too bad he STABBED HIMSELF IN THE HEART. I do think his legacy is pretty accurate, though... he had pretty much levelled out and showed us what he could do, but it's still a shame that he couldn't do more of that.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-10-22 12:01 [#01369009]
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how do you know he took his own life
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-22 12:03 [#01369012]
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kirk cameron told us.
did you miss the seminar?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 12:05 [#01369014]
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..and God told him.
so you know he's fucking right.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-22 12:09 [#01369019]
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I haven't heard the new record. I haven't really liked any of his bigger label albums but Im sure Ill get round to this one.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-10-22 12:09 [#01369020]
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crrazy
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-10-22 12:09 [#01369021]
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I really like Elliott Smith especially the untitled album and Either/Or because I haven't heard the other albums ha ha.
Personally, I think he died.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 12:13 [#01369028]
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I like his first two albums very muchly, "roman candle" and the untitled one - almost completely acoustic, I like that more than when he plays with a complete band.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-10-22 12:17 [#01369038]
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mine favourite albums is Either,Or but i only have heard that album and the new album
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-10-22 12:20 [#01369041]
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xo
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-10-22 12:23 [#01369043]
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I dunno. I just know, I feel it in my heart (!). I trust in criminal investigators, I guess. They've got all kinds of gadgets and tricks and thingamabobs, and if that broad really had something to do with it, chances are, they'd know. The odds are heavily stacked against the conspiracy theories.
The guy was a sad panda, when I heard it, it seemed natural.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 12:31 [#01369050]
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the police consists of human beings.
you would be surprised how many (dumb) mistakes are made.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-10-22 12:32 [#01369054]
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yeah he sounds sad but it can also be artistic grate fullness
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-10-22 12:35 [#01369059]
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I'm not saying they're faultless, but with today's advances in technology, the chances that he WAS murdered and they're wrong are exceedingly small. There's zero good evidence to suggest otherwise, and THEY know a lot more of the story than we do. I'll even bet my tentacles on this.
Heh, I had to delete and repost this as well. Jeepers creepers.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-10-22 12:43 [#01369074]
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well cheers to him anyway
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-10-22 12:54 [#01369094]
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stabbing yourself in the heart is a fucking hard core way to die.
respect!
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-10-22 13:05 [#01369119]
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TWICE in the heart.
If i was around 20% more angsty, i would probably weep over a picture of him at night whilst writing terrible, terrible poetry.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-10-22 13:10 [#01369125]
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yeah.Most of my faovourite artist have commited suicide like Joy Division singer Ian Curtis or Nick drake(and whos story is like Elliott Smith they arent sure by the death reason)and The Sound lead artist who produced most of there stuff called Adrian Borland
While engaged in recording sessions for another solo record, the depression-prone Borland succumbed to nagging mental illness by throwing himself underneath a train on April 26, 1999. In a letter to his fans written only a month prior, Borland exuded enthusiasm in his new efforts, making his passing all the more sad.
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-10-22 13:17 [#01369141]
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i remember speaking to medschool friends about this back when it happened and they confirmed it would be extremely painful -- basically an instant, massive heart attack.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-10-22 13:20 [#01369150]
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Yikes. I can't imagine stabbing yourself in the heart would be anything less than painful though.
Also, even having heard very little of elliot smith's music, it's sad and strange that most of this thread is about how he killed himself.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-10-22 13:24 [#01369161]
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your right but hes grate anyway
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optimus prime
on 2004-10-22 13:24 [#01369162]
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my favourite album is xo. i loved figure 8, then hated it, and now i love it again. of course i'm also in love with everything else he did.
i'm picking up the new album in about an hour.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-10-22 13:37 [#01369189]
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mine favourite album is Either,Or and Xo And i ve heard hes last album and still rate this albums the best
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2004-10-22 16:04 [#01369384]
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I remember when i first heard of his death on the radio. They anounced his death and then played the incredibly beautifull "Angeles". I was at work and i had to fight back my tears. What a crappy day it was...
I think he was murdered . Article
"several aspects of the circumstances (as are known at this time) are atypical of suicide and raise the possibility of homicide. These include the absence of hesitation wounds, stabbing through clothing, and the presence of small incised wounds on the right arm and left hand (possible defensive wounds)."
Coroner’s investigators also raised questions about the actions of Chiba, and why she removed the knife. "Detectives believe that this death is possibly suspicious, however, the circumstances are unclear at this time," according to the report.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-22 16:05 [#01369388]
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Either/Or is the way to go. I love the lo-fi-ness of it all.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-22 16:10 [#01369389]
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Man, Angeles is such a sad song.
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staplemouth
on 2004-10-22 16:50 [#01369418]
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i really love Elliot Smith's work, mostly his acoustic tracks rather than the ones with a full band (as someone said allready). I like the way they are recorded too.
really quite beautiful
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 18:34 [#01369478]
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at last!
someone who agrees with me.
yes, their lo-finess is quite delicious.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-10-22 18:51 [#01369482]
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Acoustic? Lo-fi? And stuff? Do you like jeffrey lewis? Because he is Proper Great. I am illegally hosting a track by him here. It is not the one called "pandas.wav".
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optimus prime
on 2004-10-22 22:21 [#01369537]
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from a basement on the hill is hands down his best album. beautiful and meaningful and low fi low fiw erwoitueioawugs low fi
i hate qrter and his pretentious biases.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-10-22 22:23 [#01369539]
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did you read his posts?
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optimus prime
on 2004-10-22 22:32 [#01369540]
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yes i did.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-10-22 22:36 [#01369543]
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i'm sorry.
i love you.
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optimus prime
on 2004-10-22 22:39 [#01369544]
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let's elope to alberta and only listen to nick drake's lo fi albums.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-10-22 22:47 [#01369546]
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alberta, is that the lady version of albert?
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optimus prime
on 2004-10-22 22:56 [#01369547]
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it's how this threesome is going to work.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-10-22 22:57 [#01369548]
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in that case, i accept.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-10-23 00:25 [#01369552]
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alberta is pretty, especially banff.
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staplemouth
on 2004-10-23 01:40 [#01369580]
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triple j ( an australian radio station ) has a special segment on Elliot Smith right now, talking about his life, his band/s and his music and everything. It is really good, goes for a few hours ( maybe 3-4 )
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-03-01 19:05 [#02057075]
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Heard his song tonight. He was great.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-03-01 19:09 [#02057079]
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The drums on Miss Misery are very Beatles. Who ever produced that music really must have studied the Ringo technique
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thatne
from United States on 2007-03-01 19:44 [#02057106]
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not a very interesting artist to me.
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optimus prime
on 2007-03-01 22:25 [#02057129]
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from a basement on the hill is hands down his worst album. either/or and xo 4eva.
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Combo
from Sex on 2007-03-02 03:42 [#02057174]
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His music is probably good but it does not catch me. Perhaps it's my ears...
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Atli
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2007-03-02 04:48 [#02057203]
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there will be a new 2cd compilation out in the 8th of may with (mostly) unreleased elliott smith material called "new moon". the majority of this stuffed leaked out 2005 (and some of it later) and is on the "basement II demos". i'm looking forward to hearing this properly mastered though.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-03-02 06:54 [#02057284]
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nice one. some of those songs are my favourites.
optimus - i used to think the same, but it's a grower... really.. it's truly amazing. almost as good as XO (which is 100% pure brilliance)
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-02 09:21 [#02057351]
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There's an unfinished song called 'True Love' which I think was recorded in the Basment... sessions, I recommend it. Although its pretty sad to think about what he's singing about. Oh well, one can be objective about these things.
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-02 11:09 [#02057429]
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everything means nothing to me.
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