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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-17 11:16 [#01365302]
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not sure if anyone saw this, but it was pretty good. clicky
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2004-10-17 11:18 [#01365305]
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He doesn't much like that bow tie wearing gentleman.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-10-17 11:33 [#01365321]
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haha - wow. thanks
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papillon
on 2004-10-17 11:33 [#01365323]
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good show, mr. stewart
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-10-17 11:44 [#01365346]
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CROSS FIRE
YOU'LL GET CAUGHT UP IN THE
CROSS FIRE
that game was raw
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-17 11:45 [#01365348]
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not as good as Simon though.
the fun is in the challenge SIMON take the simon challenge SIMON
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papillon
on 2004-10-17 11:47 [#01365350]
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did anyone else ever try to point the gun up and shoot the other player? cause...
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2004-10-17 13:00 [#01365397]
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More than anything, I think that Stewart was trying to troll the Crossfire Republicanite and basically use his 5 minutes (if that) of CNN airtime to reach a greater American audience that seem to use CNN as their primary news source.
Being the skeptic that I am, this little stint probably won't do much to change the minds of those weak Bush supporters and definitely not the stronger ones. They will see Stewart as what his job represents - a mere 'comedian' who doesn't really mean what he says and is only worth what his 30-minute 'fake news show' script appears to superficially offer. Intellectual and critical discourse at the level that Stewarts demands from the likes of CNN is something completely obscured through the financial and corporate curtains of billionaire giants and so-called politically-driven 'rhetoric'.
It is dismal that most television viewers don't necessarily see what they want to see - instead, they see what someone else tells them they 'should' see. And if that someone is a right-wing republican television station, they can twist as many arms and as many editing techniques to make someone who is trying their darndest to fight Goliath look like another mere puppet of the system.
The responsibility relies on all of us to change our tune if we really want people to be taken seriously on American media - whether we be American citizens or not. For if we just sit back and passively agree with Stewart, then it's usually the pattern that everyone else will sheepishly do the same and he won't be respected as an individual beyond his comedy show.
Of course, if I had been Stewart, I would have gotten really drunk and jammed my steel-toe shoe into Carlson's limp and lifeless member. A man crying while desperately holding onto his crotch and wearing a red bowtie is a priceless image to hold onto. ;)
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-17 13:20 [#01365415]
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Yep, it as awesome to watch :)
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-17 14:10 [#01365482]
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i actually think you're wrong there. its not passively agreeing with stewart. i don't actually watch news television for precisely the reasons that stewart is pointing out. he didn't come on the show to plug the kerry campaign or change the minds of bush supporters, he came on it to point out just how bad a job news media is doing of giving news to the people, who get most of their news from television. i think its possible that this will spread around and maybe even become a "talking point" on some of these hack debate shows, if they even have the guts to discuss it. so his appearance on there and what he said is really just public opinion personified as a guest on the show, its just that the general public has no way of expressing this, other than, of course, turning off the television.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-17 14:25 [#01365506]
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Thats why I enjoy the Daily Show, it just points out stupidy in a non-partisan type of way.
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2004-10-17 14:41 [#01365541]
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the division you create between 'who to vote for' versus 'validity and sincerity of news media' is not something i'd necessarily consider disjunct. rather, i think both are interrelated and you cannot clearly and concisely pry apart one from the other, since both seem to feed off of each other.
the fallacy is assuming that criticizing news media has no apparent affect on a voter's decision. but clearly, if stewart points out the 'theatrics' of CNN's crossfire, then doesn't that directly point to the responsibility of the people who run the channel? those people are republicans, no?
his point, i think (and you may disagree), extends further than that superficial criticism of CNN as being 'bad at performing as a sincere news media source'. this has an absolutely clear connection to the party who funds the channel. everyone knows the republicans own CNN. that's no surprise. who do you think tells CNN what they should and should not plug into their airtime?
and in terms of this relating to a passive agreement w/ stewart, look at it this way. if you as the 'typical american CNN viewer', believe what you see on the channel, and then you see jon stewart doing his thing, you may be thinking 'hey, he's got a point.' but for most people, are they going to sit there and debate back and forth about the faults of CNN and how this directly reflects the tactics of the republican administration? would this really make them be critical of bush jr? probably not. most will probably just stick with what they 'know', and just vote for bush jr. even *if* they may find truth in stewart's comments.
at the heart of it all, i do see it as stewart criticizing the flaws of the show as a correlation to the flaws of the channel and thus, to the flaws of the financial backers. and no, it is not a slippery slope at all.
and sure, you can turn off your television - you have chosen NOT to believe the stuff that the news media feeds you - but the majority who are voting are probably always tuning in and ARE '
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2004-10-17 14:42 [#01365544]
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affected.' and to be passive is to know that something is glaringly wrong but you dont do anything about it.
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2004-10-17 17:01 [#01365662]
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i saw this on friday, so awsome. heres a very very fast torrent (because it was /.ed) of a much better divx4 version.
http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2800/Crossfire-2004... the audio is a tiny bit out of sync though
heh, backwards slashdot effect...
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-10-17 17:37 [#01365690]
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