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offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-10-17 11:16 [#01365302]
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not sure if anyone saw this, but it was pretty good.
clicky


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2004-10-17 11:18 [#01365305]
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He doesn't much like that bow tie wearing gentleman.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-10-17 11:33 [#01365321]
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haha - wow. thanks


 

offline papillon on 2004-10-17 11:33 [#01365323]
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good show, mr. stewart


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-10-17 11:44 [#01365346]
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CROSS FIRE

YOU'LL GET CAUGHT UP IN THE

CROSS FIRE

that game was raw


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-10-17 11:45 [#01365348]
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not as good as Simon though.

the fun is in the challenge SIMON
take the simon challenge SIMON


 

offline papillon on 2004-10-17 11:47 [#01365350]
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did anyone else ever try to point the gun up and shoot the
other player? cause...


 

offline jenf from Toronto (Canada) on 2004-10-17 13:00 [#01365397]
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More than anything, I think that Stewart was trying to troll
the Crossfire Republicanite and basically use his 5 minutes
(if that) of CNN airtime to reach a greater American
audience that seem to use CNN as their primary news source.


Being the skeptic that I am, this little stint probably
won't do much to change the minds of those weak Bush
supporters and definitely not the stronger ones. They will
see Stewart as what his job represents - a mere 'comedian'
who doesn't really mean what he says and is only worth what
his 30-minute 'fake news show' script appears to
superficially offer. Intellectual and critical discourse at
the level that Stewarts demands from the likes of CNN is
something completely obscured through the financial and
corporate curtains of billionaire giants and so-called
politically-driven 'rhetoric'.

It is dismal that most television viewers don't necessarily
see what they want to see - instead, they see what someone
else tells them they 'should' see. And if that someone is a
right-wing republican television station, they can twist as
many arms and as many editing techniques to make someone who
is trying their darndest to fight Goliath look like another
mere puppet of the system.

The responsibility relies on all of us to change our tune if
we really want people to be taken seriously on American
media - whether we be American citizens or not. For if we
just sit back and passively agree with Stewart, then it's
usually the pattern that everyone else will sheepishly do
the same and he won't be respected as an individual beyond
his comedy show.

Of course, if I had been Stewart, I would have gotten really
drunk and jammed my steel-toe shoe into Carlson's limp and
lifeless member. A man crying while desperately holding onto
his crotch and wearing a red bowtie is a priceless image to
hold onto. ;)


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-17 13:20 [#01365415]
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Yep, it as awesome to watch :)


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-10-17 14:10 [#01365482]
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i actually think you're wrong there. its not passively
agreeing with stewart. i don't actually watch news
television for precisely the reasons that stewart is
pointing out. he didn't come on the show to plug the kerry
campaign or change the minds of bush supporters, he came on
it to point out just how bad a job news media is doing of
giving news to the people, who get most of their news from
television. i think its possible that this will spread
around and maybe even become a "talking point" on some of
these hack debate shows, if they even have the guts to
discuss it. so his appearance on there and what he said is
really just public opinion personified as a guest on the
show, its just that the general public has no way of
expressing this, other than, of course, turning off the
television.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-17 14:25 [#01365506]
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Thats why I enjoy the Daily Show, it just points out stupidy
in a non-partisan type of way.


 

offline jenf from Toronto (Canada) on 2004-10-17 14:41 [#01365541]
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the division you create between 'who to vote for' versus
'validity and sincerity of news media' is not something i'd
necessarily consider disjunct. rather, i think both are
interrelated and you cannot clearly and concisely pry apart
one from the other, since both seem to feed off of each
other.

the fallacy is assuming that criticizing news media has no
apparent affect on a voter's decision. but clearly, if
stewart points out the 'theatrics' of CNN's crossfire, then
doesn't that directly point to the responsibility of the
people who run the channel? those people are republicans,
no?

his point, i think (and you may disagree), extends further
than that superficial criticism of CNN as being 'bad at
performing as a sincere news media source'. this has an
absolutely clear connection to the party who funds the
channel. everyone knows the republicans own CNN. that's no
surprise. who do you think tells CNN what they should and
should not plug into their airtime?

and in terms of this relating to a passive agreement w/
stewart, look at it this way. if you as the 'typical
american CNN viewer', believe what you see on the channel,
and then you see jon stewart doing his thing, you may be
thinking 'hey, he's got a point.' but for most people, are
they going to sit there and debate back and forth about the
faults of CNN and how this directly reflects the tactics of
the republican administration? would this really make them
be critical of bush jr? probably not. most will probably
just stick with what they 'know', and just vote for bush jr.
even *if* they may find truth in stewart's comments.

at the heart of it all, i do see it as stewart criticizing
the flaws of the show as a correlation to the flaws of the
channel and thus, to the flaws of the financial backers. and
no, it is not a slippery slope at all.

and sure, you can turn off your television - you have chosen
NOT to believe the stuff that the news media feeds you - but
the majority who are voting are probably always tuning in
and ARE '


 

offline jenf from Toronto (Canada) on 2004-10-17 14:42 [#01365544]
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affected.' and to be passive is to know that something is
glaringly wrong but you dont do anything about it.


 

offline denniscpearce from Canada on 2004-10-17 17:01 [#01365662]
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i saw this on friday, so awsome.
heres a very very fast torrent (because it was /.ed) of a
much better divx4 version.
http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2800/Crossfire-2004...
the audio is a tiny bit out of sync though

heh, backwards slashdot effect...


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-10-17 17:37 [#01365690]
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Independant Mainstream(dependant) Media


 


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