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P Diddy and kr3w are pushing and traveling around hte country; registering voters ... no matter who they are. Just "omg look how many registered voters we have signed up!" Ok, so what? Finally, someone with some fucking BRAINS came out and said the truth (Matt and Trey from South Park / World Police movie) basically, having uninformed people voting is worse than having them not vote at all....they should be getting people educated on the subjects, then voting...not just saying "here, one more person to vote who has no fuckin idea what is going wrong" anyone agree with this? I sure as hell do. |
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i agree. |
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apathy rules. |
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Yes. This is why I think only white males who own property should be allowed to vote. |
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yes sir |
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P diddy is just driving around in his big ass VOTE OR DIE tour bus signing up all sorts of people off the street. Of course, the have no fucking idea whats going on "truely", and im sure many of them could give a shits less... ...and they're prolly like "oh well who should i vote for" and big ol' P DIDDY is prolly telling them, Kerry (or Bush, I don't know) .... but probably Kerry. Isn't that fucked up? Who knows how many votes he's getting. Well I guess that's fine because both parties do this; it's just kinda fucked up to see him act like he's doing "his part" by getting people to VOTE, OR DIe!!!! when their vote is still stupid because they don't know what they are truely voting for. sheesh! In the famous words of P DIDDY "uh take that, uh take that" |
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take that TAKE THAT. i need to say that to a bitch next time im riding her from behind, like he says it on his tracks. take that, take that. uh |
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I don't know what people are being signed up, but everyone has a vote, that's democracy, if you don't like it join an armed militia. And maybe these people, if they are suffering from social deprivation, lack of resources, lack of employment, racial issues etc may know a bit more about what's "truely" going on than some overprivileged network engineer who, despite being unable to string a coherent sentence together, has set himself up as the last remaining defender of the free west. |
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populists are scary. the pray on the weak and inept. its immoral regardless of what the party's policies are |
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dog_belch, I think you are missing the point. What good is a vote if it is an uneducated one? What if all these voters P DIDDY is signing up are going to vote for Bush "just for the hell of it" cause they don't care and they don'tk now what's going on Then what? |
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"overpriviledged"? Hah, least I know what I'm doing...and it shows. |
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Lest ye forget, EVERYONE in america is entitled to vote, no matter how "uneducated" you consider them. This is democracy. |
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I understand their right to vote. That's not what I'm arguing here...... I'm trying to debate between whether it is better for an uninformed / uneducated person to vote and basically "guess" or pick-and-choose, vs not voting at all, I'm a firm believer in everyone voting, and getting out and voting, but this is quite an abstract way to look at it that I haven't done before, and jsut wanted to see what you guys thought. |
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You're dangerously close to saying Democracy is rubbish. Are you a communist, Elusive? Or a gay? |
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Oh, it's dangerously close all right. But I'm just trying to wrap my head around the idea. |
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Go P.Diddy! Fight the good fight. Motivate the disenfranchised. Just don't forget to bring gas money for your Benz. |
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!!!!!!!!!!!!! i know, heh |
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If you consider the USA to be a true democracy, then the closer the vote-count to 100% of the population the better, right?. Uninformed / uneducated / whatever... maybe you should blame a rather biased media system for their supposed ignorance... i dunno. Also: "Uneducated" is a very subjective term, to be honest... how do you know these people are "uneducated", as you put it? |
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Well, don't put me too far into this. I'm just toying with the idea and doing some thinking about it. I fully agree that everyone should vote. I have a lot of friends who say "im not voting, my vote doesn't count" and i've actually gotten into fights with temabout it cause it just pisses me off. |
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don't forget baseketball |
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well, if you believe everyone should vote, it doesn't really matter how they come to do so, just as long as what they vote for is their own choice, how badly educated they may be about the candidates and their programs. |
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arg...i know im just TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THE IDEA. you guys don't have anythingto say about the idea? I know "everyone should vote" that's not what I'm trying to discuss here.!!! |
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I wish I knew what you were on about. You can't understand people being encouraged to vote? That's because you're a fascist with a view that some people are subhuman and should have their fundamental rights taken away in case they disagree with you. Now ask us another one. |
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I FUCKING CAN ENCOURAGE IT IM TRYING TO SPART A DISCUSSING ON WHETHER VOTEING (i.e., just picking one, if yer uneducated / have no idea what each person stands for) OR NOT VOTING AT ALL. WHY CAN'T YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. how many posts have this taken now? |
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it would help if you could actually articulate the idea you're trying to wrap your head around. |
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well read the first post again. i am kinda torn between this. one point i can agree with it, others i cant (from previous experience). so im kinda tyring to spark some talk about it, but looking at the last 10posts its not gnona happen. |
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Well maybe people should have a test before they vote, what is Bush's far right christian businessman appeasing view on abortion? What is Kerry's far right christian businessman appeasing view on tax breaks for billionaires. If you don't get it right your vote is void. |
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well what the fuck do you want to hear? no sense saying "it's not gonna happen", there isn't much to be discussed. |
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As for the "idea" you propose, i would say that in a democracy it doesn't matter how one person considers the citizens, they all have an equal right to vote, no matter how they are encouraged etc. I think the issue of whether it's "useful for our free nation" is irrelevant to be honest. |
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I think it's funny how you're getting all frustrated at us, while you are the one who's hardly able to communicate your thoughts. |
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deepspace9mm, thanksfor the input. at least he's not being difficult like you HAVE to be with me on every thread. yawn |
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i choose death |
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I guess the logic behind registering EVERYBODY is that even folks that are semi-retarded or have been frozen in a block of ice for the last 4 years will come to the realization that George Bush is the biggest piece of shit ever to put on cowboy boots and vote accordingly |
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your baseball taem sucks. ediT: shit mine does too grrr |
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your baseball team has ALWAYS sucked. |
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at least we got the lions.......... |
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.....wait a second! |
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"IM TRYING TO SPART A DISCUSSING ON WHETHER VOTEING" that made my day :) |
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how hard is it two choose between two guys? everybody must have some opinion on them and, ideologicly speaking, voting is what makes democracy, so everybody should be urged to vote |
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well, everybody should have formed an opinion on bush anyway, and if you think he sucks you vote the other guy |
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