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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-15 04:40 [#01363754]
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-15 08:21 [#01363837]
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damnit it looks badass
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-10-15 08:27 [#01363843]
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I don't see the difference except a 2nd disc with some selected tracks from the remixes releases, and 3 demo versions of songs.
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2004-10-15 08:47 [#01363856]
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clearly in need of money because it's been 20938472903847 years since the last album . . .
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-10-15 10:01 [#01363930]
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yeah... as much as i love NIN, i am not buying the downward spiral over again for three demo tracks.
the sonic youth dirty deluxe edition was way better. it had all the b-sides and tons of unreleased rehearsal jams. it's excellent.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-15 10:03 [#01363932]
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this does look like a bit of a moneygrabbing device.
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uzim
on 2004-10-15 10:11 [#01363937]
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if you have the normal edition and Further Down The Spiral, you have the best i think... (i have downloaded all tracks from both editions from Further Down The Spiral and made a playlist with them, sometimes it's a bit redundant but there are some really great remixes/tracks in there!)
just download Dead Souls if you don't have it yet, it's a great song and one of the least angst-ridden NIN songs i know - almost upbeat! (i have yet to hear the original by the way - now that i think of it, i'm not sure i have ever heard anything by Joy Division/New Order...)
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uzim
on 2004-10-15 10:13 [#01363938]
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Dead Souls (Joy Division cover).
not the best sound quality but what the hell, just ask the blue bird for a better quality : )
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welt
on 2004-10-15 10:24 [#01363949]
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i remember when i bought the fragile and listented to it for the first time. i enjoyed the music, but then trent reznor sang the pathetic lines "the clouds will part and the sky cracks open and god himself will reach his fucking arm through just to push you down, just to hold you down" (the state of mind of a 13y old goth-outcast) which made the whole music ridiculous. he may have some idea of music making - but he's rather stupid (that's why he shouldnt sing his embarrassing "poetry").
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herbwest
from Seattle (United States) on 2004-10-15 10:28 [#01363952]
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it's mixed in 5.1 - i imagine with the right setup it will sound gorgeous.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-10-15 10:43 [#01363968]
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I think you should let him do exactly what he wants to do, it's his music not yours.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-15 10:54 [#01363972]
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oooh touchy!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-10-15 11:00 [#01363979]
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hey, it's rock music. since when is it the criteria of rock "must always have mind-blowingly brilliant lyrics"?
in general, sometimes lyrics can come off as cheesy or hackneyed or whatever. not everyone will have the same taste. you could take just about any poem ever written and put it into a context that makes it seem lame.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-15 11:09 [#01363982]
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"you could take just about any poem ever written and put it into a context that makes it seem lame."
really?
I would like to see you do this..
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-10-15 11:12 [#01363983]
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so would i. i'm not sure i could. but i figured you'd say that. that's why i included the failsafe, "just about" to allow for the plethora of exceptions to the rule. :)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-15 11:15 [#01363986]
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HA! very good, carry on. :)
(I think, if you really want to, you can indeed find faults in a lot of poetry. but some poetry is easier to shoot holes into than others and you could just as easily see that as a prime criterium for what devides good from bad poetry: the easier it is to find fault (the more obvious the faults are), the worse the poetry is...)
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-10-15 11:27 [#01363992]
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scroll down
i already have heard all the xtra songs, except for the demos, it will be nice to have this collection all on one cd then
trent doesnt need the money by any means he basically self-made a genre of music who doesnt list theri influneces as nin ?
ill get it, dont really care about thre remastering i knew about this a few weeks ago and have been listening to "the downward spiral" cd, its a perfect ANGST cd
cant wait for BLEEDTHROUGH
ps i met my wife @ nin, omaha, feb13,1995
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uzim
on 2004-10-15 11:43 [#01364010]
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i think Refund is right, let people do the music they want! : )
but welt is also right, let people have the opinion they want about the music...
anyway i think the worst lyric lines by NIN are the ones that come right after the ones welt mentioned:
"(the clouds will part and the sky cracks open and god himself will reach his fucking arm through just to push you down just to hold you down) stuck in this hole with the shit and the piss and it's hard to believe it could come down to this back at the beginning sinking spinning"
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this just makes me cringe. getting your inspiration from the toilet can be ok, but not when you're making "serious" music... : |
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uzim
on 2004-10-15 11:44 [#01364012]
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...well, i still like NIN nevertheless and i'll surely give a listen to this new album when it comes out in 2007.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-10-15 11:45 [#01364015]
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spring/summer 2006
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-10-15 11:46 [#01364017]
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i don't know whether he's got a lot of money or not. i heard that his former manger or agent had him sign away just about all his rights and screwed him out of millions and that's what the lawsuit is about. we could only speculate.
are these deluxe editions a scam? in some ways i think they're great. it's sort of like getting the DVD re-release of a VHS.
that's why i was hoping that the downward spiral would have more unreleased stuff on it - because i already have all the other tracks on cd... oh well.
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uzim
on 2004-10-15 12:05 [#01364026]
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well, if i remember, it was originally planned for 2004, then spring 2005, then christmas 2005, then...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-15 12:15 [#01364031]
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if you're offering a cd that really only is now in surround and add stuff that most of the fans already have anyway, plus you produce two formats that have slightly different content each, that does rather sound like trying to make a nice little bit of money.
it doesn't matter how many people say Reznor influenced them, that doesn't mean you can pull off a stunt like that.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-10-15 21:44 [#01364436]
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futher down the spiral, anyone?
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big
from lsg on 2004-10-15 23:57 [#01364452]
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yes
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warh0l
from <----- on 2004-10-16 00:16 [#01364456]
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nin these days, imo. . . needs more instrumentals. they sound far too produced to me now.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-10-17 09:21 [#01365111]
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trent is a MASTER @ producing, the innocent days of "pretty hate machine" are over, move onto the future
cant wait for BLEEDTHROUGH.
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2004-10-17 09:27 [#01365125]
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hey, i liked pretty hate machine. it had this ghetto goodness about it that is hard to find these days. come on, admit it.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-10-17 09:43 [#01365152]
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well yeah but seeing it was released in 1988, we will never hear that same sound from trent again, or any muscian
ps i have ALL the Halos, do you ? met my wife @ a nin show, blah blah blah youve all heard the story 1000 times
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-17 11:36 [#01365332]
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tee hee! :)
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-10-17 11:43 [#01365345]
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i think he's a cunt for taking the time to add the typewriter blur effect on that webpage
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-10-17 15:21 [#01365588]
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you lack creativity sometimes mister
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-17 15:29 [#01365602]
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you think he does that himself?
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-17 15:33 [#01365609]
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heard about this a while ago, personally I cant wait to get it to replace my scratched cd I bought ages ago. Nice to have the extra tracks too, i'd rather have cd quality than shitty downloads.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-10-17 15:37 [#01365613]
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im sure he had some input on the idea though.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-17 15:52 [#01365624]
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i know, i didn't mean that. Just meant he wasn't spending ages actually doing that for the website.
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mimi
on 2004-10-17 16:31 [#01365650]
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aw man, do you know how many copies of TDS i have already bought? sheesh. i am hard on stuff. this is why i don't buy cds; i know i won't take care of them. plus i already have all that stuff, minus the demos, which i don't really know how much i care about. ehh, i'm thinking i'll pass.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-10-17 16:34 [#01365652]
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NIN, ahahahahahahahahahaahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHH.. ahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...NIN. Ahaha..ha. They are a joke-band, after all, aren't they? The goth Spinal Tap, the industrial Tenacious D. Like Mortis, aren't they?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-17 17:20 [#01365678]
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"The goth Spinal Tap"..
is there any other kind of goth?
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-19 07:02 [#01366556]
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Uh-oh, Nin and Mortis both in one thread, I must format!
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-10-20 11:36 [#01367211]
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maybe i wont get this, i already have heard all teh songs, except the demos
DEMOS r dum
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-10-20 11:39 [#01367217]
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its not called bleedthough anymore (nin.com)
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-21 01:19 [#01367861]
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ninininininininin BATMAN
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idle interloper
on 2004-10-21 01:56 [#01367876]
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I think those lyrics posted are really bad. But not because I think they are uncreative or something, but because it seems very insincere. I don't know how mr. Reznor views the world, or whatever, but, to me, it seems pretty egotistical and unwarranted for someone who is making a living as basically a "rock star" to say that. In fact it makes relatively little sense for nearly any american to say that. I know there are many privileged people who are very depressed or angry for various reasons, but they are usually better at expressing their state of mind/reasons for feeling that way, other than stupid shit that says basically "God hates me."
If god exists (s)he must hate everyone, but not equally. Most anyone who has the time/effort to sulk about trivial shit, and revel in it, has been blessed much... So much that they are actually able to focus on and dwell on their negativity, instead of worrying about just staying alive... Those people are, instead, constantly being faced by REAL, tangible problems, like starvation, war, etc... -Things that should justify sorrowful emotions. - The people who actually have to go through a physical hell every day are the ones, and I think, the only ones who should say/express things like Trent often says.
The human race sickens me sometimes. It's like we have run out of problems so we create them out of next to nothing and severely over-exaggerate. I'm not saying I am above this, but seeing it just really bothers me when people are so drawn to it and condone it.
I think Reznor's a talented, brilliant musician who's lyrics are often too full of his self-pity. He could be taking that negativity and using it to reflect the world, criticizing what needs to be changed, or making something that people can relate with, other than naive kids saying "Oooh. How deep this is. I also hate life." Or something.
Sorry for the unneeded rant.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-21 06:39 [#01367964]
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i'll probably pick this up.
also sorta excited about the closure dvd... i have low expectations for bleedthrough though.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-10-21 06:46 [#01367969]
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if you have "the downward spiral" and "further down the spiral" you basically have this, trent is whipping the dead horse, imo
but "still" was so good i think i will forgive him.
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big
from lsg on 2004-10-21 07:26 [#01367981]
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the closer single was crap too
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-21 07:39 [#01367986]
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i thought the closer single was totally awesmoe.
my other copies of tds are either lost or scratched to the bjesus belt and back.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-21 08:17 [#01367998]
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"closer" is a good song, but the b-sides on the closer-single are shit.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-21 08:21 [#01368000]
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really? halo 9?
fuck. now i'm having to re-evaluate the entirety of 1994.
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