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I used to think he was a total generic robot politician douchebag. After learning more about him and watching the presidential debates, I actually respect the guy now. And with every debate I feel like its less of "both canidates are the same bullshit" and more of "John Kerry is our savior, amen". holla. |
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kerry wont bomb the world as the previous 15 presidents? *15 as an arbitrary number |
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aren't they all? |
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only if all other options fail. Which is the opposite of Bush, who will bomb with no good reason other than to set up shop and make some money for him and his buddies. Kerry has been to war, unlike bush, so he knows how terrible it is and how even worse it is to goto war for no good reason whatsoever (vietnam). |
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viewtnam had a better reason to go to war than iraq |
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'liberation' right? LOL, what kind of economic benefits were there during vietnam? |
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Because there is barely a difference between a republican and a democrat. I'm not playing typical anti-american here, The US system, fundamentally has some strong points. But the race for presidency isn't one of them. |
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Vietnam was fear of the spread of communism. And south vietnam had some French rubber factories w're defending. Something like that. Dumb reasons. Never should have happened. |
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I'd sooner have someone with a reputation of "indecisive" than a reputation of "irresponsible murderer"". That might be just me though. |
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Frontline had a special biography on both canidates last night. It seemed pretty non partisan. The special covered starting at the time they went to Yale and ending present day. It went into Kerrys voting record and his motivations for those votes. While I'm not crazy about Kerry, I have a little more respect for him now. |
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I have to agree with you their, at one point everone was saying he was the 'least worst' but having seen more of him seems like he could be a decent president (if thats possible). I'll definately be cheering him on but really after these 3 debates which Bush seems to have lost how can anyone in the US 'really' want Bush for another 4 years? I personally find it pretty scary that such a large amount of people can think Bush is a good president. |
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its good you americans have an alternative to bush, someone who you think will actually be better than him... vote for him in the UK its just blair, the other guy is not electable |
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i couldnt care less |
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not to mention the lib dems who went downhill after paddy left... |
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he is much better than bush, the only option. |
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if you don't live in our country and by our laws, rules, taxes, education, etc., then it's kinda hard to say "I personally find it pretty scary that such a large amount of people can think Bush is a good president. " I can understand your perspective from an outside entity, but face it... you're not living in the country right now. You are only seeing the foriegn relations side of things, not the inner workings of the US systems. |
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Yeah. I wish our Prime Minister was a trained monkey as well. |
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So, just because people don't live in your country they can't know how the US political system operates? I don't think so. Plus, european countries you get a lot more of an insight into american domestic relations than you do into ours. American news is the world's news. |
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didn't this conversation already arrise, I think you came out the loser... |
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thats rubbish, and I stand by what I said. Its scary that so many people think he's a good president. Thats my opinion based on his pretty well know mistakes, which you don't have to be in the US to see... |
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I'm glad I'm not American, although I'm sure we'll all feel the effects no matter what happens |
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I'm glad I'm American, even though I'm sure I'll all feel the effects no matter what happens |
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minus all <-- goddamn stupid american |
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if you don't live in our country and by our laws, rules, taxes, education, etc., then it's kinda hard to say "I personally find it pretty scary that such a large amount of people can think Bush is a good president. " c'mon man, the US is the only superpower on earth. decisions we make affect every other country on the planet, so obviously someone outside of the country should be concerned with who our leader is. |
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but at least the little kiddies will be educated! THAT'S the key to a better wage ! |
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Here we go. Us VS Them all over again... |
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p0g0, what difference does it make? LOL it's funny to hear you say "omg im so kewl cause im not american" uhh, why, because you don't like the current leader? So what.how does that take away from anything you yourself believe in. Jeezous you are WACK |
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Everyone settle down. Kerry WILL win or I will eat my own feces. |
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i demand photographic evidence!! lol |
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oh indeed there will be. |
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that's it, ALWAYS take things too seriously. |
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im so happy i dont live in america, i'd be all stupid and stuff |
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ha ha!! the "i'd be all stupid and stuff" makes that statement excellent. |
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yeah, i was thinking of 'i'd be like stupid' at first but this seemed just a tad more right on |
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I wish I was as confident as Weatheredstoner about all this... But then again it'd then be more disapointing instead of expected. |
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That is, Bush's possible re-election would be, in that case. Damn. I can never form a coherent thought. |
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your elections yet again devaluated to a shit-eating contest.. |
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and where are you from again? |
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wtf? |
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the place that gets news coverage that resembles unopiniated. |
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If you rely on the news media to understand what's going on you are fucked no matter where you live. |
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sadly, there isn't much you can do about that, except take in different sources, always keeping in the back of your mind that you're dealing with interpretations. |
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yes, I think this is called having a mind of your own |
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..which is always fed by the media. unless you have the time to scoot all over the world and see things for yourself, there is nothing you can do. such is life in China. |
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My mind is fed by butter and expensive liquor. It is sad to me that you are so apathetic. |
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excuse me, where did we take the u-turn to me being apathetic? I'm simply saying this is reality. there really is nothing you can do, but the aforementioned (take in different sources, always keeping in the back of your mind that you're dealing with interpretations). saying that "if you rely on the news media to understand what's going on you are fucked no matter where you live" is just painting too simple a picture. this has nothing to do with me being apathetic or not. |
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"I'm simply saying this is reality. there really is nothing you can do..." ap·a·thy Audio pronunciation of "apathy" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (p-th) n. 1. Lack of interest or concern, especially regarding matters of general importance or appeal; indifference. 2. Lack of emotion or feeling; impassiveness. |
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Who cares? |
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more apathy |
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