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Hey folks...long time no see. i just saw both of moore`s last two documentaries in two days....and i can honestly state how deeply sorry i am for the united staters. poor bastards, how badly has the media come to manipulate and overule them in such a way where they can buy countless ammo from k-mart...how corruption in the high ranks of their soiety is poluting the entire world, how that very ideal society that they`ve built has led them to worldwide ranks of homicide and children murdering, crumbling down in such a sadly and glorious way.......how ignorance is leading entire redneck and white trash communities into violence and support for the wrong politicians....it is probably been talked about it over and over in this mb, but i couldnt find it with the search button (isnt that amazing...), and really wanted to say something, in regards to the upcoming president elections. vote bush, ruin your day (or is it pay his day?) |
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I hate stuff. |
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The world is so wrong, isn't it? |
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michael moore is an idiot though, most of the time. |
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you feel nostalgic? ;) |
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it's an alright film maker but not too trustworthy :) |
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americas stupid |
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don't hate me cause i live on a different patch of dirt |
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I'm gonna live in a cave |
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I'm going to live on Planet Shope. it'll be sweet. |
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I live in the country of aznar and franco... and I still think cos its also the country of picasso, gaudi, lorca, velazquez, miguel hernandez.... |
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come and live on Planet Shope. it'll be sweet. |
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Planet Shope only has 1/3 of earth's gravity. i spend most of my days leaping over 10 story buildings, and throwing nerf footballs and jetliners. |
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I will start a thread about Planet Shope in about 15 minutes. it'll be sweet. |
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sweet. |
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the us are so strong they force other countries to have liberal economies which is pretty sad. i'm quite pessimistic about how the world's going, there has to be some change on an international scale. americans should massively vote socialist for more justice and less greed. |
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dunno what the americans socialists worth though. |
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michael moore is a sensationalist jackass. he hasn't swayed any voters because he's preaching to the converted, and he's also a hypocrite for not actually contributing to any of the causes he so fervently claims to support. he makes liberals look bad. jon stewart is having a much larger impact on young voters over here than michael moore will ever have. |
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what kind of impact is jon stewart having on young american voters? |
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well, there was a poll among that demographic that represents the kind of people moore is attempting to get to vote for kerry, i guess it'd be 18-25 year olds, and something like sixty percent of them regularly watch the daily show and get their news from that as well. thats a sort of disheartening idea, but stewarts got some amount of power right now over the college age crowd because he and his show is so blatently pro kerry. i'm also not saying that impact is large, simply large in contrast to moore, who's taking the propaganda route which really isn't doing anything for him or the people he's trying to sway. |
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hmm...interesting what you miss when you don't watch television. i had no idea his show was so popular now. just this morning, watching fox news at the gym, i thought "it's interesting that there isn't a counterpoint to this obviously pro-bush news coverage". fox is pretty blatantly pro-bush, or at least pro-invasion, if you ask me. anyway, getting off topic. back to the fat loud man. i actually admire the guy...he's using his power to directly affect public opinion. whether or not it's working, you have to applaud him for trying. |
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i do admire what he's been doing, and, as propaganda, farenheit 9/11 is a great piece of work. if he actually does influence the election toward a positive (kerry) outcome, than i'm happy. i just can't stand the man himself. he's the liberal answer to rush limbaugh. |
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i think that's a pretty valid comparison. that being said; i'd much rather hang out with moore than limbaugh... although rush probably would have some pretty good pills. |
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its spelled 'polluting' and well thats about all i have to say. GO BUSH! *leaves immediately* |
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Go home? |
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ha ha that is too much |
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Oh, and Duh |
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ah yes, because a vote for nader is a vote for bush. |
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Are you joking? A vote for Kerry is a vote for almost the exact same shit as Bush. (Not to say that Kerry is as bad or worse than Bush) Honestly, I could actually stand another four years of George Bush if in the next election, third parties were actual candidates. Besides, just voting AGAINST something is incredibly dumb. |
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our democracy as it exists is flawed. not everyone is equally represented, the electoral college is a bullshit idea. the last thing we need to worry about is a third party. as much as i hate to say that, because i like naders ideas, its just the reality of the situation. we need to fix the system we have before totally changing it. also, a vote for nader draws a vote away from kerry. nader won't win. its essentially a vote for bush, whether you want to admit it or not. |
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Actually, its worth a little less than a vote for Bush : ) But I know what you mean. And I realize that this probably isn't the best election for third parties to emerge, but it has to start soon for anything to change. You are probably right, I just wanted to remind people that there were different ideas out there, and while you don't need to vote for them, it is definitely important that people support them. Third parties really need to start getting their names out right after this election if they want any change of getting in the single digits in 2008 :/ |
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Erm. *chance |
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