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rudster
from the glasgow on 2004-10-07 17:44 [#01356230]
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dunno how the fuck to use this.
i get error messages about ports n shit
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 17:45 [#01356236]
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What client are you using?
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-07 17:47 [#01356243]
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yeah, i can't figure out how to get rid of my COTdamn NAT errors... i'm so tired of that little yellow :| guy staring at me all the time i could puke.
<-- Azureus
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-07 17:48 [#01356246]
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you only get NAT errors if you're using a router, right?
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-07 17:49 [#01356256]
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i guess so.
i think it's because i use a shithole dsl modem/switch/router/firewall thing... and, i can't figure out how to turn the motherfucking firewall off on it.
i also have a wireless router connected behind the dsl modem. that's the firewall i'd like to use.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-10-07 17:50 [#01356258]
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bit torrents always crash my shit! like for real y'all. they be hella crashin' my shit y'all. fuh real!
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 17:52 [#01356266]
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ruters have a problem with bittorrent due to the number of requests that come in while you are running it, it causes a lot of routers to crash. The only real solutions are to either put up with the crashes/shitty speeds, or put the bittorrent machine in a DMZ outside of NAT.
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sneakattack
on 2004-10-07 17:56 [#01356282]
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Another option is to use a modern client which supports upnp, allowing bittorrent to communicate with your router and automagically open the ports it needs. Bittornado and azureus on windows both do this, and azureus on linux does it as well.
Your router needs to be sufficiently modern to have upnp, and most have an option to enable/disable it..
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mrgypsum
on 2004-10-07 17:57 [#01356285]
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nice
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 18:01 [#01356290]
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It's not just that though, portforwarding shouldn't be that much of a problem. It's the amount and frequency of packets hitting the router, it can overload them when using NAT (because obviously it has to route the information internally).
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-07 18:01 [#01356292]
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holy crappin shit, i got it!
i put my router in the DMZ of my dsl modem. and in the setup for my wireless router i forwarded port 6881 (both TCP and UDP) to my machine.
wierd timing this thread. i've been fucking with it all evening.
Hello mr. green smilie!!!
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-07 18:02 [#01356293]
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i'd been trying that for a while, i just had the router's IP address wrong.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 18:04 [#01356295]
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Bittorrent doesn't use UDP so that shouldn't be effecting it.
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sneakattack
on 2004-10-07 18:05 [#01356300]
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Two things: 1) my suggestion is a better solution, because if you ever use some tweaked client with different ports, it will automagically work (if that thinger is supported)
2) IIRC bt by default wants 6881-6889, and many clients need 6881-6899, so get those in the forwarding as well.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-07 18:08 [#01356304]
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hmm... i've got a setting (checkbox) in Configuration > Server entitled "Enable UDP tracker client protocol. This uses the same port number as the TCP server".
it was checked by default.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-07 18:10 [#01356306]
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hmm... my router has UPnP enabled by default, and Azureus was still having nat issues.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-07 18:12 [#01356309]
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p.s. my d/l speed is now kicking the llama's ass!
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-07 18:30 [#01356330]
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nice.
now forwarding ports 2234 and 5534 allowed me to actually browse people's folders on soulseek too!
do i need to open both TCP and UDP for soulseek?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-07 18:32 [#01356334]
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"It's not just that though, portforwarding shouldn't be that
much of a problem. It's the amount and frequency of packets
hitting the router, it can overload them when using NAT (because obviously it has to route the information internally). "
Nah, you'll saturate your internet circuit before your internal switch/router.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-07 18:33 [#01356335]
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ephos, what all did you put in the DMZ?
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-07 18:39 [#01356340]
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the IP of my wireless router.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 18:41 [#01356342]
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What the fuck are you typing about? I actually meant the number of open sessions that bittorrent creates can saturate the NAT table which causes the router to crash.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-07 19:29 [#01356381]
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wait, did you ask that for a reason, elsuive?
are you gonna perform some leet ninja shit on my cumputer?
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-10-07 23:37 [#01356592]
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Get Bit Tornado...best torrent program out IMO. Just make sure your Upload/Download Rate are proportional to one another....basically d/l it and everything that is set at default will work. Also, if your using Windows 2000 or XP be sure to disable the internal firewall or it will cause Bit Tornado to run MUCH slower.
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