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conacure from Alaska on 2002-01-23 23:44 [#00074242] | |||||||||
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hmm |
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Lydia from Hell, yeah on 2002-01-23 23:57 [#00074246] | |||||||||
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*ponders the meaning of it all* |
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Loogie from UK on 2002-01-23 23:59 [#00074247] | |||||||||
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*strokes chin* |
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Nathan Fritz from Morgantown/WV/USA on 2002-01-24 00:05 [#00074248] | |||||||||
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Hrrm... well, ponder all you want, but just make sure that you realize that whatever the meaning of it all used to be, it has changed, especially with the environment we've placed this world into, instead of the natural course of events that would have been taken otherwise had not humans begun to exist. The only meaning I suggest there may still be is to attempt to return to this natural order, accomodate for the ruin we've brought to the concept, and to engage your fellow species-members in a consistent check-sum of each other. Any point that there once was, there really isn't much of one anymore. Even supposing god (in any sense) exists, you still need to realize that your actions here WILL have an effect on the world, and you can't live life supposing that since you're dying and going somewhere special (or no where at all) that you can mess things up for the creatures (or even lack thereof) coming afterwards. If you don't care at all, go kill yourself now and get it over with... well, Oh yeah, there's that natural selection idea? Think about it - not the killing part, the theory behind it. Not such a bad concept, huh? |
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conacure from Alaska on 2002-01-24 00:25 [#00074258] | |||||||||
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conacure from Alaska on 2002-01-24 00:27 [#00074260] | |||||||||
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It's free interpretation for all! |
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evolume from seattle WA usa on 2002-01-24 00:33 [#00074263] | |||||||||
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humans are part of the natural order, evolved upon this planet along with all the other critters. unless you believe in creationism in which case i agree with you. |
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Rustopher Krussel from New York on 2002-01-24 00:46 [#00074267] | |||||||||
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yes indeed... |
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conacure from Alaska on 2002-01-24 02:31 [#00074299] | |||||||||
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So the topic here is evolution? |
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Nathan Fritz from Morgantown/WV/USA on 2002-01-24 08:12 [#00074362] | |||||||||
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Hrrm... no, specifically in reference to humans evolving in accordance with the natural order - no, I do not believe in creationism, in fact, I am a rather hearty skeptic. My point is simply such that whatever evolutionary or intermediary process has landed up in our current situation is such that we need to temper the intelligence we use to create our technology and ideals with the wisdom of the right and wrong of where we stand with how things would be otherwise.... FOR INSTANCE - no other organism on this planet has the capability to LIE. specifically, being not deception nor trickery, but blatant misrepresentation of a falsehood to be the truth. We as human beings have begun - and/or are well along the path of - the sidestepping of evolutionary procedures that have (even in the short time theists will allow the earth have existed) show distinct, obvious, and undeniable affects upon the progeny of the earlier generations of homo sapiens... need I also mention the fact that we are NO LONGER HUMAN... Homo Sapiens... the literal latin word meaning the same as the English noun human, is not what the species we modern theorists wish to call human, any longer. Our furtherment of the disadvantages of de-evolution as reasons to aid people has resulted in, over time, the effect of our race now being classified by Antropologists (the same people you rely upon to tell you how biblical cities DID exist) as HOMO SAPIENS SAPIENS - human superior superior, specifically in that we have no longer continued to evolve in order to fit our environment, but as now a completely seperate race, attempt to fit our environment to our personal preferences... realizing that wearing a wool sweater (in order to feel warm) is adapting your environment to fit your personal preference. |
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jand from Essex on 2002-01-24 09:27 [#00074373] | |||||||||
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Shite, I thought this thread was another MiniPop figure of Craig David.... |
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conacure from Alaska on 2002-01-24 23:53 [#00074613] | |||||||||
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I'm not a religious person either, but are human institutions considered unnatural? We ourselves are physically natural. So perhaps the unnatural was produced by the natural? |
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hevquip from 45.697 bits of electricity on 2002-01-24 23:59 [#00074615] | |||||||||
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why couldn't things have stayed silent? it is much better that way... |
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conacure from Alaska on 2002-01-25 00:25 [#00074617] | |||||||||
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Taxi? on 2002-01-25 03:14 [#00074666] | |||||||||
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Oh yeah? You silly pretentious liar!!! (insert 15 paragraph argument, all in caps) So take that you psuedo-intelectual tripe-head. |
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laughable butane bobby on 2002-01-25 04:01 [#00074687] | |||||||||
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natural selection is almost a non-factor in human evolution. the production of children is not based on quality, health, intelligence, or beauty of the parents. in fact, the top 33% quality individuals of human society probably have the least amount of children percentage wise. the ugly breed. the sick breed. already america and england are countries full of whiny, sickly people who complain all day long. you know, the traditional Islamic system is actually much better from a biologists viewpoint, with the alpha males breeding with 50 handpicked beautiful women. my conclusion. |
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Intruder from chicago on 2002-01-25 04:04 [#00074690] | |||||||||
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Intruder from chicago on 2002-01-25 04:04 [#00074691] | |||||||||
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conacure from Alaska on 2002-01-25 04:05 [#00074692] | |||||||||
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THAT'S MY LINE! AGH! YOU THIEF! |
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Intruder from chicago on 2002-01-25 04:05 [#00074693] | |||||||||
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*scratches nuts* AHHHH! quiet time! i get it! |
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conacure from Alaska on 2002-01-25 04:09 [#00074696] | |||||||||
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(heavy sigh) |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-25 04:15 [#00074702] | |||||||||
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laughable butane bobby ..yes ive thought of that too.. how can we continue to evolve if those of us with better genetic qualities (strength, health, how much nutrience we can extract from grain, efficiency of our lungs, etc.) (especially intelligence) dont reproduce more than those who are "weaker" (even reproduce LESS..) |
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laughable butane bobby on 2002-01-25 04:23 [#00074706] | |||||||||
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Evolve doesn't have to mean getting better or improved or smarter. |
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Intruder from chicago on 2002-01-25 04:28 [#00074713] | |||||||||
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well. apparently youve nver heard of powerpills! theyre magically delicious...AND will open up your mind to a WHOLE new way of thinking. unlike those OTHER brands, that just fuck with your crebral cortex. |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-25 04:34 [#00074716] | |||||||||
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ya i know evolveing doesn't necesarily mean "better/smarter" but it dOES mean change.. i just meant that it seems humanity will remain relatively stagnant in terms of development (or any sort of change) until: 1) we are isolated into smaller breeding groups where changes actually have a chance to spread/make a difference AND/OR 2) greater inviromental stresses (w/ the super-pampered life in most of teh world (even developing world) we dont have many chances to actually have an advantage.. even if we WERE smarter (or some other mutation) life is so easy for everyone that others would have just as much chance to pass on genes. yes, i realize life is very difficult in the huge majority of the world (compared to life in north america/europe) but its still pretty easy compared to most animals.. where the large majority of offspring dont even make it to adulthood.. |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-25 04:41 [#00074720] | |||||||||
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i meant "Environmental" |
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m on 2002-01-25 09:43 [#00074766] | |||||||||
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I'm glad other people are realizing this. read "evolution isn't what it used to be" the last chapter. lying is common among life forms. for example an angler fish (i recon they're called) has a worm like biological organ on the end of a long thingy on their face and they dangle it in front of their victims, thus lying that it is a worm and devouring them. mutation is the driving force in evolution. It just happens that the copying process of dna isn't perfect. I don't remember or know much of the specifics but "point mutations" etc, where the genetic replication gets a bit fucked results in phenotypes which are a bit fucked, sometimes these weirdos happen to succeed by blind witless chance and they therefore produce more offspring in a higher ratio and pass these genes. what chances are there that a mutation will be beneficial? hardly any, if you think about it obviously. so anyway, we are still mutating, our species. but no one is getting selected. we're fucked and doomed and whatnot. we're against the very process that created us. we're antibiological. civilization... I predict an epic action will take place to balance the equilibrium because it's currently unstable. |
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Loogie from UK on 2002-01-25 12:35 [#00074806] | |||||||||
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*plucks nasal hair* |
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laughable butane bobby on 2002-01-25 13:02 [#00074813] | |||||||||
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my dog tries to lie all the time. she is a brat. |
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AMinal on 2002-01-25 13:58 [#00074832] | |||||||||
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lol |
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Nathan Fritz from Morgantown/WV/USA on 2002-01-25 21:01 [#00074935] | |||||||||
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Umm... actually, there's a rather important difference between trickery and lies. Trickery is avoiding the truth. Lying is telling a falsehood. Big difference. |
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conacure from Alaska on 2002-01-25 23:36 [#00074956] | |||||||||
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opinion seems to be coherent with logic here (and vice versa) |
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evolume from seattle, wa on 2002-01-26 00:00 [#00074959] | |||||||||
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for a thread titled "..." this got stupid a long time ago |
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conacure from Alaska on 2002-01-26 06:09 [#00075022] | |||||||||
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Why such a vague topic title? -I was eager to see which direction it would go. |
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laughable butane bob on 2002-01-26 06:35 [#00075031] | |||||||||
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i wish i was dead. life is so fucking overated and boring. bleh. |
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borix on 2002-01-26 17:08 [#00075084] | |||||||||
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You can only rate your own life. So it seems to me that you underrate your own life. |
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