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theo himself
from +- on 2004-10-01 17:36 [#01350419]
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I like it. surprisingly. though that maynard-james keenan kid is actually an artist, no? not just some metal idiot.. he has good ideas and is respected as an artist.. or am I off on that?
anyway the drastic shift in tone of this song is quite appropriate.. I was hoping I'd see a cover of something from the imagine album this year - as that album is now (2004) far more relevant than it has ever been. it's almost as if the 1971 version is saying "this is what we could have if we just stop what we're doing now" and the 2004 version is saying "this is something we'll never ever have because we ddidn't stop what we were doing and we continue to do it.." (?) it's like a dirge/elegy for lennon's ideals
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-01 17:52 [#01350426]
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i really dislike this. its not at all subtle and adds nothing to the original. i'm not even a huge fan of the original song, but its simplicity was a virtue. this one is overblown in all the wrong ways.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-10-01 18:00 [#01350436]
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Come on, as you well know, there is no such thing as a perfect circle. My maths teacher told me.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-10-01 18:37 [#01350470]
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It's pretty dire, just what I expected and feared... the dreaded reversal of tones, as subtle as the apocalypse. But I guess that's the point. Man, do I ever hate those MASSIVE drums. And there were too many nice little touches removed from it, like that ascending piano line and the nice understated segue into the ''you many say I'm a dreamer'' part. Now... the mix just gets a bit louder and denser. No charm. And the piano just sounds uncharismatic now, doesn't resonate or do anything except play chords, it doesn't sound like it's made out of ivory... the original had a nice fat sound to it.
I could go on all day about what I don't like about this new take on Imagine, but it wouldn't matter much since these complaints aren't universal and I know a lot of people that like this cover. I don't think it's horrible, or that Maynard's heart wasn't in the right place, but this is just boring, no surprises here. I don't put much stock into the ''different cultural context'' argument, so it's the music that fumbles it for me. I think John would snicker at it/is snickering at it. I hope they had more fun with the other covers on the album.
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-10-01 19:05 [#01350495]
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I think the fact that it's a john lennon song automatically made for a drastically/diametrically distinct cover version (in terms of tone and its complete disregard for any of the original music) most people when covering beatles/lennon usually expect or feel they're expected to stick to the script and not waiver. so this might be a play on that.. not being over reverential to the original just because it's john lennon's .. they might've overdone it, but for some reason it works for me.. I really don't know a lot about tool/perfect circle
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-10-01 19:15 [#01350499]
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obvousley.
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