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I think I'll post a sample of the Heroe's track just to make a point on how big a difference there is. |
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Check it out. It's a 10 sec sample off the original cd from 2:30-2:40. If you can't hear a difference you need better speakers/ears. |
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this is interesting nice work |
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i was not saying that you can never hear a difference... just that you can nowadays encode in really good quality and that this whole discussion is a bit idiological sometimes. an interesting thing you found there.. |
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poirot will be shaking in his boots! |
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if its loud enough, you can hear 25 khz... out of all people you should know elusive! |
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um, that wav there is way quieter than my 160kbps mp3 that i ripped from the cd. Mine sounds better |
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Louder does not mean it sounds better. That wav is from the japanese cd that has the original track. Maybe you like the dull sounding version on 26 mixes and thats fine, but perhaps listen to the sound quality and not the volume. |
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That's pretty piss-poor. I mean, it's one thing if they couldn't find the masters for some of the tracks, and the only source of the track still available is an mp3, so they used it, but it is inexcusable if a fan can find an original copy and compare to the album version, but the label was too lazy to find an original copy, and just took the easy way out. And I'm sure there's a few other remixes that Rich has done, floating around, that never got released, for one reason or another. But we all know it can be very dangerous for the aficionados to hear anything new to them or unreleased. |
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There were several remixes that did not make it onto 26 Mixes as well as several that were shortened for the release. Seefeel - Polyfusia - 09 Time to Find Me (AFX Slow Mix) Gavin Bryars & Aphex Twin - Raising the Titanic - 01 Raising the Titanic (Edit) Jesus Jones - Zeroes & Ones - 04 Zeroes & Ones (Aphex Twin Reconstruction Mix #1) Nav Katze - Never Mind the Distortion - 02 Ziggy (Aphex Twin Mix #1) Beck - The New Pollution (Disc 1) - 02 Richard's Hairpiece (Remixed by Aphex Twin) Meat Beat Manifesto - Mindstream - 05 Mindstream (The Aphex Twin Remix) Saint Etienne - Who Do You Think You Are - 03 Who Do You Think You Are (quex-rd) Soft Ballet - Twist and Turn - 10 Sand Lowe (Polygon Window Remix) None of those are on the cd's. |
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Ah, that beck remix is shit anyway. I wouldn't care if i never heard it again. Despite not even having 26 wanks for cash, i'm glad it's not on there. |
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Urghh.. mp3 sourced stuff being released officially. I didn't even think this were possible. I mean how stupid. Did the masters disappear into Richard's bank vault never to be found......... |
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Maybe they lost some of the cd's? After the Heroes remix was on a 3" cd. Must have been misplaced in their mountains of cd and demos. |
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you don't actually hear a certain tone in that range but you can tell that something is there. how much this depends on the setup (background noise of the speakers below that frequency and such) i can't tell. we measured thing actually |
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"if its loud enough, you can hear 25 khz... out of all people you should know elusive! " um, no. |
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seriousloy, what the fuk man,,,,,,,,,,,, |
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Cheffe1979, so do we now need to start discussing and arguing just what exactly is "hearing" i hope now |
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i really don't care, mate how are things going with your hardrive btw? |
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oh and i think we have the same person in our avatars |
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oh and chances are that mentioned guys would only pretend to hear something. wahtever |
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whatever hapenned this thread has meant the best reading in this mB in many days and I learnt a lot |
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of course the originals were on RDJ's lost laptop |
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this thread made want to listen to the album... I amnow with cd1 its great really |
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i regret the day i have to complete my aphex collection by buying this, as saw 1 and 2 as well, since i think this is all crap |
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they all have historic value though :) |
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well.... saw 1 and 2 is not crap really.... its more like... a total masterpiece |
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i have on now, and i think it's just so so |
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on is another masterpiece I think all that richard did till 95 is pretty much the best music one can find aphex music is not perfect... but it doesnt need to be perfect to be the most exciting and beautiful |
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Cheffe, you have ME in your avatar, and my hdd is outa commission, still waiting to do data recovery on it (attempt) but i've been so busy I haven't had time to sit down for 5hours and sort it all out :/ soon... |
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and Cheffe, i agree with youthat people AREN'T hearing those freqs, but noise from the speakers. Not sure how J4roen is hearing 25khz because he "turned it louder" ... ok ? but iknow what you're saying. I'm referring to the very sensitive devices that output those frequencies in the testers |
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A cd's frequency range is only 22,500hz. I think most people could here the difference between something that has no frequencies above 16Khz and the same thing with frequencies up to 22Khz. Check the sample I posted with the same section form the 26 Mixes version and it's very obvious. Either way i just goes to show WAPR got lazy and that record companies may as well continue using mp3's for sources since a lot of people seem to think they sound "better" and other can't tell. |
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stil waiting for jaroen to explain "if its loud enough, you can hear 25 khz... out of all people you should know elusive!" seriously. |
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Selected Ambient Works 1 and 2? You're so fucking out of it. |
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okay i like 85-92 :) it's not real ambient imo |
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