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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-09-21 02:03 [#01341041]
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OK - Ive seen this film atleast 7 times now and I think that im starting to truly understand it somewhat.. (ha), but I was wondering everyones thoughts on this? And I know that people out there truly understand this film or so Ive been told... So tell me if you know!
As well this curiousty just comes from the obvious answers when watching this film...
- Does He (the jazz player) murder Renee (the jazz players wife)? Because he goes to jail for it, but later in the film you see her alive and she gets named by Dick larent as renee....
- But..... considering what I said above the creepy guy tells the jazz player that if the BLONDE (alice) told him that her name was Alice that she was lying because she is really RENEE...
-When the two detectives see the picture in the dead pornographers house it only has RENEE in it and NOT Alice like when the Mechanic boy sees the picture. And she (alice) points out to it as if Renee wanst in the pic and says "thats me" and points to her blone self.
-The creepy guy tells the jazz player earlier on when there seem to be two creepy guys and one is at the party and the other in the jazz players hour, he says that "im never where Im not wanted" as if to mean something... and the jazz player met him in his house without remembering when he had that "Dream" and he saw the creepy guys face on Renees....
I mean there are a million clues or are they even clues? I dunno .. someone explain it to me...
"I dont like Video Cameras because I like to remember things how they really happened... or how I think they happened".
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-09-21 02:06 [#01341045]
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I don't like this film much
It's a little to crazy for me
I always get it mixed up with Jacobs Ladder for some reason =o\
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-21 02:46 [#01341055]
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I am hungover and thus cannot give you a detailed explanation, all I can say is that the guy is living in a nightmare which shifts realities dealing with his emotions, it's a neverending loop where he lives out his fantasies and tries to change his "life" for the better but ultimately fails because of guilt. Or something like that.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-09-21 02:51 [#01341059]
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it's easy!
I just saw the film two days ago...
the jazz-player found out that his wife used to fuck Dick Laurent and play in his porn, and then he found out that the mechanic used to be in love with her. They figure that she's pretty fucked up or the devil or something, and decide to kill her. The jazz-player does the plotting and the mechanic does the action.. however, the jazz-player is pinned for the action, and when he is in jail he starts regretting, thus invoking the bad dream about what happened in the days before he got the message "dick laurent is dead." When he, as himself is telling himself that, he is really the mechanic, it's just that in his dream he substituted himself for the mechanic.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-21 07:03 [#01341176]
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Fred (the jazzplayer) and Pete (the mechanic) are the same person. halfway through the film Fred goes into a form of psychosis known as psychogenic fugue (a fugue being "a musical form composed for multiple instruments or voices in which the subject is announced in one voice and then developed by another.") and lives the life he would've liked as Pete in his mind.
David Lynch has pretty much admitted to as much. ofcourse this is only a bit of the story and it's never as simple.
the "Dick Laurent is dead" scene comes from something that really happened to Lynch. one morning someone rang his bell, he went to the intercom and heard someone saying "Dick Laurent is dead". it takes him a while to get to the other side of the house to see who's out there and by the time he gets there the person who rang is gone.
just read this on IMdb: In a recent interview, director Lynch confessed that Lost Highway and Twin Peaks take place in the same world.
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ghostdog
from Limerick (Ireland) on 2004-09-21 07:45 [#01341217]
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everything after the prison happens in the jazz players mind as he tries to make a better reality for himself with his wife in an attempt to mask his guilt for the murder. The bit at the end where his head shakes in the car etc. is him going to the electric chair in real life.....
The plot to mulholland drive is very similar when you think about it - alternate reality constructed in a dream by a guilty mind.....
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-09-21 08:15 [#01341238]
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mulholland drive was rubbish
I thought the film was much better when I didn;t know wtf was going on. Once it was explained to me I was so dissapointed
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warh0l
from <----- on 2004-09-21 08:21 [#01341246]
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i remember a guy telling me all about it online a WHILE back, talking about shapeshifters and vampires....
all in all, i thought the movie was good, i like Pullman. Serpent and the Rainbow waas really good.
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ghostdog
from Limerick (Ireland) on 2004-09-21 09:27 [#01341291]
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well theres still a lot in mulholland drive that still doenst make sense, like what the hell about that homeless dude, and the old midget couple at the end ???
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-09-21 10:35 [#01341368]
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lost highway is a great film. there are some interesting interpretations here.
i think of david lynch as a surrealist director. i don't think you're supposed to apply logic to his films in the way one normally would, since they are based on subconcious events rather than literal ones. so, i don't think it's right to try and impose literal translations of the characters or events in the film, since all the symbols form one work.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-21 11:04 [#01341398]
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Aye. His movies are sensual rather than intellectual. Interesting interpretations for sure... I had never even attempted to work this one out.
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fungusman
from Monster Island on 2004-09-21 11:56 [#01341489]
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The only reason why they made this movie was to sell a soundtrack.
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nacmat
on 2004-09-21 12:53 [#01341533]
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and a great one
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big
from lsg on 2004-09-21 22:40 [#01341896]
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in a recent interview david lynch atmitted lost highway kinda sucked, and in fact of of his movies do exept erasorhead. he still enjoys the soundtrack though and he thinks introducing rammstein to america is one of his greatest achievements
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-09-21 22:43 [#01341898]
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You speak from your anus, son.
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big
from lsg on 2004-09-21 22:55 [#01341902]
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*prrrft you ever fart on "it"?
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-09-21 23:06 [#01341907]
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i'm a big fan of this eraserhead synopsis:
...Hi. Right so basically, a woman gives birth to an alien, a chicken on a plate starts dancing, and this woman with hamster cheeks comes out of the radiator and sings a song. The guy thinks "omg" and his head falls off. It's the best film I've ever seen.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-09-22 01:51 [#01341957]
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Fuck.. Lost Highway was a great film.. er is.... is a great film
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