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acyl18 from the other places on 2002-01-22 08:04 [#00073398] | |||||||||
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so who's experienced with the psychtropic substances? which ones? experiences? |
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m on 2002-01-22 08:06 [#00073399] | |||||||||
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doom2, street fighter 2, sonic the hedgehog |
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titsworth_courier from washington, dc on 2002-01-22 08:20 [#00073405] | |||||||||
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life is nothing but a shadow without your sunshine |
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Xanatos from NYC on 2002-01-22 08:30 [#00073408] | |||||||||
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lsd, psilocybin (mushrooms). Many experiences, many revelations. Although I have pretty much entirely quit doing drugs (including pot), I am still looking to do a controlled LSD session with some close friends, a little bit like the "Acid Tests" done in the 60s. I have not really found the right setting, nor the right people who want to do it for the right reasons (personal and spiritual exploration) yet...I'm not going to do it nonchalantely like I have in the past. If you live (or want to come to the) NY area to do this :)...music would of course be an essential part of it. |
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m on 2002-01-22 08:34 [#00073412] | |||||||||
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if you want to come to my hut and play sonic the hedgehog, you're not invited because the time you spend playing could be spent playing myself. |
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Xanatos from NYC on 2002-01-22 08:35 [#00073415] | |||||||||
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funny stuff, funny, funny stuff. |
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acyl18 from the other places on 2002-01-22 08:49 [#00073422] | |||||||||
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similar to Xanatos, but pretty much all lsd.... a LOT of it. I'm a different person now, with all manner of new neural pathways mosaiced through my brain, and I am grateful for it! It's been a while now, though.... we'll see what the new year brings, eh? By the way, this is why I post as being from the other places.... the person I am today has been educated deeply by those places! ;)= |
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wizards teeth on 2002-01-22 09:54 [#00073439] | |||||||||
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does lsd allow you to think in new ways ? ie - does it alter the structure of the brain ? |
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jand from Essex on 2002-01-22 10:05 [#00073440] | |||||||||
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yep, I think most people who take Acid are different people afterwards...I really don't think you can go though such an extreme experience and not be changed... wiz, if you want a great read about LSD & it's history have a look at Tom Wolfes The Electric Kool Aid Acid Test...its the story of Ken Kesey (better known as the writer of One Flew Over the Cuckoos nest) & his early experiments with LSD & subsequent adventures with the Merry Pranksters....(It's the best bit of US History!!!).. X - I dig the idea of reviving the Acid Tests!!! Wish I was over in NYC...:( |
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wizards teeth on 2002-01-22 10:38 [#00073446] | |||||||||
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I have always wanted to try it but i am scared it may cause damage I like the idea of altering the internal structure of the brain to allow for new methods of thinking Is there not a risk that it could all go pear shaped ? I dont think it is worth the risk, as I like to be sane |
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jand from Essex on 2002-01-22 11:12 [#00073450] | |||||||||
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Could it go pear-shaped?...mmm, if you've already got mental health problems then yep, Acid could cause you problems...but from what I know of you, I doubt you'd have any worries...I messed up a couple of trips in the past by being overly anxious & worried (easily solved by getting some Valium or other Benzodiazephene down your neck)... At lot of the problems with LSD can be worked around by ensuring you know what you're up to and don't go into the experience with no idea of what to expect or with people you don't know or trust... For a first timer, it may be a good idea to trip with someone more experienced you really really trust...some people recommend having a trip nanny (someone who isn't tripping) to keep an eye on things, deal with the day2day things and comfort anyone who needs it.. Its a good idea to find out more or do a bit of reading beforehand if you are a little nervous...that Acid Test book is a good starter...Theres some good sites on the Net with trip stories etc... Having said all that, it's an experience I'd recommend... |
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jand from Essex on 2002-01-22 11:15 [#00073451] | |||||||||
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"I like the idea of altering the internal structure of the brain to allow for new methods of thinking".... I'm not sure if it actually alters the internal structure of your brain much beyond the trip itself i.e. you won't find yourself going from a idiot to a genius... It's more like....a goldfish in a bowl, thinking the whole world IS the bowl, suddenly being put into the Sea & seeing the world anew... Not the greatest analogy...but kinda close.. |
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Ketaman on 2002-01-22 15:32 [#00073548] | |||||||||
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Check this site http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp_front.shtml cool experience reports. I'd experienced some psychadelic dugz, but in nowadays I like lucid dreaming (or astral projection, oobe), and for me this is True psychadelic experience, with nearly clear, lucid mind without any chemical. |
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canerfold from minneappleseed on 2002-01-23 04:18 [#00073949] | |||||||||
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sanity is a choice and a matter of will (i believe). lsd and many drugs will often bring out things in people that were burried deep. many times these are things that would be better faced and delt with than ignored, but using drugs often brings on the subconscious too fast for some, which is where bad things happen... but just understanding this alone will help. i think it is key during a pychedelic experience that you try not to deny anything. for instance, when someone has a 'bad trip' often it is an unexplainable painful emotion that has a root somewhere in your personal life and most would try to block it out, which is unhealthy. talking about the 'bad trip' until you begin to understand the source is recomended if you are with people you can be close to... which is a very good thing, tripping with those you are comfortable with rather than people you don't well. more often though hidden feelings of complete ecstasy arise and that is of course something to indulge in :) your brain won't turn to a pear, but the pathways in your brain are probably altered, as they always are being altered. but i think that your consciousness is what ultimately changes the patterns your brain takes on, not the other way around. so please, stay conscious of what it is that you want :) |
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Taxi on 2002-01-23 08:15 [#00073981] | |||||||||
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I played magic a bit when I was younger, but I kicked the habit when I grew up a bit. |
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Xanatos from NYC on 2002-01-23 08:20 [#00073982] | |||||||||
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I played magic too, although I don't see who brought that up in the first place.. |
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Maytag from Durham,NH USA on 2002-01-23 11:58 [#00074019] | |||||||||
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"I've seen the greatest minds of my time turn to mud." Allen Ginsberg "Howl" Syd Barret was responsible for much of Pink Floyd's music and later inspired much of their later stuff after he had to leave the band due to his losing his mind from too much acid. His story is very tragic. He wanted to see beyond, and he truelly did, but somehow he got lost out there and couldn't find his way back. Waters used this tragic scenario for inspiration for many of his compositions like Brain Damage and the entire Wish You Were Here album. Eventually Waters himself began to share the same fate untill his drug use and over indulgence in the rock star lifestyle caught up with him too in became The Wall. Like one bad trip, he encounters all the demons from his life (his wife, his teacher, his mother, his peers) in this big therapy session in some other dimmension and like Syd it was a make or break point for him. Fortunately he made it back, but at the cost of the break up of the band. |
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doki from grmny on 2002-01-23 16:28 [#00074100] | |||||||||
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i say it with good ol´mick jagger: it´s good to let yourself go as long as you get yourself back ... i think that´s the point of it all ... for lsd everything jand says i´d say too, and you must WANT lsd ... i mean not from an addictive point of view, but like that you definitely have to want to loose your known consciousness for a while - you´re experiencing new truths belonging your reality on lsd, so you have to really want it (especially the first time!) ... if it changes your brain activity? definitely for the time you´re on (without question), but to change it for lifelong times you have to take loads of it ... i´m not talking bout the mind or your perception of the world, cause that changed after the first time for me (positive!!), but about the material structures of your brain ... "lsd is probably me" |
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Intruder from chicago on 2002-01-24 07:48 [#00074358] | |||||||||
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wow. i havent dropped acid in almost six years! not since high school. at first it was because i couldnt get it, because there were only a select few people i got it from that i sort of lost touch with after shool ended. but now i really havent thought about it. I'll smoke a doobie here and there with my fiance, or maybe by myself whilst enjoying some BOC. come to think of it, any one in the chicago area with some, uh, you know... *whisper*....e-mail me.... |
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corngrower from Iowa on 2002-01-24 10:07 [#00074377] | |||||||||
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I've always loved to experiment with my mind, and therefor experiment with psychodelics. Ive had many great acid trips in my life, such as which I do not have time to mention in my curent drunken state, but I love acid, a substance which I have experimented and distributed throughout my comunittee for several years. What I will coment on is my bad trip. My only bad trip ever, which I experienced on shrooms. I was at my house, a house which I lived in with three of my good friends. We moved into this house last summer, and intended it to be a place for good parties and good times. It was that indeed, other than my unfortunate experience. One night, when every one was, gone out, me and one of my roomates who had stayed home, ate some shrooms. This was not the first time I'de tripped, far from it, but this would end up being unlike any trip I'de ever had. |
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corngrower from Iowa on 2002-01-24 10:42 [#00074382] | |||||||||
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At about 11pm, my roomate and I were getting pretty bored. He suggested that we eat some shrooms which he had been saving, and watch natural born killers (which is one of the trippiest movies ever). He busted out these shrooms he was saving, a quarter to be exact, and we proceeded to eat an eiqhth each. After that, we were sitting around waiting for them to kick in for like half an hour. We went outside, AND THATS WHEN IT STARTED. It started to hit us both at the same time, and we were running around and laughing or asses off, having a good time. Suddenly, a bug flew into my mouth. I thougt that I swallowed it, but then I felt it crawling up my throught. Suddenly, it started burrowing into my adams apple. I was chocking and coughfing, trieing to get it out. My roomate was helping me, reashuring that there was no bug in my throught, the shrooms were just fucking with me. But I felt it in my throught, and I was sure that it was in their, and I had to get it out. I started kind of freaking out, and though my roomate was trying to comfort me, he was also tripping his balls off, so my ordiel was fucking with him enoghf. Next thing I know, I was puking my guts out in our bathroom. The hole time, I was in my mind trying to get this creature out of my throught. When I was done with a long punking ordeal, I looked into the toilet at my puke. What I expected, was the usuall vomite, but what I saw made my skin crawl. It was pink and red, and in the puke, was what looked to my like peices of my lungs, along with a small phetic like orgasim, which seemed to be swimming around. I started freaking out, and pointing it out to my roomate, WHO SAW IT AS WELL. I ran to my room and colapsted on my bed, pulling my head into my chest and hoping it was all a bad dream. At this time, my roomate was trying to call some of our friends, trying to find a sober person to come and help us out. Meanwhile, I was being victom to the most horrofing holusionasations of my life, pardon my bad spelling. I was seeing strange visions and hearing strang voices, most of which I cannot recall. One thing I do recall from this time, was a vision of what I now think was an african woman in garmets, sitting with her child and husband in her arms, both of them slowly dieing of disease. She was looking strait at me, crying and screaming out for help, please. I think. I started puking uncontrollolobly. Next thing I new, I was lying in the local hospitals emergancy room, thorsean being pumped into my vains. My dad told me that some friends had gived me a ride there and droped me off at the emergency room. The people in the ER said that I wandered in with my arms around my stomach, moaning, "they're here for me, please help me!" or something along those lines. They thought I was another alchol poisoning, since it is a University town and they see that alot. They finally found out I was on shrooms, and since I was totally conciounse, I had to manually pump my own stomach. If you dont know, when they pump your stomach, they actually put a tube down your throght, into your stomach, which pumps charchoal into your stomach, the charchoal nuetralizing the poisoning substance. But they only do that when the patiente is unconsiouse. I was consiounce, unfortunatly. Therefore, I had to drink charcoal. Now think about this for a second. What I have tried to describe to you is the most intense and horrofining state of mind Ive ever been in. And to top it off, I was forced to drink a think, chunky, black liquid, while in the most intense trip ever. After I did this, and puked black liquid back out for about half an hour, they pumped my full of thoroseen,and i passed out. I woke up the next morning, with my parents sitting next to me in the hospital bed. My dad said that when he got there, I was holding his had tight as hell and sobing, saying, "thank god your hear!" over and over again. Later I found that the shrooms which I had ate had been sitting in my roomates closet for over a month, and had probably grown exec mold on them. Even though this was the most horrofieing experience of my life, it still helped me to gain a new perspective on my life and the human mind. I now realise that, as you can experiement with the amazing mind that you have, you never really now how far your going till youve fallen over the edge, and though you can gain mass realasation of ones self through psychadelics, you can also go passed the boundaries of your mind, to places which are not ment to be seen. I saw those places that august night, and though the memories are foggy, what I remember was not all that pleasant. The message I am trying to give is not one against experementing with psychadelics, but rather a insite into what such experements can really lead to, and if your really ready for the possibilities of what the outer reaches of your mind will bring. |
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corngrower from Iowa on 2002-01-24 10:49 [#00074384] | |||||||||
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Sorry if that wasnt as clear as I wanted it to be, but I was typing fast, and I couldnt describe everything as well as I would like to, with those CRAZY EYES glaring at me from the corner of the screen. |
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corngrower from Iowa on 2002-01-24 10:52 [#00074386] | |||||||||
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I hope to soon right a book about this experience (there is so much more to it, but I dont have the attention span right now). |
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corngrower from Iowa on 2002-01-24 10:53 [#00074387] | |||||||||
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Thank you for you attention bye |
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doki from grmny on 2002-01-24 13:27 [#00074421] | |||||||||
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damn dick man, i want one of this book! no, serious, glad that it´s gone out like this ... something like this can cause you bad psychosis if you´re unlucky! you described it so well, i could really imagine the fucking bug in my throat ... :) but it´s no surprise when the shrooms where lying to long unvacuumed - what´s that thing you wrote when they grow melch(?) on it?? (i´m german) hmm, anyway take care next time that it´s FRESH!!! ;-) what happened to your friend? |
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jand from Essex on 2002-01-24 14:00 [#00074426] | |||||||||
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Cornblower...thanks for your story... Like you, the only Bad Trip I'd had was on mushrooms...& that was a real suprise as they are supposed to be mild...in fact, when getting them out, my mate said she'd doubt they'd be enough to go around (amoungst 4 of us...)... It didn't help that I knew my partner was at work and due back in 2-3 hrs... plus...watching fukcing James Bond on TV really was the pit at the bottom of the pit.... but yeah, these sort of incidents are rare, and didn't put me further trips etc...sometimes a Bad trip can tell you as much as a good one... Glad you came out of it ok in the end... |
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ken from ken on 2002-01-24 15:29 [#00074448] | |||||||||
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mate of mine was so pilled up that he started ordering taxi's on the dancefloor in a club.. bets i ever had was on acid and these twelve astronauts came into my bedroom carrying monitors and surrounded my bed in silence... |
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acyl18 from the other places on 2002-01-25 18:46 [#00074897] | |||||||||
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wow. I'mm so impressed with this thread- lots of good insight, and a fucking well-told story, too. My best and worst experiences were during the same trip- I think it was a 10-strip of acid.... all the shit buried down deep came up, like it does, and manifested in some awful shit! I dealt with it somehow, and was granted passage to an ultimate state of existence, a Love State, if you will, for which I'm eternally grateful... I've got to write it all down, too... though it's been 7 years since it happened, I think I've still got a lot of it.... I've heard/ read that while you're still recieving the same sensory input, you're experiencing different 'peices' of it.. we only normally percieve a small chunk of the shit that's actally happening all around us, and LSD can expose different parts.... and impose your own thoughts onto your visual, auditory reality, too... |
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J198 from The Netherlands on 2002-01-25 20:58 [#00074934] | |||||||||
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the LSD FAQ. all the answers to all the questions. I've been into mushrooms for a while now but never thought about trying lsd, because like Wizard's Teeth i thought it would fuck up your brains. Read the FAQ and decide afterwards. http://leda.lycaeum.org/Documents/LSD_FAQ.8751.shtml |
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Xanatos from NYC on 2002-01-25 21:15 [#00074937] | |||||||||
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corngrower nutty story, out of curiousity, did something actually fly into your throat? |
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pOgO from Wales on 2002-01-25 22:50 [#00074952] | |||||||||
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I'm amazed at how badly some people spell on here |
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corngrower from Iowa on 2002-01-26 00:10 [#00074964] | |||||||||
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I said to excuse my bad spelling, I was drunk and typing fast, and didn't really care at the time |
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pOgO from Wales on 2002-01-26 00:55 [#00074976] | |||||||||
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by the way, that last statement by pOgO was from Jarworski. he forot to change the name............... he's drunk !! |
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Mr. Mindfuck on 2002-01-26 02:16 [#00074992] | |||||||||
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Acid and Aphex... Two great tastes that taste great together. The first time that I ever heard Aphex was when a buddy of mine played I Care Because You Do from start to finish while we were frying balls. To say the least, it blew my mind. |
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Rustopher Krussel from New York on 2002-01-26 03:45 [#00075006] | |||||||||
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I've done mushrooms once, lsd once, and some lsa. |
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MO 2 on 2002-01-26 06:21 [#00075028] | |||||||||
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Go to www.vaultsoferowid.com and look up mushrooms or acid |
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MO 2 on 2002-01-26 06:23 [#00075029] | |||||||||
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sorry, wrong address.....go to http://www.erowid.org/index.shtml |
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BlatantEcho on 2002-01-26 07:08 [#00075040] | |||||||||
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reading all the trip reports that site blows my mind. I keep reading about people who do Heroin from time to time, and the people who drop X like cough drops. I'm with Ophecks when he says he wants a bit more from life. I want more out of life than what a hip little pill tricks me into feeling. his words: "I can't stand partys and drugs and all that... I know lots of people that do that, I could do that tonite if I wanted, but that's too easy. I want MORE, dammit, MORE!" but i do enjoy reading all the trip reports, definite sweetness. this was all just my hair brained opinon of course BlatantEcho |
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canerfold from minneappleseed on 2002-01-26 08:05 [#00075052] | |||||||||
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If you truely want MORE, than you can have it. No drugs are necessary, just go get it and leave the unnecessary steps behind. |
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pOgO from Wales on 2002-01-26 16:57 [#00075082] | |||||||||
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In the words of Bill Hicks: "I've had some great times on drugs........ sorry !" |
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I've began writing a book now about that night... so many things that were going on in my head it's insane... Anyone got any weird trip stories these days? |
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i guess weed ain't too psychadelic i am gonna get some shrooms one of these days thats my limit though, only natural shite can be taken by me |
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Be causious though.... Read my short story in this thread and you'll know why. |
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did your parents flip shits? |
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ooooooo yeah |
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i heard about shrooms and possible poisons. if you let them grow too long and they get a slight purple tint, then they can kill you. never heard of fungus growing on them. |
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Zombiekev: Sometimes the natural stuff is the msot dangerous... |
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definetly... never had a bummer on acid before |
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I don't buy that natural theory. Acid is extracted from some sort of mold or fungus. There are plenty of natural things that will kill. The natural test is WAY too simplified. Besides, who says humans aren't a part of nature? Some are afraid of mushrooms, some afriad of acid. The experience has much to do with belief. Weed is definitely psychedelic if you are open to it. The key is sensitivity I think. And the fact that I smoke on very rare occasion. |
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Speaking of Mold & things growing on stuff... Apparently LSD occurs naturally (or a very close compound) in a mould that grows on Wheat and other foodstuffs..This stuff is known as Argot & has a very similar effect to LSD... I saw a program about how they suspect that the whole of Salem witch trials and associated hysteria were caused by this stuff growing on the towns supplies of wheat.. I'll see if I can dig up a link.... |
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