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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-08 19:28 [#01329014]
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I can't really speak on the Russian issue simply because I am young, uneducated on the issue, and most respectively, dont live in the area under their control.
Why do you think I have yet to really "post" in that thread under any kind of arguement...cause I have no right to speak against what you have said.
I wish others would appreciate the same technhique
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-08 19:30 [#01329015]
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And while were on the subject, everyone assumes I voted for Bush last round.
Just goes to show ya'
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-08 19:38 [#01329022]
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I don't see why "asshole" would make sense, but "arsehole" wouldn't.
perhaps both are derogatory terms but with different etymological backgrounds? so they are both derogatory but mean something different, except that ass also means the buttocks?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-08 19:40 [#01329023]
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I wouldn't find that kind of material worth commenting on.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-08 19:42 [#01329024]
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everyone assumes
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-08 19:44 [#01329026]
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ASS -U - ME
ass out of you and me?
duh
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-08 19:44 [#01329030]
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Commenting on 250+million people and putting them into one catagory is quite an accomplishment.
Please notify me when you are awarded with your Nobel Prize.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-08 20:01 [#01329067]
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It's unfair that that particular geometric pentagon should get all the attention, by being referred to as "the pentagon", with all the other fine pentagons in this world.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-08 20:04 [#01329077]
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...............really not that type or quality of reply I was hoping for.
I've ran out of ideas to contradict the "snopes" article.
I was hoping you guys were thinking more outside the box and were to come up with a few key points of interest that i had overlooked.
Hopefully.........
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-08 20:05 [#01329080]
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i was quoting you, moron. look a few posts up.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-08 20:06 [#01329082]
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just goes to show ya
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-08 20:10 [#01329089]
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Erm, did you not read the post right below yours?
yeah, ok ? so i didnt vote for bush, you want some kind of proof on it
lol
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-08 20:14 [#01329099]
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read this slowly. what the fuck are you talking about?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-08 20:19 [#01329113]
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read this at your usual reading level.
edit: nevermind, kindergarden is out for the day
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-08 20:26 [#01329128]
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i'm sure it all makes sense to you. presumably you don't want people to understand you.
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diablo
on 2004-09-08 21:28 [#01329217]
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who needs conspiracies? the bush admin puts money for the rich above the lives of the poor (the world over)
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-09-09 06:13 [#01329378]
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oh, joy, another anti-american thread filled with sweeping generalizations. Yeah, I'll be reading every bit of this one. ehem.
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dingle berry
from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2004-09-09 07:25 [#01329439]
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im not anti american i just dont like the new roman empire thats covering most of our planet with consumer crap!!!!!!
as for that plane thingy yep where are the wings and burning fuel????
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-09 07:40 [#01329464]
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burnt to a crisp and shattered into a bzillion little pieces, scattered in with concrete, glass, telephones and peices of people's moms and dads.
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dingle berry
from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2004-09-09 07:44 [#01329467]
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and how do you regenerate a lawn that should have burned to a crisp?
i hate conspiracy theorys!
im still turning over the moon landing and the jfk shooting in my heed
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-09-09 10:56 [#01329689]
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so you think some one lunatic with a shitty rifle shot the president from three different directions within seconds? I know not to trust any govt explanation esp. on matters like this because of the jfk hit
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-09-09 13:49 [#01329837]
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good talk.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-09 13:51 [#01329844]
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what kind of discussion are you wanting to have?
a copy and paste-athon from radical sites on either side of various conspiracies?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-09 14:00 [#01329850]
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Sigh,
and tupac is still alive, right?
sheesh...give it a rest already.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2004-09-09 14:01 [#01329853]
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keke
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-09-09 14:39 [#01329895]
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no.
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-09-09 14:40 [#01329897]
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/020403vonbulow.mp3
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-09-09 14:46 [#01329909]
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listen to this.. he's got a funny texan voice, yes, but you won't be able to dispute any of the things they talk about simply because they're all documented facts.. and many/most from mainstream sources ..so HAH
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-09 14:52 [#01329919]
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i'm listening.
i find this stuff fascinating, but the problem with conspiracy theories is that once you start buying into them it kinda snowballs, and in order to believe in any of them you have to distrust everything any authority figure says, believe everything every wacko says, and pretty much believe that everyone on the planet is in on some massively global plot to trick YOU.
faking something as massive as 9/11 is just too much for our fucking incompetent gov't to pull off... let alone coordinate with several other incompetent governments on.
the kennedy assasination is a much more plausible scenerio.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-09 14:54 [#01329921]
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being anti-establishement is just so hip that people will accept just about any concocted plot that says the establishment is full of shit.
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-09-09 15:03 [#01329927]
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it's called confirmation bias.. I know.. but there's no good reason to close yourself off to facts if they support an argument one doesn't want to believe or thinks is too farfetched
9/11 is not too hard for the govt to handle.. look at some of the things the CIA has done in the past! look at the civil war they literally engineered in order to create panama so they'd get the canal. there are corporations that have employed thousands that have been fronts for anti communist intel gathering in S. America.. one of my friend's grandfather worked for ITT who were instrumental in the assassination of Salvadore Allende in Chile because he was tied to Castro and there was too much copper on the Chilean coastline for us to not get our hands on.
I never take sides in things like thjis.. I want to hear both versions of the story.. but with this there are too many things that are being kept secret ..but for no good reason.. again, I'm not saying I know what happened. I don't think anyone can at this point.. but I want to get at whatever facts are out there.
the establishment is full of shit that's obvious.. this has nothign to do w/ me being 'hip'
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-09 15:39 [#01329984]
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So you are saying 3000+ people are dead because of an international conspiracy.
Yeah, Ok...please let me know how their families react when you try telling them their husbands, wives, etc dead because of gov. conspiracy.
No.
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-09-09 15:51 [#01329994]
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that's exactly what I'm saying. what are you saying? you don't even know why you believe what you believe. listen to that interview and dispute even ONE thing and I might consider your argument.. whatever that might be
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-09-09 15:53 [#01329997]
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and what would be wrong with saying that by the way? they're just trying to get their carlysle money and the most out of the 4-8 years that their ne'er do well son stole.. why not? it.. like everything else.. is all about money
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-09 16:11 [#01330018]
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And did you feel the same way about the flash file....UNTIL you read the snopes article?
I was pretty intrigued ... until i did some research.
I see where yuo are going with this, I don't deny any "fowl play" (get it, fowl) but you know : /
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-09 16:48 [#01330067]
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what a bunch of
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corrupted-girl
on 2004-09-09 19:03 [#01330306]
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Of course it's shitty about what happened, but I think the fact that a lot of people believe that it was a conspiracy is sad. That only says soo much about the American government.
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-09-09 20:05 [#01330380]
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it might be 20 to 30 years from now, but eventually a good amount of people will find that the gov't was either proactively assissting this "suprise" attack or they allowed it to happen. at this point, 56% of new yorkers.. or the ones polled at least, believe the government could have done something about it but failed
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-09-09 20:06 [#01330384]
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And did you feel the same way about the flash file....UNTIL
you read the snopes article?
I dont get what you're asking.. or what you're referring to there.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-09 20:15 [#01330399]
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If George Bush stood up today and said he remotely controlled those planes into the towers himself, what would happen apart from him being voted back in again?
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-09-09 21:12 [#01330431]
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yeah that's probably what would happen
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-10 05:42 [#01330578]
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i remember watching the crash at the pentagon on 911 and wondering where is the plane? but then dismissing that thought, granted, it was unbelievable that the plane was nowhere to be seen, but then we did see the whole thing on tv, with our own eyes. i chose to trust what i saw on tv.
lately i've been delving into conspiracy sites, notably abovetopsecret.com, and while it's nice (and sometimes downright scary) to read about this shit in the middle of the night, much of it seems bogus.
just now, i was thinking about how the plane seemingly 'disappeared', and i was reminded of the el al plane that struck an appartment buidling in amsterdam in 1992. did the plane disappear there too? yes sir, according to this site
this site has some more info about the el al disaster of 1992. info on this is not widely spread for some reason...
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big
from lsg on 2004-09-10 06:02 [#01330592]
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first i heard they flew into the pentagon and the empire state building, so i can never be really sure the empire state building is still standing
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