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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-09-04 09:37 [#01324151]
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It's become quite a concern of mine recently that my young nephew watched way too much TV. My sister is well aware that he could well be mildly autistic and seems prepared to do anything to help develop him (particularly his speech)... but seems oblivious to the fact he watches too much television.
Now I don't mean all day, his parents do take him out plenty and make sure he gets exercise and everything, but every time I go down there one of these channels are on, and they don't seen to take into account the dangers of being absorbed in something so mindwarping (or at least what I think is mindwarping). I know TV can be plenty beneficial at any age for a number of reasons, but...
I'm wondering, can TV really do that much harm? I asked my mum if I watched TV a lot at his age (4), and she said only an hour or 2 a day (3 or 4 if the weather was bad). Keeping in mind I watched stuff with actual humans and storylines (that are little more complex than going to the beach for a day) rather than stupid-ass cartoons which filled my mind with garbage, giving me this vocabulary that is mistaken for cute.. when all it is is that he has already sat through so much of it the only words he has really learnt are those that have been taught him by these programmes. I'm cool if they're educational and everything, but if you talk to him he regularly spouts out-of-context shit from one of these shows, or phrases in the kind of voice you know has come from the mouths of these patronising characters with pollute the TV screen.
Babbling there, but do you see my point? Is there a chance my nephew will still grow into a a healthy individual, or be corrupted to forever love TV and everything that it pukes out?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-09-04 09:40 [#01324156]
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well, show him the internet.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-09-04 09:44 [#01324159]
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He's too stupid for that.
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uviol
from United States on 2004-09-04 09:47 [#01324161]
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I know there's some decent educational curriculum delivered in many kids' shows.. but usually the vehicle its delivered in (Gullah gullah island? dora the explora'?) seems a bit dubious and potentially mindwarping. But then again, much of my preschool education came from a heterogeneous aggregate of gigantic muppets and a sexually-ambiguous dude in a cardigan sweater.. so who knows.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-09-04 09:49 [#01324164]
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I may well be shit, but if it was just once a day, fine. He probably gets around 6 hours a day.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-09-04 09:51 [#01324168]
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there used to be a thing called "outside"
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-09-04 09:52 [#01324169]
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it's funny you're asking us...there's plenty of addicts here, which is probably even worse than watching too much tv :)
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-09-04 09:54 [#01324172]
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I was really asking about television interfering with childrens' development.
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-09-04 09:55 [#01324173]
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NO ! this is music and what we like, not the bullshit crap they are trying to sell us and the false ideass they are putting into peoples heads every minute
fuck you, i wont do what ya tell me
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-09-04 09:56 [#01324175]
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he's only 4...i wouldn't worry at least untill he's 10.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-09-04 09:57 [#01324178]
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i never watch tv. most of the stuff is even more mind-numbing than the internet.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-09-04 09:58 [#01324180]
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that means: yes, imo watching more than 1-1.5 hours tv per day is bad for a kid.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-09-04 09:58 [#01324181]
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I blame his trouble with speaking on TV.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-09-04 09:58 [#01324182]
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Thank you for your opinion :u)
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-09-04 10:02 [#01324187]
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no, thank YOU for making this wonderful thread.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-09-04 10:05 [#01324192]
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perhaps you could sign him to some group where children who're into cartoons or tv in general do stuff related to it, and something more creative than just to stare at tv all day + he'll be in company of othe kids.
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-09-04 10:05 [#01324194]
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we have no cable, no satelittte, just the basic 6 channel that we get from out intenna, and thats almost to many sometimes
CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT SOME LOSERS, PAY LIKE $50-60 OR MORE FOR 500 CHANNELS.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-09-04 10:07 [#01324195]
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yeah. people are stupid.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-09-04 10:52 [#01324245]
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Yes :u(
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-04 12:02 [#01324360]
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he's four years old.
I bet he's more into the colours, shapes and sounds then the actual stories and/or dialogue anyway.
I wouldn't worry so much..
..yet.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-09-04 12:14 [#01324376]
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sigh
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2004-09-04 12:19 [#01324385]
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I think you should try to help him more. Read to him or play with him more in the garden when he comes over. He obviously really likes you and looks up to you so if you suggested doing something else it would give him someone older to talk to and help his speaking and help develop him a bit.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-04 12:28 [#01324406]
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it's just not that black-and-white a situation.
I mean, most of us will have seen shitloads of dumb cartoons and other crap on tv and most of us have turned into pretty intelligent individuals, who can now clearly define which tv-programmes are crap and which aren't.
I've seen plenty of crappy tv as a youngster and I don't think it has had that much effect on me, yowzers no!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-09-04 13:31 [#01324514]
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I really don't think TV does all that much damage to the young psyche. I know so many people who had/have busy parents, and were sat in front of the tube for hours on end, ad nauseum, but there comes to time when they'll outgrow it. I don't see any lasting effects on my many many younger cousins, I've watched tons of kids grow up, they're all around me all the time, and quite a few of them have at one point been couch potatoes. I have tons and tons of experience with them. They start with TV, and move onto video games, and then onto... well, normalcy. A balance.
I just don't see the problem.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-09-04 13:34 [#01324520]
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He has mild autism. A problem.
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sneakattack
on 2004-09-04 13:35 [#01324521]
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I think watching TV is harmful--it makes people passive participants. In my classes the majority of the room sits silent and becomes catatonic when a question pops up--active interaction in some sort of presentation medium has been lost.
you could argue that one has to already have such a trait to let it be expanded thusly, but in that case I still see it as bad.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-09-04 13:39 [#01324527]
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Block the channels, delete them from the TV's memory so the only way he can get to them would be manually, with the remote. Put the remote in an out of the way spot.
Grit your teeth and brave whatever his reaction is.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-09-04 15:16 [#01324595]
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Well, I'm not his parent, so that's not for me to do. I'm a little anxious about bringing this up with my sister.. she'll probably defend her parenting well enough for me to back down. I'm a crap uncle :u(
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-09-04 16:04 [#01324619]
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Fuck that. Nobody's perfect, no parent can possibly cover all the bases. I often confront my aunts and uncles about my cousins, and tell him they're into this shit and they shouldn't be, or doing this behind your back unbeknownst to you, and I occasionally WILL question, bluntly, their methods. For example, my cousin is a big Grand Theft Auto fan. And he's 6. See the problem? And of course my aunt is totally ignorant on certain medias. He wanted to play my copy of Vice City, and I told him no. Being a spoilt brat, he told my aunt that I was being mean. She confronted me and asked why I'm being such a selfish shellfish, and I told her she's fucking nuts for even considering letting him go near that shit. Totally clueless on this subject, that woman.
Now, in your situation, TV is a different thing, more broad, not as niche. But STILL, that doesn't mean your sister is educated and aware about it (I'm just assuming she's not for the duration of the post, I may be wrong). Has she watched the shows with him, regularly? Or is she too busy to UNDERSTAND what her son is watching/getting influenced by? Parents don't have time to know about this ''kid's stuff'', they don't have time to get a good idea of what their kids are into. And catching a minute or two of it here and there isn't enough to get the whole picture. But you're younger, probably don't have as many responsiblities, and you DO know how dumb and brain numbing some of this shit can be.
If she takes it personally, too bad. How could she POSSIBLY think you're a ''crap uncle'' if you bring up a subject like this? You're clearly not trying to do any HARM to him, and if her ego is dented and she takes it that way, well, tough titties said the kitty. I'm speak up about things like this often, and nobody seems offended. If you're that worried about it, I'd say tell her what's on your mind. What's the worst that can happen? I doubt she'll disown you for voicing a concern like this.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-09-04 17:49 [#01324744]
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You're right. Thanks for the advice.
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