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offline troubleworks from Moscow (Russia) on 2004-08-24 12:31 [#01313317]
Points: 115 Status: Addict



I've been observing the sonographic display of various
music compositions, and sometimes there was this one detail
to be found that I couldn't explain nor understand:

up-to-down symmetry.

Like if there was a line, after which the pattern was
getting mirrored up.

What is it? A trick to enhance the high frequency component?
A distortion of some sort?

Context-close example: first seconds of Autechre's Gantz
Graf, mirror line @ ~14800 Hz.

I've also seen the effect showing much more - on a sample of
my own production, which had its sampling frequency
forcefully reduced by about eight times with no antialiasing
filter involved (done by Logic's “bitcrusher”).
There I saw multiple evenly mirrored copies of one block
repeating vertically.

Why, why, why?

Then, there are some tracks in which the frequency range is
truncated at frequency [x], with the very frequency [x]
present rather brightly, resembling a cut border.

Is there an explanation for this, too?

I could make packs of screenshots, but I'm too lazy. I hope
you people understand my babble clear enough :)


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-08-24 12:54 [#01313344]
Points: 14210 Status: Regular



what is a sonographic display?


 

offline troubleworks from Moscow (Russia) on 2004-08-24 13:07 [#01313350]
Points: 115 Status: Addict | Followup to r40f: #01313344



Spectrogram.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-08-24 14:35 [#01313409]
Points: 14210 Status: Regular



oh, right - i didn't know the correct term for that.

i wish i knew how to answer your questions, but i'm not sure
i understand them, and besides, i'm just not knowledgeable
enough to get into such technical details. sorry.


 

offline gnocelot from Greifswald (Germany) on 2004-08-24 15:24 [#01313446]
Points: 288 Status: Lurker



This really doesn't have anything to do with mastering, you
know. Just the way spectrograms look.

One - that's simply what the spectrum of a signal looks like
if the sample rate is "reduced" that way. If you want to
know exactly why, go learn Fourier analysis.

Two - you've made music and you've never come across a
lowpass filter? They're called that because only low
frequencies pass through unharmed, so to speak, "low"
usually meaning "below a certain frequency". Filters used
for music tend to also have a resoannce parameter of some
sort, which basically means that you can additionally make
the cutoff frequency louder. The magnitude response will
typically be something like this, hence the way a
filtered signal looks in a spectrogram. (imagine that graph
as representing the brightness of a vertical line in one)


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-08-24 20:41 [#01313736]
Points: 12585 Status: Lurker | Followup to troubleworks: #01313317



I think I might be able to help, but I really need a picture
with a big arrow pointing at what your absolutely talking
about. I'm a visual person.


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2004-08-24 22:29 [#01313759]
Points: 6045 Status: Lurker



the user 'sanguine' seems to start random mastering tips
topics here. he may be of some help.


 

offline Chris Ochre on 2004-08-25 06:45 [#01313982]
Points: 570 Status: Lurker



It looks like you're seeing aliasing in action: you get the
normal frequency, plus the second (an alias) higher up, as a
result of sample-rate-reduction or poor oscillator
rendering, hence the name.

That's my guess anyway.


 

online big from lsg on 2004-08-25 06:47 [#01313985]
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so mastering is like fine tuning mixing right?


 

offline dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2004-08-25 06:50 [#01313992]
Points: 2389 Status: Regular



?

have a look in the sound on sound reviews or questions and
answers!


 

offline troubleworks from Moscow (Russia) on 2004-08-25 19:05 [#01314489]
Points: 115 Status: Addict



Thank you a lot guys, you two were really helpful :)

And of course, I'm familiar with lowpass filtering, I just
didn't really know if resonance was a function of the
filtering algorythm or a fancy effect added manually (that
would be kind of silly).



 


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