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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-08-21 02:45 [#01310645]
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Slightly embarassingly self indulgent at times? Sure. But when its workin' it's a virtual handjob. Good album. Bad Person: me. Drunk: yes. Hiccuping: Yes. Idiot?: Yes
I am a bad drunkard idiot who is hiccuping. Havent posted here since they rezzed the JC. So Instead I will... nope.. come to think of it I wont do anything. Gizzard lips!
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-21 04:08 [#01310674]
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I would like it more if he produced as well as he produced D.Y.K.S and GoPlastic. It's got great ideas, but there's somethin wrong with the overall "sound" and I can't place what it is.
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Clic
on 2004-08-21 06:41 [#01310707]
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Poor mastering, bad mixing.
Some neat tunes, though.
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rF
from __e____e_________e______q_____ (Australia) on 2004-08-21 06:45 [#01310709]
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ULTRA FISTER
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-08-21 06:49 [#01310710]
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Bateman?
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Clic
on 2004-08-21 06:51 [#01310714]
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DJ Xammax, ladies and gentlemen.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-08-21 06:51 [#01310716]
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where!?
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Clic
on 2004-08-21 06:54 [#01310719]
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EAT!
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-08-21 06:55 [#01310722]
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Extreme.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-08-21 06:55 [#01310723]
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eat Max EAT!!
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Clic
on 2004-08-21 07:00 [#01310730]
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Well?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-08-21 07:02 [#01310732]
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EAT WELL!!
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-08-21 07:04 [#01310733]
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Oh, okay...
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Clic
on 2004-08-21 07:05 [#01310734]
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Getting the chew on, I see.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-08-21 07:07 [#01310735]
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Like you wouldn't believe
Hey, you're on slsk.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-08-21 07:14 [#01310736]
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Jon doesn't share though.
he hates people.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-21 08:14 [#01310762]
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I like the track that has that trombone solo in it
ROM POM PA POM POM ROM PA POM POM
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-08-21 20:52 [#01311259]
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bump
greatest album for drive thru country on sunny day
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-08-21 21:13 [#01311266]
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agreed
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-08-21 21:54 [#01311280]
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what does, "rezzed the JC" mean?
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xf
from Australia on 2004-08-21 23:10 [#01311289]
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hated the album at first, grown to quite like it. yeah, the poor production put it off initially for me, too.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-08-22 02:30 [#01311316]
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i find myself turning up songs on this album a few notches more than any other album.
jeezous yesterday was fuggin great drive up north...it never left my cd player.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-08-22 02:59 [#01311318]
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I know what you are saying about the sound. It's kinda one demensional. Even though his sound is rooted in layering many different events. I love his stuff. My second favorite, but yes, bad mixing job or something.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-08-22 03:04 [#01311319]
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Maybe it's cause his drum sounds are acoustic kits. They don't get as pronounced as say the pounding percussion in drukqs. He also doesn't do much thick synthy stuff either, lately. Mostly thick reverb which can make things flat.
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2004-08-22 03:49 [#01311327]
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poor mastering...???!? poor mixing...??!??
i think the overall sound is what he(they) wanted, yes you have to turn it up more than all the other overcompressed album that are so loud your hearsd are bored after 20 minutes
i find the sound on ultravisitor very fresh and mastered, there is headroom for the sound effects to rip tru your bones
there is a lot of it that sound so empty yet powerfull, like toward the end of 50 cycles
what you find poor mixing/mastering is to me creative mixing/mastering for once...
end of rant
ps: i don't like half the tunes on it but you can't say it's badly produced
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-08-22 04:28 [#01311330]
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Ok, not bad mixing. I don't know, really. I love his stuff. He's really excellent.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-08-22 05:05 [#01311331]
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Tom knows what he's doing with sound on his albums. Maybe he's not as interested at the over-produced latest dolby aucoustics as a lot of other electronic haeads. He's a bloody musical genious and yous knows its!!!!
He got slated a lot for the DYKS "Alive in Japan" CD. Never understood what the problem was here. Its fanrastic! A live treat from the place Tom most likes to play.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-08-22 05:12 [#01311332]
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1:42 Ultravisitor
Greatest fuking part ever. That damn melody is so far tucked under those snare hits...grrrr, but man i love it!
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-08-22 05:26 [#01311338]
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I think the production sounds fucking awesome. it's the highlight of the album for me, I think everyone is confusing multiple organic sounding layers for mess wishy washy editing,
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-08-22 05:28 [#01311340]
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iambic 9 poetry is my favorite melody on the album. Maybe my favorite track despite the lack of bells and whistles.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-08-22 05:32 [#01311341]
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reverbs can make things sound wishy washy. Pros only like to put it on things in the peripheral sounds. Not things you want up close. So. Sp doesn't care about those conventions.
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Clic
on 2004-08-22 06:36 [#01311359]
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"what you find poor mixing/mastering is to me creative mixing/mastering for once..."
God, I knew someone would say this. I enjoy creative and interesting production tricks. Arab On Radar, early Ruins, Nick Forte, This Heat, etc. Their stuff sounds really rough and that's part of the reason why I like it. Even RDJ Album sounds pretty rustic and nasty in places. I think it's good. I just don't like it on this album.
"Tom knows what he's doing with sound on his albums. Maybe he's not as interested at the over-produced latest dolby aucoustics as a lot of other electronic haeads. He's a bloody musical genious and yous knows its!!!!"
I don't think he's a musical genius. I do think he's very good at what he does, though.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-08-22 06:39 [#01311361]
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ooooh THAT'S what it is!!
silly everyone!
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-08-22 08:57 [#01311417]
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well it was meant to sound live i believe but well i just don't like that sound.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-08-22 21:33 [#01311941]
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the parts that matter are really clean and crisp though, the bass parts of the tracsk have been mastered f**king brilliantly, nice and clear, the beats and synth pads are the only parts that sound like they could have been recorded on a $20 mixer and a tape deck, but the details in the chaos is still really really sharp and crunchy, which leads me to beleive that he has done it for effect,
I don't tihnk it's mastered badly, so much as meant to sound that way, freeform does a similar thing, and I surely don't think that he master his albums badly..
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childkiller
from santiago (Chile) on 2004-08-22 21:42 [#01311946]
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overall: poor some great tunes: yes live feel to it : not
total: + -
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-08-22 22:20 [#01311959]
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steinbolt.
that is all.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-08-22 22:36 [#01311968]
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steinbolt makes me cum
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-08-22 22:41 [#01311970]
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well, then, 'nuff said. now lets move on to actually listening to great music instead of debating its greatness.
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2004-08-23 03:16 [#01312053]
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fair enough, no problem with that... just don't say "poor mastering, bad mixing" then, it's confusing as to what you really think
good day everybody
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-08-23 03:20 [#01312055]
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it's all just subjective opinion anyway
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-08-23 06:21 [#01312110]
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...but it's still got tetra sync.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-08-23 10:29 [#01312301]
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i find myself getting bored with t sync, district line ii that is where its at, what an f ing track. Mr. Jenkinson, can you please sum up go plastic in 11 minutes sure no prob.
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furrybum
from Derby (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-24 07:54 [#01312960]
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its the live sound to the album that makes it work i think. Too many albums these days sound far too pollished. Ultravisitor works because it sounds more raw in my opinion.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-08-24 08:08 [#01312970]
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i sort of get the "district 2 sounds like Go Plastic" idea but i don't think its a really sound one. First off i love that tune, probably my absolute fave on the album but its structurelly very different from the GP heavies. I can't even imagine mixing it that well with a GP track cos the sound layers are very different - the drums being more in then background.
GP jungle songs are very up front and obvious with a definite "catch" or 2.. a melody, or jungle meltdown sequence or something... where i think Districtline 2 has a ghostly distant quality all on its own.
If i had to compare D2 to another >[] track it would be with "my fucking sound" as they both have an unearthly abstract feeling that attacks you from an obtuse angle..... and tickles your spine....love em!
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mrgypsum
on 2004-08-25 19:20 [#01314497]
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i'm not saying that d2 sounds as if it was on gp, it still sounds like a ultravis track, but, its of the same style.
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