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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-08-17 08:12 [#01306933]
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so which one is better ? player is no problem anymore, every winamp 2.91+ plays ogg files.
the filesize is better in .ogg, but what about quality ?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-08-17 08:26 [#01306944]
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my vote goest to mp3
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-08-17 08:28 [#01306946]
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ogg!!
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-08-17 08:32 [#01306947]
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i dont believe all those reports with (double) blind listening tests...
ive compressed some samples myself, and mixed it with the inverted original waveform, so you can see what parts of the music the compression leaves out. ogg leaves the higher frequency parts intact, where mp3 (lame) drops everything above 18000 hz or so. there were less noisy background artifacts at ca. 190 kbps, compaired to mp3
so, mp3 it is.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-08-17 08:33 [#01306948]
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ehhhhhhh i mean ogg it is.
tolstoyed your link seems to focus on other audio sources as well such as voice conversations. imo for (high quality bitrates) music ogg is better
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-08-17 08:34 [#01306949]
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i see.
my vote goes to ogg.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-08-17 08:38 [#01306951]
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good
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-08-17 08:59 [#01306960]
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if you're intending these to be downloaded by other people, choose mp3 as people will be put off by ogg as most people don't know what the fuck it is.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-08-17 09:00 [#01306961]
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im selfish
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2004-08-17 10:12 [#01307051]
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in terms of pure technological goodness, ogg rocks it, but my mp3-cd players to play ogg, so mp3 it is for me.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2004-08-17 10:23 [#01307070]
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I've only very rarely had a quality problem with 128kbps mp3s, so clearly I'm not fussy enough to care. I've had some very good experiences with that ogg video format though.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-08-17 10:29 [#01307077]
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you listen to 128 kbps??
my ears are bad but 128 kbps is pure horror, especially for stuff with a lot of noise like snare drums and such
hiss rumble artifacts galore
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-08-17 10:34 [#01307081]
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You won't trust a double-blind listening test - but you're ok with drawing conclusions about music from a waveform that you look at.
Uh ..... ok.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-08-17 10:36 [#01307084]
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yes its kind of stupid
it means im paranoid and i dont trust other peoples ears, just my own pathetic little tests
i did a listening test myself too by the way
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-08-17 10:36 [#01307086]
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Oh yes, and the answer to which one is better is the one that you can listen to wherever you want and the one that sounds better to you.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-08-17 10:39 [#01307089]
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i guess im pro ogg because my mp3 harddisk plays it. and it sounds better to me.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-08-17 10:40 [#01307090]
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flaccing hell
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2004-08-17 11:06 [#01307118]
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Give me an example of a track you can hear hiss rumblage in 128kbps, preferably something I'm likely to have. I just listened to Marty's Tardis and Girl/Boy Song but they sound fine to me...
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-08-17 11:07 [#01307119]
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its all filesize. if .ogg takes few mb's less than mp3 - why not use it ? and what about ppl knowing it ? i thought that ogg is popular too.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-08-17 11:11 [#01307122]
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I think mp3 sounds better, as a name, than ogg. Mp3 sounds, ooh futuristic, it's digital, it's the future. Ogg sounds like a music format left over from the old Soviet Union, as a by-product of some KGB sound torture experiment.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-08-17 11:13 [#01307126]
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well, that interesting.
i think i will use .ogg when uploading music from now - smaller filesize for the same quality.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-08-17 11:15 [#01307127]
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you can mostly hear that watery effect in percussion.
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