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offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-08-17 08:12 [#01306933]
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so which one is better ? player is no problem anymore,
every winamp 2.91+ plays ogg files.
the filesize is better in .ogg, but what about quality ?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-08-17 08:26 [#01306944]
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my vote goest to mp3


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-08-17 08:28 [#01306946]
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ogg!!


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-08-17 08:32 [#01306947]
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i dont believe all those reports with (double) blind
listening tests...

ive compressed some samples myself, and mixed it with the
inverted original waveform, so you can see what parts of the
music the compression leaves out. ogg leaves the higher
frequency parts intact, where mp3 (lame) drops everything
above 18000 hz or so. there were less noisy background
artifacts at ca. 190 kbps, compaired to mp3

so, mp3 it is.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-08-17 08:33 [#01306948]
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ehhhhhhh i mean ogg it is.

tolstoyed your link seems to focus on other audio sources as
well such as voice conversations. imo for (high quality
bitrates) music ogg is better


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-08-17 08:34 [#01306949]
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i see.

my vote goes to ogg.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-08-17 08:38 [#01306951]
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good


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-08-17 08:59 [#01306960]
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if you're intending these to be downloaded by other people,
choose mp3 as people will be put off by ogg as most people
don't know what the fuck it is.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-08-17 09:00 [#01306961]
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im selfish


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2004-08-17 10:12 [#01307051]
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in terms of pure technological goodness, ogg rocks it, but
my mp3-cd players to play ogg, so mp3 it is for me.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2004-08-17 10:23 [#01307070]
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I've only very rarely had a quality problem with 128kbps
mp3s, so clearly I'm not fussy enough to care. I've had
some very good experiences with that ogg video format
though.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-08-17 10:29 [#01307077]
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you listen to 128 kbps??

my ears are bad but 128 kbps is pure horror, especially for
stuff with a lot of noise like snare drums and such

hiss rumble artifacts galore


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-08-17 10:34 [#01307081]
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You won't trust a double-blind listening test - but
you're ok with drawing conclusions about music from a
waveform that you look at.

Uh ..... ok.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-08-17 10:36 [#01307084]
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yes its kind of stupid

it means im paranoid and i dont trust other peoples ears,
just my own pathetic little tests

i did a listening test myself too by the way


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-08-17 10:36 [#01307086]
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Oh yes, and the answer to which one is better is the one
that you can listen to wherever you want and the one that
sounds better to you.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-08-17 10:39 [#01307089]
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i guess im pro ogg because my mp3 harddisk plays it. and it
sounds better to me.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-08-17 10:40 [#01307090]
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flaccing hell


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2004-08-17 11:06 [#01307118]
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Give me an example of a track you can hear hiss rumblage in
128kbps, preferably something I'm likely to have. I just
listened to Marty's Tardis and Girl/Boy Song but they sound
fine to me...



 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-08-17 11:07 [#01307119]
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its all filesize. if .ogg takes few mb's less than mp3 -
why not use it ? and what about ppl knowing it ? i thought
that ogg is popular too.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2004-08-17 11:11 [#01307122]
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I think mp3 sounds better, as a name, than ogg. Mp3 sounds,
ooh futuristic, it's digital, it's the future. Ogg sounds
like a music format left over from the old Soviet Union, as
a by-product of some KGB sound torture experiment.


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-08-17 11:13 [#01307126]
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well, that interesting.

i think i will use .ogg when uploading music from now -
smaller filesize for the same quality.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-08-17 11:15 [#01307127]
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you can mostly hear that watery effect in percussion.


 


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