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4030
on 2004-08-06 10:38 [#01297094]
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you may want to check this out
smotan mc & shamanez - defloracia
this is an electronic hip-hop album by two bulgarians. shamanez is in charge of the programming, smotan mc - in charge of the rhymes. very pervert and unlike any other hip-hop i've ever heard. it would be much better if you can understand the lyrics but even if you don't - go for it. you would appreciate the music for sure. you may also have a look ot their website smotan.tk although you'll have a language problem again.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-08-06 10:41 [#01297097]
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if im not mistaken smotan would mean warped...i'll check the music when i get home (i don't have speakers at work...).
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-08-06 10:41 [#01297098]
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I happen to speak fluent Bulgarian - I will check this out.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-08-06 10:41 [#01297100]
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hmmm, I'd probably check this out if i was just the hip-hop minues the rap... but I might check it out anyways...
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4030
on 2004-08-06 10:45 [#01297102]
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"smotan" means something like lame or inadequate. but the mc rules. it's just his style is so sarcastic it even shows in his name.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-08-06 10:46 [#01297103]
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am i right about "smotan"? :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-08-06 10:47 [#01297107]
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yes, but in direct translation it would mean warped, wouldn't it? ok, i'll stop now :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-08-06 10:48 [#01297111]
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actually wraped not warped...ahh
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4030
on 2004-08-06 10:50 [#01297117]
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well... it's really possible to translate smotan like wrapped but it's really very very very rarely used with that meaning. on my scale "very very very rarely" means theoretically never. it's generally used meaning "lame".
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4030
on 2004-08-06 10:55 [#01297122]
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but let's not turn the thread into a dictionary. :) check the album. it would be also nice to see how what people that don't understand the lyrics appreciate this.
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-08-06 10:57 [#01297126]
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no literally translated it means clumsy u should know that tolstoyed, u should understand serbian :)
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-08-06 10:58 [#01297128]
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which r the best tracks i cant dl the whole thing
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4030
on 2004-08-06 11:00 [#01297130]
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the only way is to get the whole thing. it's zipped. all the tracks are inside. but honestly, every single one is worth it.
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-08-06 11:03 [#01297135]
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theres separate tracks on website which ones shld i dl
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-08-06 11:06 [#01297141]
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guess what...serbian swear words are now part of official slovenian dictionary :)
and i agree, i ruined this topic already with this dictionary crap.
im sorry. (i'll check the thing when i get home)
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4030
on 2004-08-06 11:07 [#01297143]
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the first link in my first post is the link to the album. it's actually the first DOWNLOAD link on the first and only download page. uh... what a nasty sentence!
the other links in the download section are to live shows , some instrumentals, even a small comic strip.
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-08-06 11:07 [#01297144]
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really ? :) which ones?
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4030
on 2004-08-06 11:08 [#01297146]
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umm... neither bulgarian words.
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4030
on 2004-08-06 11:09 [#01297147]
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ah, sorry... i misread.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-08-06 11:09 [#01297149]
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YES, I AGREE.
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-08-06 11:11 [#01297152]
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so i have to dl 60mb to hear it? stupid ppl they lost me already
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-08-06 11:13 [#01297157]
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not really no, but i don't think we have any swear words of our own...most (all) of them are taken from serbian...best language when it comes to swearing :)
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-08-06 11:33 [#01297171]
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ur definitely right about that one thats the only thing were good at, swearing
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-08-06 16:57 [#01297501]
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listening now...i can't understand anything, but the music part is pretty good, yes. as a matter of fact, it's like listening to some serbian rapper, except i can't understand this :(
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-08-07 15:17 [#01298171]
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yea , the sounding of our 2 languages is pretty similar unfortunately
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emessiah37
from transcentral (United States) on 2004-08-07 15:54 [#01298216]
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electronic hip hop is, in my opinion, still a ways from having a nice presence. from what i've heard at this point, nautilis is the first thing that comes to mind, the rapping is either extremely white-hoppy or the beat is kind of a standalone glitch track that would rather slither around than stand still and give the MC room to operate.
i think over the next 2-3 years you'll see some people make progress on bridging the gap. certainly, i think there's room for slightly more technical aphex twin sounding hip hop beats, however, you dont want to overdo it and have an off-beat MC.
the actual raps can't evolve like the beats can, so realistically, i think you're going to have to stick to some conventions like repetition, otherwise it's really hard to stay focused as a rapper.
that said, i dont expect vsnares and buck 65 to hook up anytime soon =D
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-08-07 16:01 [#01298226]
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wise words my man, wise words
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emessiah37
from transcentral (United States) on 2004-08-07 16:04 [#01298228]
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do i detect any inherent sarcasm there, or am i, the n00b, actually a recipient of the gold star for the day? =D
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-08-07 16:10 [#01298232]
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no sarcasm really (hmm come to think of it, its strange for me that theres no, sorry ill fix that in a minute)
wow man, u r so wise
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-08-07 16:10 [#01298233]
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ull get a gold star, but ud have to change yr nick to a not-so-lame one :)
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