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offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2004-07-27 10:58 [#01287722]
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This very short essay is all according to my tastes! My
english is awful so please excuse

Very few artists today maintain a high ability to discern a
"fat beat". I personally think too many artists get away
with creating simple, uncreative, un-thought-out beats.

If not a fat beat, then a fat sound. Like that vivacious,
destructive WHOMP of dansk rap by richard devine. Or that
loud, wrenching, delicious terror of netlon sentienl by
Autechre. Those 2 are a few of many but are the best example
I can think of... "a creative music sound that is not a fat
beat"

Fat beats stimulate my mind more than any drug has ever in
my entire life.

Draft 7.30 is currently the album containing the most "fat
beats" , and the fattest beats in history. It is the most
creative album I have ever heard. Terrifically done, the
beats are all extremely dynamic. Some are simply intense,
fast paced, and fat. It is like having your brain taken
apart, placed in the blender which is Draft 7.30 and your
brain is milkshaked by fat beats. I have listen to reniform
puls over a hundred times and I pick up certain things that
I had not previously picked up before during some
listenings.

This same thing goes for all autechre albums. Your ears
never are full drenched by their tracks, you only get
certain parts wet. When you feel as if you are being soaked
though you KNOW it -- for reasons individual and personal to
you. I feel as if sometimes that if i grasped the entirety
of certain fat beats created by them that I would turn into
something else. instead the energy is turned into
microorganic visual kinetics

A fat beat is basically un-explainably by any english
adjectives. It is imperative that we begin to understand fat
beats on the micro level. It is imperative that we listen to
as much autechre as we can so that we can be raised to this
higher state -- gescom too. Richard devine aswell.

DID ANY OF YOU FUCKING LISTEN TO THE BEATS ON THAT GESCOM
RADIO SHOW. "ONE WORLD"??? THAT MOTHER FUCKING SHIT WAS SO
FAT.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2004-07-27 11:03 [#01287727]
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pinnacles of fat beats:

Richard Devine's remix of Come to Daddy
Reniform Puls by Autechre
54 Cyrmu Beats by Aphex Twin

whole album of Draft 7.30

Left Blank by autechre. JESUS GOD THAT SHIT IS FUCKING FAT
TO YOUR BOOTY. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT BOOTY SHAKING?

Autechre live in NY 1999 (you'll have to download this one)
The juiciness of the last piece of this act is unexplainable
by human adjectives

"lipswitch" by richard devine is a fucking definitive album
in vehement, furious hard beats

Buy ASECT/DSECT, it is not as fat as lipswitch but it has
Dansk Rap, Corina Chirac, and Isuko...


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2004-07-27 11:06 [#01287732]
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There is some very valid bioluminescent booty shaking in
Autechre live in Manchester, Part 5, you'll have to download
that one

That one is way up there


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-07-27 11:09 [#01287736]
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???


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2004-07-27 11:11 [#01287739]
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Like those neuromechanical jacked up beats? Those ones that
you cannot really bump to, but they get in your brain and
make you think of huge robotic asses being shaked?

Treat yourself to ENVANE -- released in 1997 I think


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2004-07-27 11:11 [#01287740]
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told you my english sucks dude. i hope someone gets this


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-07-27 11:15 [#01287746]
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go cygnus!!


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2004-07-27 11:25 [#01287752]
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Hehehe excellent.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-07-27 11:27 [#01287757]
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Hahaha I think someone is passionate about Auty Echer.

Good to see you mention Envane, the beat on Laughing Quarter
(track 3) requires me to fan myself quite a bit otherwise I
would pass out, especially when the melodic elements drop
out for the final minute.

I will download everything else you recommended.


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-07-27 11:35 [#01287764]
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it was an interesting text.
But since you're so passionate about the subject, I think
you should record yourself talking about it, and you should
lay up the beats so I could hear them. In short : do a
radioshow about it!


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2004-07-27 12:15 [#01287798]
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6ie.cr is almost the damn funkiest fattest thin evar


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2004-07-27 15:41 [#01287967]
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YES


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-07-27 15:51 [#01287976]
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so what about the recordingsuggestion?


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-07-27 15:51 [#01287977]
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it's not a joke... if you feel you're bad at english do it
in your native language.


 

offline cie jiks mawp from motion to descend (Australia) on 2004-07-27 17:26 [#01288052]
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this was a good essay thankyou. i read it with my morning
coffee.
pleez write another. this time on skinny beats. ie, when a
song contains a breakdown or a sophisticated and pure
pattern change like 1/2 pace or a hi-hat change like
spectral spare and gives the listener a chance to digest the
fat element of the song.

eg. Mt Saint Nicholas contains epiliptical fat beats and
spectral skinny beats and seemlessly moves between the two.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2004-07-27 17:35 [#01288066]
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i took your advice and completed a volunteer DJ application
form at KNON
http://www.knon.org/index.php?id=246

they have a show that plays warp and warp-related artists i
think, but they also play alot of shit. alot of synth pop is
played on the show. hardly any talented or creative artists

if that doesnt work -- i will send something in to be played
one-time for that show. hopefully they'd do it? i dont know


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2004-07-27 17:36 [#01288067]
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what the fuck are you talking about bro


 

offline Atli from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2004-07-27 20:07 [#01288199]
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laughing quarter is good but "gimmik - le ciel" is the
best...jesus christ, that track is so good that it's not
normal.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-07-27 20:13 [#01288202]
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there is something very primal about a well performed "fat
beat".


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-27 20:31 [#01288209]
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i totally get it. great words, cyg!

i honestly wish, there was some fucking way,

that i could put force this understanding to some of my
friends who just don't get this music.

i really do....sigh :/ if only they knew.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-27 20:32 [#01288211]
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haha reniform puls is fantastic...the whomps/thumps are so
drawn out...your brain really anticipates them to hit in and
leave at a smaller pace.

Each time, no matter how many times I hear the track, my
brain hears the begining of the "fat beat" and wants to end
it before it actually does.

my brain kinda of, anticipates it ending well before it
actually does

good call :)

fat aka lagging beats


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-27 20:36 [#01288212]
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I often wonder, since IDM is really the only music where I
can have a re-inforced opinion, that no one person really
hears a song the same way as another.
I would love to be able to listen to a song that I have
compiled in my head, and can only listen to a certain way;
the way that the beats, build up, notes, have been compiled
in my head.....I wish I could listen to a song the way you
guys do, and vice versa...and hear what parts I am missing.

I compile a run of a track and I pick up certain parts (of
reniform puls, for example) where I follow it real fast,
then get slowed WAY down on a few notes, then sped right
back up again.

I've tried numerous times and just cannot stop listening to
this song (for example) one way. I simply cannot change how
I listen to this song no matter how I try...it's so ....
well, unforgiving.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-27 20:39 [#01288216]
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My favorite part of Draft is Xylin Room, at like 3:16 or
whatever (depending on the mp3s you have, i don't know what
exact time it is on my vinyl upstairs).

but it's right where there's a slight buildup...then it
hesitates off for a second, then WHAM, you get slammed with
that high, quiet melody that continues on for the rest of
the track.

When that high / quiet melody first slams in, is one of the
most powerful parts in a song I have ever experienced.

It's like a shroom trip, and right when it slams in, the
curtains come CRASHING down around you, and a fully extent
trip unfolds in front of your eyes at the speed of light.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-27 20:43 [#01288218]
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I can make faces and distord my face to every beat and twist
of Draft 7.30.

I seriously think I could act the album out to a deaf
person, simply by making abrasive facial expressions..

chew on that.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-28 15:50 [#01288955]
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