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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-07-25 13:43 [#01286021]
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I finally bought this on Friday, after putting it off for some years, and after a few people spoke about her independently of one another, thus leading myself to decide that it was time to buy and read it.
It is great, and anyone who's heard of it but thought not to read it, I urge you to reconsider. Those of you who have never heard of author or novel, I urge you to read The Bell Jar.
Plath committed suicide the year it was published. She was aged 30.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-07-25 14:01 [#01286045]
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She put her head in a gas oven....funny way to die
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-07-25 14:02 [#01286048]
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certainly heard of it. i think it's required reading in many schools, though it wasn't in mine. i'd like to read this.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-07-25 14:03 [#01286050]
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If only you'd emulate her mode of death.
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-07-25 14:06 [#01286051]
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emulate her immolation?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 14:13 [#01286056]
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that's exactly one of those titles that I keep putting of buying and reading.. I just bought a boxed set of "essential poetry" according to Faber & Faber and one of them is Plath's "Ariel", so I was just thinking about "The Bell Jar".
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-07-25 14:38 [#01286081]
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I did not realise that it was a sacrificial killing.
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-07-25 14:47 [#01286088]
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actually i was going for the death by fire thing, but i guess she just gassed herself, not burned herself or anything.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-07-25 14:57 [#01286095]
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The Bell Jar is just one long beautiful poem in itself. Fantastic, perrfect book.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-07-25 15:00 [#01286099]
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Immolation is a sacrifical killing. I think maybe because that monk on the cover of the RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE immolated himself by setting himself ablaze, many people thought THAT was the immolation?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 15:03 [#01286100]
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it can mean to kill yourself by fire and to kill yourself as a sacrifice.
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-07-25 15:08 [#01286104]
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right. and i'm not ashamed to admit i looked it up first to make sure i was using it right!
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-07-25 15:09 [#01286105]
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immolation is a sacrificial killing howeverr it's most commonly associated with the act of being burrned as the method of death within the sacrrifice. still a sacrificial killing, howeverr. immolation is not being burrned alive in a house firre.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-07-25 15:10 [#01286106]
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yes :P
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-07-25 15:12 [#01286110]
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merriam webster disagrees with you.
Main Entry: im·mo·late Pronunciation: 'i-m&-"lAt Function: transitive verb Inflected Form(s): -lat·ed; -lat·ing Etymology: Latin immolatus, past participle of immolare, from in- + mola spelt grits; from the custom of sprinkling victims with sacrificial meal; akin to Latin molere to grind -- more at MEAL
1 : to offer in sacrifice; especially : to kill as a sacrificial victim
2 : to kill or destroy often by fire
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-07-25 15:13 [#01286111]
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oh, i see.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-07-25 15:31 [#01286132]
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I looked it up in the Oxford English Dictionary, and it says thus: "kill or offer as a sacrifice". It has no mention of burning. Webster is the US dictionary is it not? Personally, I would rate the OED above Webster, but that is just me.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 15:32 [#01286135]
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ha ha
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earface
from somewhere (Yugoslavia) on 2004-07-25 15:37 [#01286139]
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Wasn't Sylvia Plath married to the Poet Laureat (spelling?) at the time? He was cheating on her and that's why she killed herself or something.
God, I sound like a right moron.
I'm trying to read Jacques Derrida's OF GRAMMATOLOGY at the moment. THAT makes me feel very stupid.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 15:38 [#01286142]
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she was married to Ted Hughes, yes.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-07-25 15:39 [#01286143]
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She was married to poet Ted Hughes. I think she killed herself because she was crazy.
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-07-25 15:41 [#01286146]
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whatever, PAUL! forget it. nevermind. for fuck's sake. haha.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 15:42 [#01286151]
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their daughter, Frieda Hughes, also writes poetry. some pretty good stuff, too.
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-07-25 15:44 [#01286153]
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and their son is a marine biologist.
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Jacob
from United States on 2004-07-26 04:01 [#01286391]
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depressed...crazy. excellent book though, i readily agree.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-07-26 11:52 [#01286761]
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Regardless of the Yankee acquired mis-definition of "immolation", she gassed herself, she didn't burn herself (according to my sources).
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