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neetta
from Finland on 2004-07-25 12:54 [#01285942]
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i'm just watching the swan lake and i was wondering, does anyone of you enjoy ballet?
i think it's the best physical artform. it's my favourite hobby and so relaxing and enjoyable to watch.
ehh. i'm so waiting what you have to say on this.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 12:56 [#01285945]
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the only "ballet" I see is modern dance.
classical ballet doesn't attract me at all.
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-07-25 12:58 [#01285949]
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i used to dance modern, but i have to say ballet has taken me completely. btw mira calix is excellent home practice music
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-07-25 12:59 [#01285950]
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can't really say. i think i've only seen ballet once (the nutcracker), and i barely remember it.
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:13 [#01285968]
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i forgot this was the internet, where culture basically means bald chicks naked.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 13:14 [#01285969]
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ha ha :)
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:15 [#01285970]
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yes. it's not funny.
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-07-25 13:16 [#01285971]
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now that i have an opinion on!
no, seriously, ballet just doesn't reach as many people as other art forms. i don't think there's anything wrong with ballet. and i don't think there's anything wrong with me or my culture because i haven't been exposed to it!
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:18 [#01285974]
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that is true. it's held as an 'elitistic' art form. i didn't like ballet since i was forced to dance it as a kid. but all 'old' art seems to be overlooked nowadays. when was the last time you went to opera or classical concert?
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-07-25 13:18 [#01285977]
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Its ghey
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:20 [#01285979]
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... like all good things in life.
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-07-25 13:20 [#01285981]
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certainly been a while, but those are things that i would be interested in much more than ballet. why is that? perhaps my own tastes, perhaps a cultural stigma. if it's a cultural stigma then i feel your pain.
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:22 [#01285983]
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i dislike opera. the last time i went was when i was like 10 or so, and i think it was an operett.
i didn't appreciate ballet before i danced it myself. that might be the issue?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 13:23 [#01285985]
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I'm writing the libretto for an opera at the moment, a close friend of mine is the composer. and this thing'll actually be produced, in about 2 years.. oh my.
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:25 [#01285986]
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that's cool. do a ballet, and in ten years i might be good enough for the lead role.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 13:25 [#01285989]
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operatta is hardly the same as an opera.
and just like with any artform there are shit opera's and good ones.
the more obscure ones are mostly more fun - they can have REALLY weird stories and REALLY weird music.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 13:26 [#01285993]
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*operetta
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-07-25 13:27 [#01285997]
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i'm sure that also has a lot to do with it. i'm impressed with it, because it's obvious it's a very skillful and graceful art form, but, being an art form, it's not going to appeal to everyone. i actually, don't really enjoy operas, either, i was mostly refering to classical concerts. :)
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-07-25 13:28 [#01285998]
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i like glass' operas, but that's because they're quite different from what you normally think of as an opera.
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:28 [#01285999]
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it was 'the sea' by sibelius. the only thing i recall is that there was singing involved.
but when it comes to ballet i enjoy also the stranger ones like nutcracker or don quixote, whereas pieces like giselle are just boring.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2004-07-25 13:29 [#01286000]
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ive never enjoyed ballet or the opera
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:34 [#01286009]
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i take that back. i have no idea who it was by, but it was the story called 'the sea'
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 13:38 [#01286013]
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you should try Ligeti's "Le Grand Macabre".
strange story + very interesting music.
or Benjamin Britten's "Peter Grimes".
not so much strange, more very sad and not so "big" as people normally think opera has to be.
or Michael Nyman's "The man who mistook his wife for a hat".
pretty nice minimalistic music, great (true) story based on the work of Oliver Sachs.
or John Adams' "Nixon in China".
great minimalistic music and the story is about Nixon's visit to China (suprisingly)..
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:49 [#01286030]
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do i get theses as avi files from slsk? :) i think not.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-07-25 13:49 [#01286031]
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trruth be told, no.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-07-25 13:52 [#01286035]
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Generally I prefer modern dance. I saw Margie Gillis perform at Montreal's open air Theatre de la Verdure - she did a Bach dance - that prelude in G or whatever it is with the cello - she was just bursting and blossoming all over the stage like time lapse photography of flowers blooming. Made me cry with joy it was so beautiful, and also with the knowledge that it would probably be one of the last times she performed it as she was getting on in years. Next time I saw her, indeed, she was doing dances that were easier on the body... lots of crawling and rolling around. Oh well.
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:54 [#01286037]
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crawling and rolling around is basically 70% of modernd dance (j/k)
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-07-25 13:54 [#01286038]
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i liked stomp.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 14:18 [#01286061]
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well, I do have all of those on cd, so I could rip them to high-quality mp3s for you.
(but you do really need the libretto to read along with opera - it's still hard to follow otherwise)
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