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offline neetta from Finland on 2004-07-25 12:54 [#01285942]
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i'm just watching the swan lake and i was wondering, does
anyone of you enjoy ballet?

i think it's the best physical artform. it's my favourite
hobby and so relaxing and enjoyable to watch.

ehh. i'm so waiting what you have to say on this.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 12:56 [#01285945]
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the only "ballet" I see is modern dance.

classical ballet doesn't attract me at all.


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2004-07-25 12:58 [#01285949]
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i used to dance modern, but i have to say ballet has taken
me completely. btw mira calix is excellent home practice
music


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2004-07-25 12:59 [#01285950]
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can't really say. i think i've only seen ballet once (the
nutcracker), and i barely remember it.


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:13 [#01285968]
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i forgot this was the internet, where culture basically
means bald chicks naked.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 13:14 [#01285969]
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ha ha :)


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:15 [#01285970]
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yes. it's not funny.


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2004-07-25 13:16 [#01285971]
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now that i have an opinion on!

no, seriously, ballet just doesn't reach as many people as
other art forms. i don't think there's anything wrong with
ballet. and i don't think there's anything wrong with me or
my culture because i haven't been exposed to it!


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:18 [#01285974]
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that is true. it's held as an 'elitistic' art form. i didn't
like ballet since i was forced to dance it as a kid. but all
'old' art seems to be overlooked nowadays. when was the last
time you went to opera or classical concert?


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2004-07-25 13:18 [#01285977]
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Its ghey


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:20 [#01285979]
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... like all good things in life.


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2004-07-25 13:20 [#01285981]
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certainly been a while, but those are things that i would be
interested in much more than ballet. why is that? perhaps my
own tastes, perhaps a cultural stigma. if it's a cultural
stigma then i feel your pain.


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:22 [#01285983]
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i dislike opera. the last time i went was when i was like 10
or so, and i think it was an operett.

i didn't appreciate ballet before i danced it myself. that
might be the issue?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 13:23 [#01285985]
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I'm writing the libretto for an opera at the moment, a close
friend of mine is the composer. and this thing'll actually
be produced, in about 2 years.. oh my.


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:25 [#01285986]
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that's cool. do a ballet, and in ten years i might be good
enough for the lead role.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 13:25 [#01285989]
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operatta is hardly the same as an opera.

and just like with any artform there are shit opera's and
good ones.

the more obscure ones are mostly more fun - they can have
REALLY weird stories and REALLY weird music.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 13:26 [#01285993]
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*operetta


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2004-07-25 13:27 [#01285997]
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i'm sure that also has a lot to do with it. i'm impressed
with it, because it's obvious it's a very skillful and
graceful art form, but, being an art form, it's not going to
appeal to everyone. i actually, don't really enjoy operas,
either, i was mostly refering to classical concerts. :)


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2004-07-25 13:28 [#01285998]
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i like glass' operas, but that's because they're quite
different from what you normally think of as an opera.


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:28 [#01285999]
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it was 'the sea' by sibelius. the only thing i recall is
that there was singing involved.

but when it comes to ballet i enjoy also the stranger ones
like nutcracker or don quixote, whereas pieces like giselle
are just boring.


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2004-07-25 13:29 [#01286000]
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ive never enjoyed ballet or the opera


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:34 [#01286009]
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i take that back. i have no idea who it was by, but it was
the story called 'the sea'


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 13:38 [#01286013]
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you should try Ligeti's "Le Grand Macabre".

strange story + very interesting music.




or Benjamin Britten's "Peter Grimes".

not so much strange, more very sad and not so "big" as
people normally think opera has to be.




or Michael Nyman's "The man who mistook his wife for a
hat".

pretty nice minimalistic music, great (true) story based on
the work of Oliver Sachs.




or John Adams' "Nixon in China".

great minimalistic music and the story is about Nixon's
visit to China (suprisingly)..


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:49 [#01286030]
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do i get theses as avi files from slsk? :) i think not.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-07-25 13:49 [#01286031]
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trruth be told, no.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-07-25 13:52 [#01286035]
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Generally I prefer modern dance. I saw Margie Gillis perform
at Montreal's open air Theatre de la Verdure - she did a
Bach dance - that prelude in G or whatever it is with the
cello - she was just bursting and blossoming all over the
stage like time lapse photography of flowers blooming. Made
me cry with joy it was so beautiful, and also with the
knowledge that it would probably be one of the last times
she performed it as she was getting on in years. Next time I
saw her, indeed, she was doing dances that were easier on
the body... lots of crawling and rolling around. Oh well.


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2004-07-25 13:54 [#01286037]
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crawling and rolling around is basically 70% of modernd
dance (j/k)


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2004-07-25 13:54 [#01286038]
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i liked stomp.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 14:18 [#01286061]
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well, I do have all of those on cd, so I could rip them to
high-quality mp3s for you.

(but you do really need the libretto to read along with
opera - it's still hard to follow otherwise)


 


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