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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-20 08:55 [#01281202]
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starts in 4 days, this friday its gonna b a blast so who is going?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-20 08:56 [#01281203]
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so who's playing?
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-20 08:56 [#01281204]
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link for the festival
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-20 08:58 [#01281206]
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hmm, scud is kind of the only one i like on that list...but, better than nothing i guess :)
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-20 09:01 [#01281209]
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hm, i think its the amazing lineup for 2 days
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-20 09:05 [#01281211]
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I went to last years which was amazing, Coil headlined that one and was the main reason for me going, they don't really have any big names this year which is strange.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-07-20 09:39 [#01281229]
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If I had the money I would
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-20 10:28 [#01281270]
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when u spent it all on shitty glade :)
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-20 12:04 [#01281351]
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Pantalaimon... I remember you said you had just finished college... does that when you went last year you were under 18? I'm slightly anxious as my friend and I really want to go but are still 17. Was it strictly controlled?
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-20 12:16 [#01281354]
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i was 23, i started college late, it was a university course at a college.
i don't think its that strict, if you look 18 i think you would get in without any problems,
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-20 12:21 [#01281357]
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Oh right sorry :)
I seem to remember the central court of the Custard Factory being pretty accessable, I imagine it would be easy to get there if not into the bars etc. Well we'll wait and see, me and my friend look reasonably old, I certainly think we look old enough but hey.
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-21 09:18 [#01282194]
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what about their drug policy r they strict about that?
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-23 13:26 [#01284445]
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BUMP this motherf up.
I decided to not go tonight but I have my tickets for tomorrow!
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Chris Ochre
on 2004-07-23 15:17 [#01284584]
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Hmm. Wondering if I should stump up to see Clark... Hmmm.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-07-23 15:22 [#01284589]
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Seriously dude, you've got to check senor coconut if you get the chance, i see he's playing tomorrow. I saw him in switzerland when i was away on hols, and he's so much fun. Real party music.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-23 15:32 [#01284606]
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Lol okay I will! I only have a handful of acts I want to see so I'll try anything. Actually party music sounds appealing, there's only so much IDM I think I can take in one night.
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telica
from london/york on 2004-07-23 15:38 [#01284612]
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if i were local, i'd be there! the custard factory's supposed to be an ace venue too. make sure you post a little review of it all - get us all back for the flood of glade posts! :D
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-23 16:01 [#01284649]
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I'll try to :) 5pm til 4am tomorrow... Jesus it's gonna be light before I get home how strange. I got the tickets tonight I thought it would be safer than getting them on the door... the joke will be on me if they don't let me in...
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telica
from london/york on 2004-07-23 16:11 [#01284669]
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if you've already got the tickets in your hand then it's very unlikely that they'll id you - that's what i used to find. i guess it's easier for girls anyway tho'.
you coming down for the planet-mu rave on sept 17th? i really think you ought to! :)
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-23 16:53 [#01284700]
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Yea touchwood there shouldn't be any problems. I wouldn't usually be worried but I really really wanna go.
Hmm what's the planetmu thing? I'm a bit ouuta touch with that one. Yeah sounds good though man I'm in the mood for 'avin it laaaarge
By the way telica did you get a chance to listen to my track??
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telica
from london/york on 2004-07-23 17:11 [#01284713]
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w00t!
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-25 09:18 [#01285748]
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Hehe all went well, very cool night :)
I'll try and talk about the guys I saw.
Esquilax were first on in the Medicine Bar, they were a tad odd for me. A lot of feedback and guitar noise... improv stuff. Kinda interesting but didn't hold my attention for very long. I'm sure they would sound better on record.
Ward were the first act on the theatre space, there were literally about 5 or 6 people watching their set. It was a shame really as they were one of the most interesting acts of the night. Like new Autechre, very interesting sitting down and listening material. Sounded great throught the PA... lots of strange and wonderful sounds.
Fast Lady were on first on the Main Stage... they were pretty average. They were dressed in black masks and purple robes, they looked like an evil Polyphonic Spree. A bit too novelty for me I think.
Christ followed them on the Main Stage and I think that was a bit unfortunate, he would have made a great contribution further up the playlist. This guy worked with Boards of Canada in the 90s and it showed, his aesthetics were very similar. I think the crowd liked this one.
The Medicine Bar playlist got a bit fucked up here and I don't know who was really playing. I think I ended up watchin Team Shadetek without knowing it was them... whoever it was they were very good, got the first dancers of the evening. A lot of grime stuff which sounded awesome through the sound system.
Frank Cougar played to a fuller theatre space than Ward. He was monggggged, he reminded me of Chris Morris's dark side. He basically pressed play on his CD player/sequencer/whatever, and recited monologues over the top. Very unnerving but funny in an odd way. Certainly the most avant-garde act of the evening so far.
I caught only a couple of minutes of Dreams of Tall Buildings; they seemed good, although I wasn't really into that type of music. Two guitars doing post-rock kinda stuff. Perhaps a bit too introverted for the kind of fest they were playing (?).
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-25 09:33 [#01285760]
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Caught a minute of Mike in Mono... he was perhaps a tad too partyish for the sitting-down theatre space. The most amusing thing about his set was the projection of a mulleted 80s Pat Sharpe presenting some program about the 'latest synth technology'. Random.
Chris Clarke really tore up the Medicine Bar. He was my favourite act of the night I think. Seemed to be having fun on stage... the crowd loved him. Met him briefly after his set aswel, very friendly guy.
PCM followed him with some darrrrrrrrk d&b stuff. Really hard. They were cool but a bit too hardcore for me. I enjoyed watching everyone go mental to them though :)
DJ Scud kicked ass, provided the 4 to the floor stuff and kept everyone on their feet. Really f***ing loud stuff. He was my second favourite of the night I think.
I caught a bit of Midaircondo in the Theatre Space. These were an all female avant-garde type thing. I thought they would be a bit of a novelty but they were very good... Bjorkish kinda instrumentation but more improvised/jazzy structure.
I didn't see many much of the Main Stage. My favourite act on there was Panic DHH... probably the hardest metal I've heard. Mentaaaaal... thrashy guitars etc but with bloody hardcore electronics.
I caught tidbits of the other acts on there... Spektrum looked lame but perhaps only because they were playing at the same time as DJ Scud... anything would seem a bit tame in comparison.
We left before the last guys unfortunately - didn't get to see Senor Coconut :( We were knackerd after Scud! But yeah, overall, totally diverse night. I think the Medicine Bar acts were best personally but everyone seemed to entertain. WOOO yea... well done Capsule for pulling it off :)
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-07-25 09:51 [#01285775]
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sounds good. i couldn't make saturday in the end. did go on firday though, to see luke vibert & cylob. got caught up talking to old friends outside the main room itself.. none of us were drawn back to the dancefloor by anything that sounded particularly wagon-christ-y.. so i'm not 100% sure luke actually turned up. if he did, i must have been totally engrossed in conversation!
you didn't happen to hear anything about this when you went on saturday did you clint?
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-25 10:42 [#01285801]
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I didn't I'm afraid. I was being incredibly anti-social last night :) It was easy to miss stuff though... ie Team Shadetek... they should have put the act's name on the projections or somthing...
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blobula
from BElgraDe on 2004-07-25 15:18 [#01286117]
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i'd like to know if my friend weltact had great time there
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-07-25 15:19 [#01286119]
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i'm not
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-27 09:18 [#01287614]
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the festival per itself was really good, and the custard factory is a perferct venue for these kind of events, the weather was shite
and birmingham......ahhh......thats the biggest shithole on planet earth...i will never ever EVER go there again, even if my life is in danger...
full of rude frustrated uncivilized wankers, the whole city is so frustrated that it drains life out of u...we spent 2 days there and didnt see one single person smiling...
that city ought to be completely burnt down!
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-27 09:19 [#01287617]
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yea
team shadetek r ace and that guy sir real is a fuckin master...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-27 09:21 [#01287619]
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i spent two days in birminhgam once...i didn't really like it :)
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-07-27 10:13 [#01287668]
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i'm not from birmingham - but i've always liked it. most of the city itself is pretty ugly (curse the architects who rebuilt it after WWII), but in a sort of cosy, disarming way.. there are MUCH uglier cities than brum.
to be honest, though birmingham certainly isn't the friendliest city in the uk, i've always found brummies friendlier than londoners.. by a long shot.
birmingham's kind of shit, but everyone there knows it - so they don't carry the pretensions about how superior that the vast majority of londoners i've met do.
although it's a shame that a shopping mall and chain-stores seem to be the only way to breathe life into a city these days, the redevelopment of the centre has done a lot for birmingham. the custard factory community have (finally) got their act together in the last couple of years. and brummies finally seem to be making use of what they have at their disposition.
so i think your judgements of the people and the place were a little harsh. after all, i don't think i've ever seen anyone smile in london either! let alone look up and catch anyone's eye.
unfortunately, big cities seem to alienate people, despite forcing them together.
but by and large i've always found brummies to be good natured.
i don't want to offend, but perhaps what you saw was isolated, or.. dare i say it.. a reaction to you?
aaaanyway, yeah, you're right.. i've seen sir real a few times, and he's a good'un.
were you there on friday too?
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-27 10:36 [#01287706]
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i was there both days but last day me and my friend were kicked out of the festival (!) for accidentally falling asleep in couch for half an hour
the security guy came and kicked us out, eventho we begged him for 15mins to let us stayt, and we were totally straight, not drunk or drugged out, just tired, but the wanker didnt listen at all, he behaved like a fuckin gorilla with no brain or ears...idiot...
now how friendly is that... i mean, im goin out in london allthetime, and nothing close to this ever happened to me, bouncers r always civilized and proffesional enough to behave the way its expected for that position
and than,...on the way back...al the drunk bitches fighting and shouting on the street, and blokes all looking to pick a fight...whole city is so full of anger, i got the feeling that if someone gave them guns they wld kill eachother off completely in a week time
i donno, im a foreigner here aswell, but people r smiling at me friendly on the streets, and im not goin to get stabbed if i ask someone for directions on the street
my friend was english btw, from leeds, and he said that its the rudest and most frustrated city hes seen in uk, and hes definately not coming back either..
uh, i got goosebumps as i write this
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-07-27 10:49 [#01287714]
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i can't explain the goosebumps. but i am sorry you saw an ugly side to a city where (in all the years i've gone there) i've NEVER had any trouble at all.. the closest i've come was years ago in the scummy/townie broad st area of the city centre. there's a part like that in EVERY city in england, unfortunately. nottingham's tiny in comparison with brum, but it's so much worse for angry, drunk violent men (and women) swamping the city centre at the weekend. i've seen that in london too. and in sheffield, liverpool (where most people are really friendly a lot of the time), newcastle, leeds, bristol, oxford.. the list goes on.
even brighton, which is possibly the friendliest city in england.
for some sad reason there's a lot of pent up anger everywhere in the UK which unleashes itself at the weekend when everyone's drunk. it's usually confined to certain parts of town centres.
so, take my word for it, you got a false impression of brum. it's a shame, as it's always sad when a night out is spoiled by thuggish people. but they exist everywhere in the UK, not just in birmingham.. and it's a case of luck & local knowledge as to whether you run into them.
like i said - i've never really had trouble in brum' and everyone i interacted with on friday; even the local dealer was friendly. i wasn't interested in buying anything from him, but i did stand on his toes, and then crashed a cigarette from him.. i pointed a few people in his direction to make it up to him.
i'm sorry too that you had a run in with a cunt-bouncer.. but believe me, there's a lot of them EVERYWHERE.
by the way, did you actually SEE luke vibert on friday? cos i didn't! too busy catching up with old mates out in the courtyard.
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-27 11:07 [#01287733]
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xax we probably stood right next to eachother at some point creepy :)
how do u look like,whad did u have on you? (straight guy, seeing 2 girlz at the time :) )
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-27 11:33 [#01287762]
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Man your attitude is so narrow minded... I can see you're angry about the guard chucking you out but who's he, the mayor??? He's hardly representative of the whole 1m population.
I suppose you went all over Birmingham? Because some bits are really nice. The Custard Factory end - Digbeth - is, as a co-worker once told me, 'the arse of Birmingham'. It is really shit round there. Hence why there's a scene growing round there; it always the seedier places they grow from. I agree the bars round there are shite, there are some seriously shady spots and attract some seriously dodgy types. But have you seen Brixton?? That's London, no? If someone stayed in there and went out to Brixton in the evenings I hardly think their opinion would be as glowing as if they went all over.
Did you look around the Bull Ring? Or Cenenary Square? Or the Mail Box? They are awesome. And if you want clubs with more civilized bouncers, go to Broad Street. Extremely vibrant clubbing district.
Brum is GOOD
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-27 13:06 [#01287851]
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come on man ive been around bullring, its the same shit, with more make up
and broad street, just a big street with chain pubs and stores, but still very small town minded, actually i stayed there
dont know where mail box is tho
as for brixton, if u compare brum with brixton, i think brixton is far more metropolitan and vibrant than the whole city of brum, brixton is dirty, and there r a lot of black ppl, but theres culture, theres big city vibe that u cant find in backward industrial brum
btw, sorry if i offended u, i donno if u live there, but i just think that brum is more depressing than most of the cities in serbia
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-27 13:10 [#01287856]
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I live in a suburb outside of it. Lol I'm not offended... but jeez I'm surprised at how bad you think it is. Obviously I'm biased but I really like it.
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-27 13:14 [#01287859]
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i donno, its just that everytime i visit some place where im seeing same ppl over and over, and where im getting the vibe of a small town, it gives me creeps
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-27 13:17 [#01287866]
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btw whats the name of yr town
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-27 13:42 [#01287884]
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Its called Solihull. Its quite a way out, not really like Birmingham. Pantalaimon lives here too if you know him.
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blobula
from BElgraDe on 2004-07-27 16:59 [#01288034]
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tell me more about the music. i'd like to know something about zongamin's set
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-07-27 17:12 [#01288039]
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backward?
haha
typical london attitude.
by the way, isn't the juxtaposition of "backward" and "industrial" close to being a contradiction in terms.
i don't want to get bogged down in petty squabbles over cities, but i really think after visiting digbeth of all places, you're hardly qualified to comment on the (multi)culture of birmingham. you haven't seen any of the city, really. so you don't know what you're talking about.
brixton isn't representative of london by any stretch of the imagination - and nor are the few corners of birmingham you've seen a full picture of the city as a whole.
besides, it's not a competition anyway. the two are different places. i have friends that i stay with regularly in both brum & brixton & i like 'em both in different ways.
if i read correctly and you were referring to brum as "small", then you definitely haven't seen much/any of it. you do realise that it's the second city here, don't you?
oh, and a friendly word of advice.. as i'm pretty sure you're not a racist, you might want to be careful with your wording in future; the way you said that "brixton is dirty, and there r a lot of black ppl, but theres culture" makes it sounds as though:
a) you see black citizens as lacking culture b) you equate black citizens with "dirt", or you somehow hold them responsible for generating all of it.
c) you generally view black citizens as being a drawback rather than an asset to an urban environment.
now, i'm sure it was just a careless mistake; but you wouldn't want to go making us thing you were a racist now, would you?!
;D
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-07-27 17:17 [#01288043]
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Did you go to the supersonic thing?
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-07-27 17:21 [#01288045]
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couldn't make the saturday mate, but i was there on friday night..
you?
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-07-27 17:25 [#01288050]
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No, I was going to but I forgot it was my girlfriends birthday and had to stay in! My friend went though and he enjoyed it but said it've been better if more people had turned up.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-07-27 17:28 [#01288055]
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yeah. friday was busy-ish.. but no where near as rammed as i've seen the medicine bar get at weekends.. that wasn't such a bad thing though. at least i could get a drink when i wanted one.
i had fun. but it would have been nice to go on saturday aswell.
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-27 18:18 [#01288096]
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hmm where to start :)
it cant be typical london attitude, coz im not a londoner, im from belgrade, and i just live here
about brum being small, i know its the second biggest, but how do u explain seeing 3 couples twice throughout the day, separately
i think that in brum theres nothing apart from city centre which is the size of a third of brixton, so that everyone gathers in centre, and ofcorse ppl r goin to get the feeling that its small
i mean, thats probably what determines the size of the city, in culture means
about blacks i personally have nothing against black ppl, but i know that majority of white ppl wouldnt like to live in black neighborhoods because they feel scared there
and in london brixton is considered a dodgy shihole, only because its mostly black
i personally wouldnt mind living there if i had some good deal
and im saying this again, my english friend was even more horrified by the city than me, and he lived all over england...but he said he never saw anything this frustrated and hostile in his country
but then again, maybe its just a wierd coincidence
btw where do u live
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-27 18:20 [#01288098]
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i dont know who zongamin was, no one knew who was playing, coz they didnt have any information neither on the screens nor in the venue
u just had to guess totally ridiculous
and i was suprised by how bad the attendance was
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blobula
from BElgraDe on 2004-07-27 20:10 [#01288201]
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he's crazy japanese disco guy
shame
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