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ecnadniarb
on 2004-07-13 10:00 [#01275103]
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No the simple basic instinct is to have sex. Having sex with a female partner at some point during your active sexual lifespan and producing offspring is the only requirement for procreation. As I say exclusivity is something that humans forced upon themselves.
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JLefrere
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-13 10:01 [#01275105]
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To me lesbian porn is a huge, huge turnoff. The answer is simple, it's all about the man positioning himself in the picture. This also explains why shots of just a girl naked are appealing, it's as if she's offering herself to the man using the pornography, and there's no competition around.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-07-13 10:02 [#01275106]
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Because men view the male actor on the screen as their avatar. They get off pretending to be the guy on the screen.
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JLefrere
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-13 10:03 [#01275107]
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In that case, why are large childbearing hips attractive? Why are big breasts for healthy children attractive?
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-07-13 10:08 [#01275110]
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Because they are natural signs of a woman in a good position to produce offspring.
You seem to be skewing this now as though I am saying straight sex is unnatural.
I am simply saying that so called homosexual feelings aren't as uncommon as people would like to beleive.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-07-13 10:10 [#01275112]
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you wouldn't watch the porn if there was an ugly as fuck man sticking it to a fit woman. For example would you watch a 70 year old man having sex with a teenage girl?
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JLefrere
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-13 10:15 [#01275116]
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You said the basic instinct was to have sex. It isn't, it's to reproduce by having sex. And then to provide for your children and protect them. And you can see exclusivity elsewhere, I can right now looking outside at my doves, they pair up for life.
Anyway, fair enough, we each know what each other thinks about it, and that's the end of it really. I would vote on this thing, but I'm not American. Completely hijacked the thread there :)
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-07-13 10:17 [#01275117]
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No, I wouldn't want to see that. It's becuase his age and decriptitude would detract from the fantasy. It's harder to pretend to be that old dude than someone younger. Anyway, I wouldn't want to watch anyone nailing a teenage girl as i find that pedophilic.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-07-13 10:18 [#01275118]
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actually if you look at the last time this was discussed i actually argued that it was totally unnatural. I just fancied a change today :D
also this topic deserved to be hijacked. i hate cut and paste opinions.
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JLefrere
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-13 10:20 [#01275119]
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Haha well no, likewise I wouldn't enjoy watching a man exactly like me having sex with a 40 stone 90 year old amorphous blob woman. Both people in the porn have to be attractive, but that male positioning thing doesn't mean they have homosexual feelings if they would like to be that big-dicked pornstar right then. I don't know. Maybe it's even better if the man is really attractive, then the guy watching it feels empowered if he places himself in the porn star's position? (no pun intended)
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-07-13 10:21 [#01275123]
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so you have to find the male visually attractive in order to enjoy the experience, and yet from your original comment it was just the female who really played the active role in your enjoyment with the male as simply a displacement tool for yourself.
Teenage girls can be 18 and 19 which isn't peadophilic at all. In the UK 16+ is fair game.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-07-13 10:23 [#01275125]
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but the fact still remains that you have to find the male in the pornographic material sexually physically attractive. It doesn't make you 'gay'....it's just the way it is.
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JLefrere
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-13 10:24 [#01275126]
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Impressive that you can change side like that. I usually just stick with my stubbornness, one strong opinion. Even if someone's right I won't be persuaded that much hehe. But I like being that way. Like...Tony Blair! He *really* should give in now, just say he was wrong, given the situation it isn't wholly his fault anyway.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-07-13 10:27 [#01275128]
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I can see why he doesn't. He has got himself into a situation where any admission wouldn't be viewed as a failing but as an out and out lie. It's a pity because I genuinely believe he did actually go into the Iraq situation with good intentions, and without Blair to reign in the US on occasions it could have been a lot messier than it was. But that is a whole different subject :P
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JLefrere
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-13 10:27 [#01275129]
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Oh of course the woman's attractiveness is more important to me. Sometimes I might find myself forgetting about the man's face and blank it out. But I doubt my porn tastes are the same as every man's. Most of my mates like lesbian porn which I don't get really...
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-07-13 10:29 [#01275130]
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yeah of course, different people have different levels of preferences. personally I view myself as having a strong preference towards females but I am not going to have a downer on people who exist at the other end of the scale.
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JLefrere
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-13 10:31 [#01275132]
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It has been extremely difficult for him. I don't know what choices I would've made in his place, I think he's being roasted a bit unfairly recently, only because we're judging his actions in hindsight. We should be judging them on the state of affairs at the time. I think it's sad that the war has become a vote-loser for the labour party, and that many of those votes may lead to the tories winning, even though they advocated the war regardlessly. Hmmm we'll see.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-07-13 10:41 [#01275139]
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"Genetic Gayness" shall be the name of my new band
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-07-13 11:05 [#01275168]
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I give up. :)
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corrupted-girl
on 2004-07-13 11:11 [#01275172]
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i dont believe in petitions.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-07-13 11:18 [#01275179]
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I don't believe in not believing in things
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corrupted-girl
on 2004-07-13 12:18 [#01275230]
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no, you can't.
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