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offline ecnadniarb on 2004-07-13 10:00 [#01275103]
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No the simple basic instinct is to have sex. Having sex
with a female partner at some point during your active
sexual lifespan and producing offspring is the only
requirement for procreation. As I say exclusivity is
something that humans forced upon themselves.


 

offline JLefrere from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-13 10:01 [#01275105]
Points: 253 Status: Regular



To me lesbian porn is a huge, huge turnoff. The answer is
simple, it's all about the man positioning himself in the
picture. This also explains why shots of just a girl naked
are appealing, it's as if she's offering herself to the man
using the pornography, and there's no competition around.


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-07-13 10:02 [#01275106]
Points: 2064 Status: Lurker | Followup to ecnadniarb: #01275098



Because men view the male actor on the screen as their
avatar. They get off pretending to be the guy on the screen.



 

offline JLefrere from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-13 10:03 [#01275107]
Points: 253 Status: Regular



In that case, why are large childbearing hips attractive?
Why are big breasts for healthy children attractive?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-07-13 10:08 [#01275110]
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Because they are natural signs of a woman in a good position
to produce offspring.

You seem to be skewing this now as though I am saying
straight sex is unnatural.

I am simply saying that so called homosexual feelings aren't
as uncommon as people would like to beleive.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-07-13 10:10 [#01275112]
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you wouldn't watch the porn if there was an ugly as fuck man
sticking it to a fit woman. For example would you watch a
70 year old man having sex with a teenage girl?


 

offline JLefrere from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-13 10:15 [#01275116]
Points: 253 Status: Regular



You said the basic instinct was to have sex. It isn't, it's
to reproduce by having sex. And then to provide for your
children and protect them. And you can see exclusivity
elsewhere, I can right now looking outside at my doves, they
pair up for life.

Anyway, fair enough, we each know what each other thinks
about it, and that's the end of it really. I would vote on
this thing, but I'm not American. Completely hijacked the
thread there :)


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-07-13 10:17 [#01275117]
Points: 2064 Status: Lurker | Followup to ecnadniarb: #01275112



No, I wouldn't want to see that. It's becuase his age and
decriptitude would detract from the fantasy. It's harder to
pretend to be that old dude than someone younger. Anyway, I
wouldn't want to watch anyone nailing a teenage girl as i
find that pedophilic.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-07-13 10:18 [#01275118]
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actually if you look at the last time this was discussed i
actually argued that it was totally unnatural. I just
fancied a change today :D

also this topic deserved to be hijacked. i hate cut and
paste opinions.


 

offline JLefrere from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-13 10:20 [#01275119]
Points: 253 Status: Regular



Haha well no, likewise I wouldn't enjoy watching a man
exactly like me having sex with a 40 stone 90 year old
amorphous blob woman. Both people in the porn have to be
attractive, but that male positioning thing doesn't mean
they have homosexual feelings if they would like to be that
big-dicked pornstar right then. I don't know. Maybe it's
even better if the man is really attractive, then the guy
watching it feels empowered if he places himself in the porn
star's position? (no pun intended)


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-07-13 10:21 [#01275123]
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so you have to find the male visually attractive in order to
enjoy the experience, and yet from your original comment it
was just the female who really played the active role in
your enjoyment with the male as simply a displacement tool
for yourself.

Teenage girls can be 18 and 19 which isn't peadophilic at
all. In the UK 16+ is fair game.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-07-13 10:23 [#01275125]
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but the fact still remains that you have to find the male in
the pornographic material sexually physically attractive.
It doesn't make you 'gay'....it's just the way it is.


 

offline JLefrere from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-13 10:24 [#01275126]
Points: 253 Status: Regular



Impressive that you can change side like that. I usually
just stick with my stubbornness, one strong opinion. Even if
someone's right I won't be persuaded that much hehe. But I
like being that way. Like...Tony Blair! He *really* should
give in now, just say he was wrong, given the situation it
isn't wholly his fault anyway.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-07-13 10:27 [#01275128]
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I can see why he doesn't. He has got himself into a
situation where any admission wouldn't be viewed as a
failing but as an out and out lie. It's a pity because I
genuinely believe he did actually go into the Iraq situation
with good intentions, and without Blair to reign in the US
on occasions it could have been a lot messier than it was.
But that is a whole different subject :P


 

offline JLefrere from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-13 10:27 [#01275129]
Points: 253 Status: Regular



Oh of course the woman's attractiveness is more important to
me. Sometimes I might find myself forgetting about the man's
face and blank it out. But I doubt my porn tastes are the
same as every man's. Most of my mates like lesbian porn
which I don't get really...


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-07-13 10:29 [#01275130]
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yeah of course, different people have different levels of
preferences. personally I view myself as having a strong
preference towards females but I am not going to have a
downer on people who exist at the other end of the scale.


 

offline JLefrere from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-13 10:31 [#01275132]
Points: 253 Status: Regular



It has been extremely difficult for him. I don't know what
choices I would've made in his place, I think he's being
roasted a bit unfairly recently, only because we're judging
his actions in hindsight. We should be judging them on the
state of affairs at the time. I think it's sad that the war
has become a vote-loser for the labour party, and that many
of those votes may lead to the tories winning, even though
they advocated the war regardlessly. Hmmm we'll see.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2004-07-13 10:41 [#01275139]
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"Genetic Gayness" shall be the name of my new band


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-07-13 11:05 [#01275168]
Points: 2064 Status: Lurker | Followup to ecnadniarb: #01275123



I give up. :)


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-07-13 11:11 [#01275172]
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i dont believe in petitions.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-07-13 11:18 [#01275179]
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I don't believe in not believing in things


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-07-13 12:18 [#01275230]
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no, you can't.


 


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