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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-07-03 15:58 [#01265000]
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ive only used reason and i want to hear your opinion about the best music programs
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-07-03 16:03 [#01265005]
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FL Studio 4 would beat Reason in a fight. definatly.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-07-03 16:05 [#01265009]
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I use Buzz... like it a lot. It's a bit like reason (really, it is).
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-07-03 16:08 [#01265013]
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reason 2.5 fl is a tracker, nothing more, well, with additional vst plug-ins and some twatty knobs.
reason is much more freindly in use, look, and work.the difference in prize shows that also. and position of propellerheadz. and everything else.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-07-03 16:08 [#01265015]
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I also like FL Studio. Cubase would be better for multitrack recording of a real live band though. Or Nuendo or Protools.
I'm looking forward to trying the new Ableton Live - they've finally added the ability to host instruments and record midi. It's still in beta testing.
Reason seems too limited. Hate the sequencer, hate that you can't use your own plugins.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-07-03 16:09 [#01265017]
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FL is a tracker??? I didn't know that. Buzz is a tracker though.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-07-03 16:10 [#01265019]
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couldnt disagree with you more there...
i use both... well use too... fucked reason off quite a while ago because of its unfriendly interface... but it is a matter of comfort with those things... if your gonna get a bit more serious you gotta move on to the obvious anyway (logic, pro tools) to save from losing seeeerious top end.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-07-03 16:14 [#01265022]
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i hope not reason is the best i think is boring.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-07-03 16:14 [#01265024]
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i wouldnt call it a tracker at all, thats crazy talk
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2004-07-03 16:15 [#01265025]
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I think the jury is outon that one mate.
Reason is great, i use in conjuction with cool edit pro 2 and audiomulch i sometimes use live as well.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-07-03 16:15 [#01265026]
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Do you know any place you can download extra sounds
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loneranger
from Sweden on 2004-07-03 16:46 [#01265049]
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sök efter Barria alta, longest days, mining for heart, you´ve got a way, love is not a ghost med the sound på slsk
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-03 17:04 [#01265061]
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i use FL 3.5.6 and cool edit pro 2.0
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-07-03 17:12 [#01265062]
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Logic 6 Pro
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-07-03 17:16 [#01265068]
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is that for pc & mac?
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-07-03 17:20 [#01265071]
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6 is mac only...
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-07-03 17:35 [#01265086]
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i can heare my heat beat in these phones
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-07-03 17:52 [#01265104]
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i have to point out that FL is not a tracker in anyway ever
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-07-03 18:05 [#01265114]
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yeah... they dropped windows support... seeing as apple bought emagic
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-07-03 18:24 [#01265138]
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fl=fruty loops
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cie jiks mawp
from motion to descend (Australia) on 2004-07-03 19:19 [#01265204]
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Reason can be quite versatile, its all about abusing the interface. I use it most as well as wavelab5 and recycle. Recently i'm getting into Audacity, simple little sequencer that has all the lovely cut paste and record options that reason don't. My all time fav is SoundEdit II back when i used a powermac. If anyone can point me to a link for this little ditty again i will be eternally grateful and buy you icecream.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-07-03 19:50 [#01265232]
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it's an neverending question...
maybe it's reason,maybe it's FL (not) or even steinberg's nuendo / cubase.
... nuendo and reason!!!
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-07-04 01:45 [#01265401]
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i still say that fl is a tracker, lets say its kinda proffesional tracker.
cubase is a sequencer, its purpose is to clear up and mesh the sound, not creating whole songs.
ive had logic 5 for some time, and to be honest i used it only once - to see how it looks, then i de-installed it.
its all imo thingy, it depends on many factirs, but still, reason is the best.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2004-07-04 02:22 [#01265413]
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cubase with reason as a slave imo
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-07-04 02:28 [#01265415]
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FL has the most efficient interface for getting down and dirty with sequencing.
I've been experimenting with sonar 3, fl studio and a combination of external hardware.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2004-07-04 02:39 [#01265419]
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FL Studio = gives you some sick oppertuneties to make some speed'ish music, but the sound is a bit harder to get.
Reason = Good sound on almost anything, but the knowledge-base is a little bigger. You are limited on the overview IMO
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-07-04 02:44 [#01265421]
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That's why ya gotta rewire the fruity to a proper audio sequencer.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2004-07-04 07:10 [#01265496]
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the reason synths and fx are are among the best i can find
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-07-04 07:16 [#01265499]
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I only use wavelab, goldwave, occasionally audacity and sometimes granulab. Audacity is shit, granulab is horribly unstable, but the other two are decent.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-07-04 07:38 [#01265506]
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Max/MSP with your sequencer of choice.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2004-07-04 07:39 [#01265507]
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max/msp comes recomended
i dont use it but from the stuff ive heard from ppl who use it is good
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2004-07-04 07:40 [#01265508]
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beat me to it
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Dozer
on 2004-07-04 09:02 [#01265545]
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Buzz forever...
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handoverthecart
on 2004-07-04 09:35 [#01265548]
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I use buzz.
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Schika
from Heidelberg (Germany) on 2004-07-04 10:18 [#01265570]
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ProTools Logic Audio Platinum Reason ReCycle Absynth MetaSynth
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goodbyegonzaguo
from Edinburgh (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-04 10:36 [#01265590]
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Each program has its advantages but I'd say I use Reason+Recycle the most.
I think Max/MSP has been the most powerfull but my demo trial period has run out and I can't afford to buy full package.
Reaktor is a treat as well.
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Schika
from Heidelberg (Germany) on 2004-07-04 10:51 [#01265615]
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Yes definetly! But Reaktor is not good programmed. This app needs a lot of CPU power to run well.
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Q4Z2X
on 2004-07-04 10:57 [#01265620]
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mario paint
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Schika
from Heidelberg (Germany) on 2004-07-04 10:59 [#01265623]
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lol
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-07-04 11:10 [#01265638]
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Not true at all. You might get that impression from some of the very big flashy synths that ship with it, like green matrix. But there's plenty of great synths in the user library that sound amazing and don't hog the CPU. And you can cut down any instrument until it does only what you need it to.
You also need to know how to optimize your instruments, just like any other programming environment - know where to put what module and why, and when you can make some modules monophonic in a polyphonic instrument, etc.
Overall I find it much more efficient and versatile than other VST instruments that have come out lately like the Arturia emulations, or Sytrus. Sure those sound great but they eat shitloads of cpu.
One of the great things about Reaktor is that you get the amazing velocity-mapped sampler modules that are the basis of Kontakt - except you decide how you want your sampler to behave - maybe delay and slow the sample and feed it back into itself as frequency modulation, then add a stepped lfo to the FM amount, and add a 5 or 7 step filter cutoff gate so you get polyrhythmic effects in a 4/4 track... crazy shit.
If you have a pirated version and you can't get into the user library to download some of the more exotic ensembles then you have no idea what this sick little puppy is capable of.
I got JWH's Studio 4.2 sequencers so now I can do lots of stuff, even complete tracks, in just Reaktor. It's a whole different way of working, almost like using a hardware sequencer. Makes you approach music differently.
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