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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-03 01:25 [#01264179]
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This thread is for architecture, since I couldn't find one for architecture in general with the search. I like what's come out of Cesar Pelli & Associates, especially Two International Financel Center in Hong Kong (below). Skyscrapers are one of the greatest things (if that makes sense, I don't know, I'm kind of stoned.)
About "modernism". I don't know, it just seems like some of it goes without practical functionality and becomes just a big sculpture. Commentary, very enterntaining
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nacmat
on 2004-07-03 01:32 [#01264182]
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I ve started some about architecture... but great!! one more is alays welcome
I ll post some pics later
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-07-03 01:34 [#01264183]
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my girlfriend is in her 4th year of becoming an architect... she has some amazing stuff in books, i just couldnt be bothered scanning it in...
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-03 01:35 [#01264184]
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Ah yeah, i remember you study architecture. I'm thinking of switching to it myself.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-07-03 01:41 [#01264185]
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i like playing around in autocad and archicad tho, its fun, can do some cool art stuff
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nacmat
on 2004-07-03 01:42 [#01264186]
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its nice but its also a pain in the ass
in madrid, architecture (when I started to study it) is a long degree. first you study for 6 years and then you have to do a final project which normally it takes 1 year to do... but I he had some problems and I have been 2 years with it... will finish after summer
I am tired
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Dozer
on 2004-07-03 01:51 [#01264193]
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Futurist Architect
Nice work!
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nacmat
on 2004-07-03 02:17 [#01264196]
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she is great
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zetre
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-07-03 08:05 [#01264409]
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Cesar Pelli is a close second behind Ricardo Bofill in my top 5 worst architects list. But to each their own..
Zaha is OK tho, I'm beginning to loosen up and dig her a bit more than I used to. I thought that link would lead to some Italian futurist like DelElia or something, but I guess you could say she's pretty futuristic..
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-03 09:13 [#01264482]
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I think you're quite right about Ricardo Bofill.
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nacmat
on 2004-07-03 10:34 [#01264616]
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you both are right about bofill
glad to hear that
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-03 11:03 [#01264677]
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Agreement! Heh... :| =:|
Well I guess the Cesar Pelli firm won the design for the tallest building in Spain, in Madrid. You live there, yeah? Torre de Cristal, set for 2007, I think it looks pretty swank.
I'll admit I don't quite like the petronas towers (also cesar pelli).
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zetre
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-07-03 11:20 [#01264697]
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Yeah , that one's pretty nice, I'll admit that. It's just that Pelli is building sooo much and the vast majority of what I've seen is just total crap. It's scary too see that some of the architects making the biggest mark on the earth today are far from the best ones. Bofill is also building millions of squaremetres..
Btw, that link to eyesore of the month is funny. That's like the architecture world's response to Vice's do's and don'ts..
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-07-03 11:24 [#01264699]
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Am I the only here who finds Le Corbusier's Architecture BUTT UGLY ?
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zetre
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-07-03 11:33 [#01264712]
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I'm not the biggest LeCorbusier fan.. He's got loads of different periods tho and some of his stuff is wicked.
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zetre
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-07-03 11:33 [#01264714]
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He's to blame for a lot of shit too, though..
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nacmat
on 2004-07-03 12:36 [#01264778]
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he is a genious and his genious doesnt depend on his architecture being ulgy or beautiful
he changed architecture in the whole world
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-07-03 12:40 [#01264783]
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Mmm, if you could be a bit more precises....Modern architecture bottomed out between 1960 and 1980; there's barely a single large building from that period that isn't butt-ugly....you know Im no expert in Architecture.....but I grew up in a very ugly neigbourhood.....
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-07-03 12:42 [#01264786]
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"machines for living".....
LeCorbusier..arrogant cunt and a blight on the 20th Century
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nacmat
on 2004-07-03 12:43 [#01264787]
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I cannot teach you
if you dont like it its ok with me
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-07-03 12:55 [#01264795]
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What do you think about Zaha Hadid getting that award?
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childkiller
from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 12:59 [#01264796]
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i dislike all of the International Style (where most ideas on "the house as a machine for living in" were developed). The modernist style (usually refered to) failed in many aspects, and was nothing but a reflection on the industrial revolution of the beggining of the 20th century.
Now, Le Corbusier did come up with a lot of interesting concepts, such as La Maison Dominò and some radical plans on urbanism (The Voisin plan for Paris), but still, the prescence of the architect as a cientist that denies landscape is too much for me to ignore. I hate (therefore) most of the modernist architecture pieces, despite their beauty or euclidian and purist nature.
I find much more apealing the concepts of a new generation of "anti-euclidian" architects, managing concepts of surface fields, operative topographies and dynamic topologies such as Greg Lynn or F.O.A.
I am now finishing my masters thesis in architecture, very much in these last terms, a simbiosis between landscape, surface, datascapes and fluxes....all which concieve an integrated and dynamic perception of architecture.
Amen.
saludos nacho nacmat desde santiago de chile!!
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childkiller
from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:01 [#01264798]
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(i don`t know why "house" or "beauty" were highlited as links)
oh well.....
monoid, Zaha is an awesome architect. Her ability to develop new and interesting forms and topologies deserve her the award.
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childkiller
from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:03 [#01264799]
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one last thing......the concepts of french architects Claude Parent and Paul Virilio (1960`s) regarding the "oblique function" or the "habitable circulation" surpass most of the modernist ideas.
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zetre
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-07-03 13:05 [#01264800]
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Hey, you posted some of your stuff here a long time ago, didn't you? The park thingie..
That was cool. Got any more?
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childkiller
from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:08 [#01264802]
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loads. whenever i get the time i will post them
;D
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-07-03 13:09 [#01264803]
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i hate architect's
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-03 13:10 [#01264805]
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You hate architect's what?
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childkiller
from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:11 [#01264806]
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funny, i thought YOU were one
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-07-03 13:20 [#01264816]
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no, im civil engineer,we're the ones who are responsible for constructions to be stable and , well, to be good.
architect's are just messing around with stupid ideas like "hey! what if this scycraper would have 465656 floors and a swiming pool on the roof ? ".
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zetre
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-07-03 13:24 [#01264824]
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Yeah, but what IF this scycraper would have 465656 floors and a swiming pool on the roof ?
That'd be fucking cool, wouldn't it?
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-03 13:25 [#01264826]
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a civil engineer? aren't you like 16 years old?
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childkiller
from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:25 [#01264829]
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ahahhahah.....if there were no architects...then civil engineers would design our cities, then we would be living in mario bros` first game. that is....two dimensional squared and rational cities.
I really hate that cocky arrogant "we`re the ones responsible for" crap, civil engineers couldn`t be able to design a nice door knob. (they could make it work perfectly tho, no doubt about that)
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-03 13:26 [#01264830]
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A building with that many floors would probably be more than 1000 miles tall and so the swimming pool wouldn't be much fun in the vacuum of space.
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childkiller
from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:28 [#01264834]
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civil engineers are the higlight of rational thoughts....which (combined with a cocky attitude) make them the kind of people i most dispise. (and have had to deal with them in a few constructions i`ve designed), therefore, i know they`re only good at making something work, but have no creative drive.
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childkiller
from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:29 [#01264838]
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(why the fuck do some of my words come up highlighted?)
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-07-03 13:31 [#01264840]
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I really hate that cocky arrogant "we`re the ones responsible for" crap, civil engineers couldn`t be able to design a nice door knob. (they could make it work perfectly tho, no doubt about that)
hahaha, anyway, we can design also, its just thje ppl wants architect's to design, not us, i dont blame them. its not true that we could design simple floor - were just not messing with details as much as architects - for me construction must be stable , for architects - it must be beautifl. thats the difference.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-07-03 13:33 [#01264841]
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yeah, its tru, that most of them are not creative - thats the effect of studying process i think - just calculating and calculating, it really can make robots out of people.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-03 13:34 [#01264842]
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It's probably spyware. I had one that made words like "game(s)" turn into a link to this website. Fuckers. Run your spyware killa software.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-03 13:35 [#01264843]
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We can't actually see the links though. "home" and "beauty" seem characteristic of that sort of thing.
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zetre
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-07-03 13:35 [#01264844]
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The swinning pool would be covered by a glass cupola resembling a gigantic glans.
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childkiller
from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:36 [#01264845]
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glad we came to an understanding dood
;D
i`m out
ps. architecture shouldn`t be beautiful nor stable. it should fit specific demands: sismic, programatic, compositional demands.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-07-03 13:38 [#01264846]
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yes, architecture = form + function, eh ?
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nacmat
on 2004-07-03 13:41 [#01264850]
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best thread of the month
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childkiller
from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:41 [#01264851]
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that`s the modernist approach "form follows function"
function in combination with many other elements define form
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childkiller
from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:45 [#01264862]
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word!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-07-03 14:15 [#01264897]
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Man, I love architecture... I save every remotely interesting architecturally related pic, thousands of them. If I had the drive and the motivation, I'd love to be one. But I don't like how Nacmat has hinted that you have to work hard... nuh uh, that ain't for me then. I'll just have to be content with marvelling at it.
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k_maty
on 2004-07-06 16:35 [#01268170]
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This is a little bit off topic, but you should check out carfree cities, its a little far fetched but a very intresting concept. They have it planned out including building design. Imagine a city like New York without cars, it probably wouldn't even be noisy.
There are a ton of links, and some cool articles here, the ones by Richard Risemberg are pretty good I think, this one was funny.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-06 16:39 [#01268179]
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God that would be great, people actually getting of their lazy asses and WALKING.
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k_maty
on 2004-07-06 16:45 [#01268193]
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention car share, for when you need a car. You pay like 10 bucks a month and share cars that are spaced out around the city for the members to use, for moving large objects or visiting relatives or something, its ongoing in the uk, canada, and some cities in the us, like portland.
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