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offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-03 01:25 [#01264179]
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This thread is for architecture, since I couldn't find one
for architecture in general with the search. I like what's
come out of Cesar Pelli & Associates, especially Two International
Financel Center in Hong Kong (below). Skyscrapers are one
of the greatest things (if that makes sense, I don't know,
I'm kind of stoned.)

About "modernism". I don't know, it just seems like some of
it goes without practical functionality and becomes just a
big sculpture. Commentary, very enterntaining


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offline nacmat on 2004-07-03 01:32 [#01264182]
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I ve started some about architecture... but great!! one more
is alays welcome

I ll post some pics later


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-07-03 01:34 [#01264183]
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my girlfriend is in her 4th year of becoming an architect...
she has some amazing stuff in books, i just couldnt be
bothered scanning it in...


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-03 01:35 [#01264184]
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Ah yeah, i remember you study architecture. I'm thinking of
switching to it myself.


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-07-03 01:41 [#01264185]
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i like playing around in autocad and archicad tho, its fun,
can do some cool art stuff


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offline nacmat on 2004-07-03 01:42 [#01264186]
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its nice but its also a pain in the ass

in madrid, architecture (when I started to study it) is a
long degree. first you study for 6 years and then you have
to do a final project which normally it takes 1 year to
do... but I he had some problems and I have been 2 years
with it... will finish after summer

I am tired


 

offline Dozer on 2004-07-03 01:51 [#01264193]
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Futurist Architect

Nice work!


 

offline nacmat on 2004-07-03 02:17 [#01264196]
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she is great


 

offline zetre from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-07-03 08:05 [#01264409]
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Cesar Pelli is a close second behind Ricardo Bofill in my
top 5 worst architects list. But to each their own..

Zaha is OK tho, I'm beginning to loosen up and dig her a bit
more than I used to. I thought that link would lead to some
Italian futurist like DelElia or something, but I guess you
could say she's pretty futuristic..


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-03 09:13 [#01264482]
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I think you're quite right about Ricardo Bofill.



 

offline nacmat on 2004-07-03 10:34 [#01264616]
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you both are right about bofill

glad to hear that


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-03 11:03 [#01264677]
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Agreement! Heh... :| =:|

Well I guess the Cesar Pelli firm won the design for the
tallest building in Spain, in Madrid. You live there, yeah?
Torre de Cristal, set for 2007, I think it looks pretty
swank.

I'll admit I don't quite like the petronas towers (also
cesar pelli).


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offline zetre from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-07-03 11:20 [#01264697]
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Yeah , that one's pretty nice, I'll admit that.
It's just that Pelli is building sooo much and the vast
majority of what I've seen is just total crap. It's scary
too see that some of the architects making the biggest mark
on the earth today are far from the best ones. Bofill is
also building millions of squaremetres..

Btw, that link to eyesore of the month is funny. That's like
the architecture world's response to Vice's do's and
don'ts..


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2004-07-03 11:24 [#01264699]
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Am I the only here who finds Le Corbusier's Architecture
BUTT UGLY ?


 

offline zetre from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-07-03 11:33 [#01264712]
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I'm not the biggest LeCorbusier fan..
He's got loads of different periods tho and some of his
stuff is wicked.


 

offline zetre from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-07-03 11:33 [#01264714]
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He's to blame for a lot of shit too, though..


 

offline nacmat on 2004-07-03 12:36 [#01264778]
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he is a genious and his genious doesnt depend on his
architecture being ulgy or beautiful

he changed architecture in the whole world


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2004-07-03 12:40 [#01264783]
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Mmm, if you could be a bit more precises....Modern
architecture bottomed out between 1960 and 1980; there's
barely a single large building from that period that isn't
butt-ugly....you know Im no expert in Architecture.....but I
grew up in a very ugly neigbourhood.....


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2004-07-03 12:42 [#01264786]
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"machines for living".....

LeCorbusier..arrogant cunt and a blight on the 20th Century



 

offline nacmat on 2004-07-03 12:43 [#01264787]
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I cannot teach you

if you dont like it its ok with me


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2004-07-03 12:55 [#01264795]
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What do you think about Zaha Hadid getting that award?


 

offline childkiller from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 12:59 [#01264796]
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i dislike all of the International Style (where most ideas
on "the house as a machine for living in" were developed).
The modernist style (usually refered to) failed in many
aspects, and was nothing but a reflection on the industrial
revolution of the beggining of the 20th century.

Now, Le Corbusier did come up with a lot of interesting
concepts, such as La Maison Dominò and some radical plans
on urbanism (The Voisin plan for Paris), but still, the
prescence of the architect as a cientist that denies
landscape is too much for me to ignore. I hate (therefore)
most of the modernist architecture pieces, despite their
beauty or euclidian and purist nature.

I find much more apealing the concepts of a new generation
of "anti-euclidian" architects, managing concepts of surface
fields, operative topographies and dynamic topologies such
as Greg Lynn or F.O.A.
I am now finishing my masters thesis in architecture, very
much in these last terms, a simbiosis between landscape,
surface, datascapes and fluxes....all which concieve an
integrated and dynamic perception of architecture.

Amen.

saludos nacho nacmat desde santiago de chile!!


 

offline childkiller from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:01 [#01264798]
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(i don`t know why "house" or "beauty" were highlited as
links)

oh well.....

monoid, Zaha is an awesome architect. Her ability to
develop new and interesting forms and topologies deserve her
the award.


 

offline childkiller from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:03 [#01264799]
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one last thing......the concepts of french architects Claude
Parent and Paul Virilio (1960`s) regarding the "oblique
function" or the "habitable circulation" surpass most of the
modernist ideas.


 

offline zetre from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-07-03 13:05 [#01264800]
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Hey, you posted some of your stuff here a long time ago,
didn't you? The park thingie..
That was cool. Got any more?


 

offline childkiller from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:08 [#01264802]
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loads. whenever i get the time i will post them

;D


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-07-03 13:09 [#01264803]
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i hate architect's


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-03 13:10 [#01264805]
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You hate architect's what?


 

offline childkiller from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:11 [#01264806]
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funny, i thought YOU were one


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-07-03 13:20 [#01264816]
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no, im civil engineer,we're the ones who are responsible for
constructions to be stable and , well, to be good.
architect's are just messing around with stupid ideas like
"hey! what if this scycraper would have 465656 floors and a
swiming pool on the roof ? ".


 

offline zetre from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-07-03 13:24 [#01264824]
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Yeah, but what IF this scycraper would have 465656 floors
and a swiming pool on the roof ?
That'd be fucking cool, wouldn't it?



 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-03 13:25 [#01264826]
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a civil engineer? aren't you like 16 years old?


 

offline childkiller from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:25 [#01264829]
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ahahhahah.....if there were no architects...then civil
engineers would design our cities, then we would be living
in mario bros` first game. that is....two dimensional
squared and rational cities.

I really hate that cocky arrogant "we`re the ones
responsible for" crap, civil engineers couldn`t be able to
design a nice door knob. (they could make it work perfectly
tho, no doubt about that)


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-03 13:26 [#01264830]
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A building with that many floors would probably be more than
1000 miles tall and so the swimming pool wouldn't be much
fun in the vacuum of space.


 

offline childkiller from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:28 [#01264834]
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civil engineers are the higlight of rational
thoughts....which (combined with a cocky attitude) make them
the kind of people i most dispise. (and have had to deal
with them in a few constructions i`ve designed), therefore,
i know they`re only good at making something work, but have
no creative drive.


 

offline childkiller from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:29 [#01264838]
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(why the fuck do some of my words come up highlighted?)


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-07-03 13:31 [#01264840]
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I really hate that cocky arrogant "we`re the ones
responsible for" crap, civil engineers couldn`t be able to
design a nice door knob. (they could make it work perfectly
tho, no doubt about that)


hahaha,
anyway, we can design also, its just thje ppl wants
architect's to design, not us, i dont blame them. its not
true that we could design simple floor - were just not
messing with details as much as architects - for me
construction must be stable , for architects - it must be
beautifl. thats the difference.


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-07-03 13:33 [#01264841]
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yeah, its tru, that most of them are not creative - thats
the effect of studying process i think - just calculating
and calculating, it really can make robots out of people.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-03 13:34 [#01264842]
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It's probably spyware. I had one that made words like
"game(s)" turn into a link to this website. Fuckers. Run
your spyware killa software.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-03 13:35 [#01264843]
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We can't actually see the links though. "home" and "beauty"
seem characteristic of that sort of thing.


 

offline zetre from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-07-03 13:35 [#01264844]
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The swinning pool would be covered by a glass cupola
resembling a gigantic glans.



 

offline childkiller from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:36 [#01264845]
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glad we came to an understanding dood

;D

i`m out

ps. architecture shouldn`t be beautiful nor stable. it
should fit specific demands: sismic, programatic,
compositional demands.


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-07-03 13:38 [#01264846]
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yes, architecture = form + function, eh ?


 

offline nacmat on 2004-07-03 13:41 [#01264850]
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best thread of the month


 

offline childkiller from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:41 [#01264851]
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that`s the modernist approach
"form follows function"

function in combination with many other elements define form


 

offline childkiller from santiago (Chile) on 2004-07-03 13:45 [#01264862]
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word!


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-07-03 14:15 [#01264897]
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Man, I love architecture... I save every remotely
interesting architecturally related pic, thousands of them.
If I had the drive and the motivation, I'd love to be one.
But I don't like how Nacmat has hinted that you have to work
hard... nuh uh, that ain't for me then. I'll just have to be
content with marvelling at it.


 

offline k_maty on 2004-07-06 16:35 [#01268170]
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This is a little bit off topic, but you should check out
carfree cities, its a little far fetched but a very
intresting concept. They have it planned out including
building design. Imagine a city like New York without cars,
it probably wouldn't even be noisy.

There are a ton of links, and some cool articles
here, the ones by Richard Risemberg are pretty
good I think, this one was funny.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-06 16:39 [#01268179]
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God that would be great, people actually getting of their
lazy asses and WALKING.


 

offline k_maty on 2004-07-06 16:45 [#01268193]
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention car share, for when you
need a car. You pay like 10 bucks a month and share
cars that are spaced out around the city for the members to
use, for moving large objects or visiting relatives or
something, its ongoing in the uk, canada, and some cities in
the us, like portland.


 


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