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offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-26 16:56 [#01257211]
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i love nirvana, melvins, alice in chains, stone temple
pilots, soundgarden, pearl jam, jesus lizard,...

i love it!!!


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2004-06-26 16:57 [#01257212]
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All right.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-26 16:58 [#01257214]
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melvins and nirvana are my favourite by far btw.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-26 17:48 [#01257240]
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All right.


 

offline 3052 on 2004-06-26 17:49 [#01257242]
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Wow man back to 90's

Some best days of my life!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-26 17:51 [#01257246]
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mine too...it was awesome!!!


 

offline 3052 on 2004-06-26 17:53 [#01257249]
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Too bad I was not that old..... then I moved to Canada.....

Everything changed.

MTV wasn't mtv anymore.... it got coded... Germans put
VIVA... it was STUPID.... No 120minutes on mtv... girls who
were grunge started dressing like bimbo sluts... everything
changed...

Monopoly was dominant... new bands appeared with CRAP....

Everything is still sinking.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-26 18:02 [#01257253]
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i was just the right age i guess...im old see.

i wonder if something as big as that can happen again...or
if another band like nirvana can emerge - not music wise,
but more like alternative music become mainstream...perhaps
idm could become mainstream :) i'd be fun too see afx start
selling 10 million copies of albums.


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2004-06-26 18:03 [#01257258]
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Get the Mad Season album "Above".

I missed out on them first time around - Layne "Alice in
Chains" Staley on vocals - Pearl Jam guitarist and Screeming
Trees rhythm section.

"River of Deceit" is my favorite song right now!

Grunge is one of those scenes that everyone still loves - If
there were a few decent grunge bands around now, with REAL
lead singers with interesting lives and backgrounds, not
just some bloke with long hair, then I think it'd be every
bit as popular as it was in the 90's..


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2004-06-26 18:08 [#01257265]
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I had a nirvana hoodie.

Wow, how cool am i.


 

offline 3052 on 2004-06-26 18:08 [#01257266]
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There is one slight problem... People here sem to believe in
uniform. I could not understand it for a LONG LONG time.
It happens that people who are listening to (just to use an
extreme example) Marylin Manson (lets say) are really as
dumb as lyrics are preaching..... You can RARELY find a
good/educated person who likes good old fashioned grunge.
Something MUST be wrong with them.... "Shabanism" (sorry
there is no word in English for that !!!!) is for the middle
class, and middle class is most dominant ....

There won't be any great bands Like Nirvana... Old bands
got old. People mellowed down... Metallica cut their
hair... It is all about money....

West is still 5 years late for Europe....


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-26 18:09 [#01257268]
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i wonder what it would be like if nirvana were still
around...i bet electronic music wouldn't be as popular as it
is nowdays.

im going to check that album...thanks!


 

offline 3052 on 2004-06-26 18:10 [#01257271]
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"i'd be fun too see afx start
selling 10 million copies of albums. "

Yeah that is why I loved come to daddy so much... The whole
album was just out of this world.... That is why I hated
druqks so much.... I was expecting a come to daddy
equivalent.



 

offline 3052 on 2004-06-26 18:11 [#01257274]
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I was thinking few days ago what it would be like if singer
didn't shoot himself.... Someone would probably shoot him
instead. Mafia holds the strings here.


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2004-06-26 18:12 [#01257278]
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If Nirvana was still around Kurt would be doing electronic
music!

He was well into new wave and drum machine stuff apparently
- Heard him is one of his later interviews saying that he
wanted to experiment with that stuff.

Do many of you know he produced a Melvins album before
Nirvana was even known about - So he wasn't a stranger
behind a mixing desk.


 

offline 3052 on 2004-06-26 18:15 [#01257280]
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No I never knew that. He was a singer with a guitar in my
mind... But I would not be supriced if he appeared on a
stage with a lapt-top... or have a new member of a band who
is a techie...

I am just guessing... I never knew the guy :)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-26 18:16 [#01257282]
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"If Nirvana was still around Kurt would be doing electronic
music! "

can't imagine that at all!! :)

i knew they were big friends with melvins and he often
played with them, but i had no idea about producing their
album...i thought he wasn't too good at playing guitar...at
least not until "nevermind"...


 

offline 3052 on 2004-06-26 18:22 [#01257286]
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I knew for Hole before Bleach (thanks to brother.... I
wasn't even a freaking teenager then). I saw Hole live
once... by accident (because I wanted to see other
bands).... I never liked Hole..

heheh.... there was one girl who wrote "Hole" on here
forehead. I was laughing to death...... Like there was
really a hole in her mind.... Singer acted like a slut on a
stage.... was probably drunk or something.... A very bad
impression was left behind

BUT there was that girl with a hole on her head. It was
RIGHT THERE. the mind of audience.... They don't care as
long as sex is presented as an invention to them....a thing
of freedom... like they need to be freed from some shit
anyway....

Idiots.... Morons....


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-26 18:23 [#01257287]
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i hate


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2004-06-26 18:26 [#01257289]
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Haha, courtney shot that motherfucker anyway.

Hegemony happens. The most "interesting" elements of the
"new thing" get bought up by major labels with hella money,
diluted for the mainstream audience, and repackaged without
any of the usually anti-corporate elements.


 

offline 3052 on 2004-06-26 18:27 [#01257292]
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In conclusion, I will never get rich by making music :)

Take care I must go.

Later!!!

I hope keys+ woks for you (tolstoyed)....


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-26 18:30 [#01257293]
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i don't think signing foe geffen changed their music...why
not take the opportunity...it's easier to do what you like
with more money, and it doesn't necessarily mean less
artistic freedom...imo.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-26 18:31 [#01257295]
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yeah, i'll try that thing you linked to...but i'll do it
tomorrow...kinda tired right now :) thanks!


 

offline 3052 on 2004-06-26 18:58 [#01257306]
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ME? More money?

I am still pulling things out of a 300Mhz PC....

Freedom?
That does not comply.... Freedom means bum here. Good life
means a robot.

"Haha, courtney shot that motherfucker anyway."
Hahahaha yeah what if I come overthere to shoot YOU so next
generation of invalids can laugh at someone's death.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-06-26 19:00 [#01257307]
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kurt cobain helped produce some songs on the melvins album
Houdini. he played guest guitar on one song.


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2004-06-26 19:21 [#01257316]
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I think after Im Utero, Kurt would have walked away from
Nirvana and faded into obscurity a bit - Then he'd have gone
off and pursued his New Wave thing.

I think he'd be making crazy drum machine/noise music by now
- I really can see that.

A lot of his fellow Sub Pop'ers went down that road after
'94.

Any Scratch Acid fans here? One of KC's favorite bands.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-26 20:09 [#01257347]
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he wanted to go further into the acoustic music he was
making at that time, apparently.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-06-26 20:14 [#01257351]
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yeah, kurt cobain preferred recording banging on a table
rather than use a drum machine for his demos (when real
drums were unavailable), so i doubt he'd be interested in
exclusively electronic music.

i have loved scratch acid for years - one of the most
under-appreciated punk bands ever. they were excellent.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-06-26 20:18 [#01257358]
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I can't really say I'm big fan of grunge, it's too... well,
grungy and dirty. I like ordered, clean guitar music, a la
Television, the Go Betweens and the Soft Boys. But heavier
groups did mean a lot to me back in the day, I have really
fond memories of all those popular grunge bands...
Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, the whole deal.

OUTshined, OUTshined, OUTshined!


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2004-06-27 00:08 [#01257466]
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its the music of my home town!

i guess i kinda like it.


 

offline nacmat on 2004-06-27 01:36 [#01257486]
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I also love the 90s
they were also good days of my life

not the best though


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-06-27 04:33 [#01257616]
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i read an interview shortly before he died where he was
saying the creative chemistry of nirvana probably wouldn't
last another album.

he didn't mention acoustic stuff, or drum machine stuff, but
he was talking about some kind of jazz project.

i just don't think he was strong enough though. he'd been in
quite a mess for a long time, and would have really had to
sort himself out before he could have done anything
constructive with his life.
some people get themselves together when they hit rock
bottom. others give up. i really don't think cobain was the
latter.

as for the band's popularity.. i don't think it could have
lasted another ten years at the level it was; whether they'd
all been positive, stable individuals or not. too much
politics, too many drugs.

pity.

i never really liked many of the other "grunge" bands
though. seemed to me to be a case of other labels rushing in
& signing up nirvana's friends and associates in order to
cash in on the 'scene'.. a lot of those other bands that
followed in nirvana's wake just weren't very good.

a bit like that awful 'brit pop' explosion here in the uk in
the mid nineties. i few of the bands that were included
under that meaningless umbrella remained fiercely
independant, changed with time & are still going now. but
how many others sank without trace. music tv seemed to be
full of them every week - i can't even remember their names
now.

they all had the same haircut though.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-06-27 04:51 [#01257630]
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i don't love anything anymorre.


 

offline nacmat on 2004-06-27 04:52 [#01257631]
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too young to stop loving


 


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