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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-26 16:56 [#01257211]
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i love nirvana, melvins, alice in chains, stone temple pilots, soundgarden, pearl jam, jesus lizard,...
i love it!!!
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-06-26 16:57 [#01257212]
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All right.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-26 16:58 [#01257214]
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melvins and nirvana are my favourite by far btw.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-26 17:48 [#01257240]
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All right.
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3052
on 2004-06-26 17:49 [#01257242]
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Wow man back to 90's
Some best days of my life!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-26 17:51 [#01257246]
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mine too...it was awesome!!!
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3052
on 2004-06-26 17:53 [#01257249]
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Too bad I was not that old..... then I moved to Canada.....
Everything changed.
MTV wasn't mtv anymore.... it got coded... Germans put VIVA... it was STUPID.... No 120minutes on mtv... girls who were grunge started dressing like bimbo sluts... everything changed...
Monopoly was dominant... new bands appeared with CRAP....
Everything is still sinking.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-26 18:02 [#01257253]
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i was just the right age i guess...im old see.
i wonder if something as big as that can happen again...or if another band like nirvana can emerge - not music wise, but more like alternative music become mainstream...perhaps idm could become mainstream :) i'd be fun too see afx start selling 10 million copies of albums.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-26 18:03 [#01257258]
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Get the Mad Season album "Above".
I missed out on them first time around - Layne "Alice in Chains" Staley on vocals - Pearl Jam guitarist and Screeming Trees rhythm section.
"River of Deceit" is my favorite song right now!
Grunge is one of those scenes that everyone still loves - If there were a few decent grunge bands around now, with REAL lead singers with interesting lives and backgrounds, not just some bloke with long hair, then I think it'd be every bit as popular as it was in the 90's..
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-06-26 18:08 [#01257265]
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I had a nirvana hoodie.
Wow, how cool am i.
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3052
on 2004-06-26 18:08 [#01257266]
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There is one slight problem... People here sem to believe in uniform. I could not understand it for a LONG LONG time. It happens that people who are listening to (just to use an extreme example) Marylin Manson (lets say) are really as dumb as lyrics are preaching..... You can RARELY find a good/educated person who likes good old fashioned grunge. Something MUST be wrong with them.... "Shabanism" (sorry there is no word in English for that !!!!) is for the middle class, and middle class is most dominant ....
There won't be any great bands Like Nirvana... Old bands got old. People mellowed down... Metallica cut their hair... It is all about money....
West is still 5 years late for Europe....
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-26 18:09 [#01257268]
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i wonder what it would be like if nirvana were still around...i bet electronic music wouldn't be as popular as it is nowdays.
im going to check that album...thanks!
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3052
on 2004-06-26 18:10 [#01257271]
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"i'd be fun too see afx start selling 10 million copies of albums. "
Yeah that is why I loved come to daddy so much... The whole album was just out of this world.... That is why I hated druqks so much.... I was expecting a come to daddy equivalent.
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3052
on 2004-06-26 18:11 [#01257274]
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I was thinking few days ago what it would be like if singer didn't shoot himself.... Someone would probably shoot him instead. Mafia holds the strings here.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-26 18:12 [#01257278]
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If Nirvana was still around Kurt would be doing electronic music!
He was well into new wave and drum machine stuff apparently - Heard him is one of his later interviews saying that he wanted to experiment with that stuff.
Do many of you know he produced a Melvins album before Nirvana was even known about - So he wasn't a stranger behind a mixing desk.
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3052
on 2004-06-26 18:15 [#01257280]
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No I never knew that. He was a singer with a guitar in my mind... But I would not be supriced if he appeared on a stage with a lapt-top... or have a new member of a band who is a techie...
I am just guessing... I never knew the guy :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-26 18:16 [#01257282]
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"If Nirvana was still around Kurt would be doing electronic music! "
can't imagine that at all!! :)
i knew they were big friends with melvins and he often played with them, but i had no idea about producing their album...i thought he wasn't too good at playing guitar...at least not until "nevermind"...
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3052
on 2004-06-26 18:22 [#01257286]
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I knew for Hole before Bleach (thanks to brother.... I wasn't even a freaking teenager then). I saw Hole live once... by accident (because I wanted to see other bands).... I never liked Hole..
heheh.... there was one girl who wrote "Hole" on here forehead. I was laughing to death...... Like there was really a hole in her mind.... Singer acted like a slut on a stage.... was probably drunk or something.... A very bad impression was left behind
BUT there was that girl with a hole on her head. It was RIGHT THERE. the mind of audience.... They don't care as long as sex is presented as an invention to them....a thing of freedom... like they need to be freed from some shit anyway....
Idiots.... Morons....
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big
from lsg on 2004-06-26 18:23 [#01257287]
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i hate
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-06-26 18:26 [#01257289]
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Haha, courtney shot that motherfucker anyway.
Hegemony happens. The most "interesting" elements of the "new thing" get bought up by major labels with hella money, diluted for the mainstream audience, and repackaged without any of the usually anti-corporate elements.
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3052
on 2004-06-26 18:27 [#01257292]
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In conclusion, I will never get rich by making music :)
Take care I must go.
Later!!!
I hope keys+ woks for you (tolstoyed)....
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-26 18:30 [#01257293]
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i don't think signing foe geffen changed their music...why not take the opportunity...it's easier to do what you like with more money, and it doesn't necessarily mean less artistic freedom...imo.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-26 18:31 [#01257295]
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yeah, i'll try that thing you linked to...but i'll do it tomorrow...kinda tired right now :) thanks!
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3052
on 2004-06-26 18:58 [#01257306]
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ME? More money?
I am still pulling things out of a 300Mhz PC....
Freedom? That does not comply.... Freedom means bum here. Good life means a robot.
"Haha, courtney shot that motherfucker anyway." Hahahaha yeah what if I come overthere to shoot YOU so next generation of invalids can laugh at someone's death.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-06-26 19:00 [#01257307]
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kurt cobain helped produce some songs on the melvins album Houdini. he played guest guitar on one song.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-26 19:21 [#01257316]
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I think after Im Utero, Kurt would have walked away from Nirvana and faded into obscurity a bit - Then he'd have gone off and pursued his New Wave thing.
I think he'd be making crazy drum machine/noise music by now - I really can see that.
A lot of his fellow Sub Pop'ers went down that road after '94.
Any Scratch Acid fans here? One of KC's favorite bands.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-26 20:09 [#01257347]
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he wanted to go further into the acoustic music he was making at that time, apparently.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-06-26 20:14 [#01257351]
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yeah, kurt cobain preferred recording banging on a table rather than use a drum machine for his demos (when real drums were unavailable), so i doubt he'd be interested in exclusively electronic music.
i have loved scratch acid for years - one of the most under-appreciated punk bands ever. they were excellent.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-06-26 20:18 [#01257358]
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I can't really say I'm big fan of grunge, it's too... well, grungy and dirty. I like ordered, clean guitar music, a la Television, the Go Betweens and the Soft Boys. But heavier groups did mean a lot to me back in the day, I have really fond memories of all those popular grunge bands... Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, the whole deal.
OUTshined, OUTshined, OUTshined!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-06-27 00:08 [#01257466]
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its the music of my home town!
i guess i kinda like it.
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nacmat
on 2004-06-27 01:36 [#01257486]
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I also love the 90s they were also good days of my life
not the best though
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-27 04:33 [#01257616]
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i read an interview shortly before he died where he was saying the creative chemistry of nirvana probably wouldn't last another album.
he didn't mention acoustic stuff, or drum machine stuff, but he was talking about some kind of jazz project.
i just don't think he was strong enough though. he'd been in quite a mess for a long time, and would have really had to sort himself out before he could have done anything constructive with his life.
some people get themselves together when they hit rock bottom. others give up. i really don't think cobain was the latter.
as for the band's popularity.. i don't think it could have lasted another ten years at the level it was; whether they'd all been positive, stable individuals or not. too much politics, too many drugs.
pity.
i never really liked many of the other "grunge" bands though. seemed to me to be a case of other labels rushing in & signing up nirvana's friends and associates in order to cash in on the 'scene'.. a lot of those other bands that followed in nirvana's wake just weren't very good.
a bit like that awful 'brit pop' explosion here in the uk in the mid nineties. i few of the bands that were included under that meaningless umbrella remained fiercely independant, changed with time & are still going now. but how many others sank without trace. music tv seemed to be full of them every week - i can't even remember their names now.
they all had the same haircut though.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-06-27 04:51 [#01257630]
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i don't love anything anymorre.
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nacmat
on 2004-06-27 04:52 [#01257631]
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too young to stop loving
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