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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-06-22 06:15 [#01250857]
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"Whenever I give myself a workover, I use the Magic Bondage to blindfold myself and bind my own hands," Shukan Jitsuwa quotes a 36-year-old housewife's post on an ms website as saying. "I've never taken part in S&M, but when I'm tied up and being violated by the adult toy, the thrill becomes twice as intense."
japan = modern!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-22 06:15 [#01250858]
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DEFINATELY!!!
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-06-22 06:18 [#01250859]
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Everyone watch Bizita Q by Takashi Miike.
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3052
on 2004-06-22 06:20 [#01250861]
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There is something about japan I dislike.... It is the commercialized mellowness. It reminds me of mentally undeveloped morons. Whole civilization seems to me as a gramatial error or Engrish. I mean, selling panties? Only asians can think of something so stupid and erroneous. I don't think I would be capable of living there. It is voices people make in a crowd that sickens me... I cannot stand it here either! I usually have a set of ear-plugs in my pocket. English speaking crowds annoy me. It sounds like a bunch of geese speaking from their throats. When I get surrounded by asians talking fast at high pitch tones, never stopping to breathe air I get nervous and feel like yelling "SHUT THE FUCKING HELL UP". I hope nobody gets offended, but I am just expressing my deepest feelings.
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3052
on 2004-06-22 06:22 [#01250865]
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Anime annoys me too. They all look like replicated characters. Everything is like a tamagotchi.
I hate fake and plastic smiles..... Just like the one on my avatar.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-06-22 06:40 [#01250895]
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A friend of mine, when his girlfriend was in bed asleep, he would put a pair of her panties on his head (ideally if they were smudged) and would proceed to knock one out. To my knowledge there is no Japanese in his family lineage.
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3052
on 2004-06-22 06:41 [#01250898]
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Then, what is up with people being so mechanical-like over-there ? I understand hard work, but to have a system riding you from a childhood really is a tyranny. It is true.. when you are constantly applying a pressure to a thing, the thing breaks.... Americans are also putting their fingers in everything and it ain't clean buisiness. I did get the info from few Japanese people that even though their tech. standards are high, there are only a few people who aren't the end users of moron-proof technology. People just don't care about knowing how to use computers.... many are computer illiterate, although they do have an access to computers....if not better than the garbage that is on my desk.
Revolution? It does not stand a chance amoung the idiotic pikachus and americans.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-22 06:43 [#01250901]
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"[...] but to have a system riding you from a childhood really is a tyranny."
hmm.. you just called "society" a tyranny.
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3052
on 2004-06-22 06:54 [#01250910]
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Tyrannic system embeded within the society that tells you who you are and who you will be, amoung the millions of people that look exactly like you. System that is not offering a freedom for self-exploration. System that functions... system that treats people like heard.... system that must have a negative feedback. Panties and writing things in blood are a start.
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uzim
on 2004-06-22 06:55 [#01250912]
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scheme88 > funny plush in your avatar...! =)
"Everyone watch Bizita Q by Takashi Miike."
> if i remember, someone i know watched this (but he thought it was crappy)... crazy gratuitous sex & violence?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-22 06:59 [#01250917]
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a system that tells you who you are and who you will be = society.
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3052
on 2004-06-22 06:59 [#01250918]
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Anyway, I will shut up now since it is how far my grasp about Japan goes..... It is too far to be bothered with it.
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-06-22 06:59 [#01250919]
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not gratuitous...more like social commentary...
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-22 07:04 [#01250923]
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The 40-year-old male teacher handed the boy a box-cutter and paper and told him to write an apology in blood.
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The incident comes on the heels of an attack in which an 11-year-old girl killed a classmate by slashing her throat with a box cutter, also in southern Japan.
box cutter fetish?
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3052
on 2004-06-22 07:04 [#01250925]
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a system that tells you who you are and who you will be = society.
No.. Not always. I am talking about function of society. For example word "typing" does not equal "hand". If individual has a freedom to say no to society's norms it doesnt mean that he/she has a freedom to escape the function of society.... It is like trying to escape the law on gravity wile on Earth. But yeah, one can stand up for her/himself. Unfourtenately such things are covered up with a speed of light with things such as pikachu. For example, I might say Bush is an ape, and soon enough, out of nowhere an ape will appear with a name Bonzi Buddy (or something alike), putting shit in people's eyes.... so next time you say Bush is an ape, people will think about bonzi buddy and laugh at you....
Anyway.... I don't want to get deeper into that shit... I said what I had to. It is your responsibility to understand it the way I intended it to be understood.
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3052
on 2004-06-22 07:05 [#01250927]
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OK I see errors that I made whilew typing.... I typed it very fast... I have a loads of things to do today. I must go.
Thanks for understanding.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-22 07:15 [#01250942]
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you can't say no to societys norms, 'cause there exists more than one society. by leaving one society, you join another. you can never step outside of society, and society is what tells you who you are.
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scheme88
from Tokyo (Japan) on 2004-06-22 08:12 [#01251009]
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it's a japanese stuffed toy HanPanda :)
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uzim
on 2004-06-22 08:15 [#01251016]
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^^
means "half-panda" or something like that in english, no?
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scheme88
from Tokyo (Japan) on 2004-06-22 08:19 [#01251018]
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"half-panda" that's right.^^
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-06-22 08:25 [#01251022]
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thoose pandas are awesome! You + your country is ACE! :)
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-06-22 08:28 [#01251023]
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do they sell any of these (I mean in toy-size)... or are there any other merchandise?
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-06-22 08:51 [#01251048]
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All this plastic cutesy is smothering me. So fucking hypocritical. Like repeating to yourself everything's fine when the world is about to end.
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uzim
on 2004-06-22 08:56 [#01251054]
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strange point of view.
would you prefer to see and hear nothing but sadness, darkness and mourning all day long? ' _ '
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scheme88
from Tokyo (Japan) on 2004-06-22 08:57 [#01251055]
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haha thanks.
maybe there are no other goods. btw, from what i have heard, an exhibit of the hanpanda will be held in london later on. haha
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-06-22 09:01 [#01251057]
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What I meant is that it is not genuine. It is fake. It is like drawing a smile with a marker on a frowned face.
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uzim
on 2004-06-22 09:50 [#01251088]
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maybe... depends on your point of view, i'm sure there are people who really feel happy-kawaii-colorful and all though. just not all the time.
you could also say Monoid is "fake". who knows.
it's kinda hard to differenciate what is "fake" and what is "genuine" - or if anything ever is totally genuine or fake.
(i'm probably not making much sense there but it's a bit unclear from the beginning...)
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uzim
on 2004-06-22 09:53 [#01251089]
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now it surely doesn't reflect real life, you're right
but things totally reflecting life are rather... boring, don't you think... if not sad...
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uzim
on 2004-06-22 09:55 [#01251090]
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(nevermind post #01251088)
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-06-22 10:13 [#01251103]
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Maybe I was a bit overreacting. I didn't say I don't like funny things but all this overexposure of this kawai-cuteness is a pretty oppressive sign of modern globalisation. There are many such signs but this fad has gone a bit too far... I just can't escape it. It is everywhere. It is like the multinational corporations step on you with a gigantic robot foot that has a smiley drawn under it. You missed my point: I'm not pro-depression/anti-happiness. I like being happy. I just don't like being maimed like that. I don't have much against people that are overly infatuated with the japanese culture and all that. But I just get pissed when the see no fault in the japanese. When they say how great it is there. It is not great there. People there are fucked over and over again by their parents their teachers and their bosses. Bullying there has one of the highest rates in the world. People choose to ignore all that and focus on the cuteness. Escapism takes you away from your problems but it diverts you from themas well. I'm afraid that in that way you just don't see the situation as it is. I'm also afraid that there is nothing we can do about it. We are too deep in it. Even music is diverting us. It is a pacifier. We are doomed. Anyway like I said before the whole issue is aesthetical. I've just been too exposed to kawai.
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3052
on 2004-06-22 10:30 [#01251111]
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"society is what tells you who you are. "
BULLSHIT! No wonder why so many people had false assumptions about me earlier on this board.... heh... I am an evil slav who wants to conquer the world, make everyone a communist and make philosophers kings while sitting on a top of a crap hill....
If society was telling me who I am, I would be on a street begging for either a shelter or food. Mercy of mob is rootless. So far I was a stalker, a murderer, suffering from bipolar depression, and all kinds of things polititians needed....Once you agree with the mob, you are done forever!
"society is what tells you who you are" is the most nazistic thing I read on this board. There are people who need to be told who they are....unfourtenately... I am not one of them.
Remember, society voted for Bush too.
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3052
on 2004-06-22 10:33 [#01251116]
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But yes, I cannot escape the society while I do not have to be a part of it. I can simply mind my own business, have no friends (who can do nothing but direct me in a wrong way) just like now.... It is hard, but would I be a slave to someone who would put me to live on a street tomorrow?
I don't have much of a choice.
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uzim
on 2004-06-22 13:15 [#01251329]
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Doomed Puppy > oh yes, i see the point now... i agree with you.
it remembers me of this animation that was posted a while ago on the board (although it (the animation) is exagerating, of course).
i'm studying japanese in university, and of course there are always "otakus" in the class who just dream about living in japan and idealize it, some would do anything to go to japan... i know someone who went there, tried to get some work and all, was hosted by families he knew there etc, but life is so expensive in japan at the end he was like a hobo, sleeping on the banks outside and all. he still idealizes it and wants to go back there again though.
i guess it makes people feel better, to believe that there would be a truly wonderful place in the world...
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-06-22 14:11 [#01251426]
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it seems kind of pathetic that you've actually started multiple topics on your fascination/hatred of japan. are you actually a closet anime fan or something?
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-06-22 14:23 [#01251451]
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haha, thoose words are true.
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sneakattack
on 2004-06-22 14:29 [#01251461]
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I watched and enjoyed some anime when I was really little, but do not like it now. I passed through a phase years ago when I was fascinated with parts of japanese culture, learned a little of the script, etc. For those two reasons I on occasionally turn my attention to it. I post topic which I find amusing, but are usually disparaging, because the japan fetish taking over pockets of the world seems often negligent of realism (also, like most people, I am bothered by hype). blargh I just woke up.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-22 14:30 [#01251464]
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go to bed
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-06-22 14:33 [#01251468]
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You opened one big can of (admitedly very cute anime style) worms.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-06-22 14:35 [#01251472]
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happy 10 000 posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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sneakattack
on 2004-06-22 14:36 [#01251474]
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hi
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-06-22 14:36 [#01251475]
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-06-22 14:36 [#01251478]
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well, i'm all for sweeping generalizations of entire countries i've never actually been to... oh wait, no i'm not.
i can sort of see your frustration with some peoples lack of "understanding" of japanese culture and their thrusting it into some kind of idealized spotlight, but really, who gives a shit?
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-22 14:38 [#01251483]
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hehe you're right, i didnt even notice
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-06-22 14:39 [#01251486]
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People who get fucked of by peadophilia being sold as cutsey, probably.
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sneakattack
on 2004-06-22 14:41 [#01251496]
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The two articles posted articles are worthy of attention by most standards here, which is why the thread was started (not some ridiculous intention to inculcate). I found them both on the same site (bored, went to jwz.livejournal.com), near eachother (I was not amassing articles for some great bash of gayness).
Where was my generalization? The statement of reaction to pressure is a fact. The statement that japan is deranged by most standards is a fact.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-06-22 14:47 [#01251521]
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I think this messageboard has got one of the biggest fascinations for Japan I've ever seen on a messageboard (that isn't really related to Japan or Japanese culture).
I'm not really complaining (I find the stuff people post here interesting)... And I can't even fight my fetish anymore.
But I also know that if I ever go to Japan I'll have to work hard and really fight (like uzim said his friend had to do).
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-22 14:49 [#01251526]
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are you gonna fight random people in japan?
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-06-22 14:49 [#01251527]
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the generalizations were in the thread, not neccessarily in your post. i had read that article and it seemed pretty fucked up, and doesn't really surprise me at all, because, frankly, japan is pretty fucked up. but so is every other country on earth.
and yeah, this messageboard is part of the growing japan fetish i'm seeing in alot of places. its just another country, with its good and bad points.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-22 14:54 [#01251536]
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today on xltronic, two grown men waste their time debating on a virtual meetingplace for people with japan-fetishes.
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sneakattack
on 2004-06-22 14:55 [#01251538]
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while a boy ruins his chance at a future
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