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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-06-17 17:26 [#01245189]
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Lots of Metalheads are into breakcore. My theory is that these metalheads are into grindcore metal with its trademark uzi-style "blastbeat", and thus the crossover is completed.
Poop on my theory please.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-17 17:29 [#01245197]
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i wish i knew what you're saying...
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-06-17 17:30 [#01245198]
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i not only agree, i think there will be a further blurring of metal and breakcore styles in the future. it seems like a perfectly natural evolution to me.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-06-17 17:32 [#01245206]
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probably a lot of metalheads are into dillinger escape plan and therefore got interested in aphex twin with their cover of come to daddy. vsnares has sort of a post-metal swagger to his style and artwork. not to mention the obvious similarities between the intensity of aggressive electronic music and death metal/grindcore genres.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-06-17 19:13 [#01245309]
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Cannibal Corpse is an example of grindcore music.
Here's a direct link to some mp3s by them: Pounded Into Dust I Will Kill You Devoured Staring Through The Eyes Of The Dead(Live)
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-06-17 19:14 [#01245310]
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I remember hearing some tracks by snares that were very grindcore influenced. So it was that train of thought that prompted me to discuss it here.
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dequalsrxt
from Los Angeles (United States) on 2004-06-17 19:16 [#01245311]
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and is it my imagination or does it seem like the vsnares guy has blood or weird markings on his head in some of the live photos? very ozzy osbourne/alice cooper/etc
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-06-17 19:17 [#01245313]
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personally i don't see it. at least not right now. maybe a whiles from now, but who's to say these genres will still be present. i have a good deal of friends into all sorts of metal and i used to go to shows myself. merzbow released a cd on relapse and that didn't bring much into either scene.
i'd stick with nine inch nails and radiohead as the main crossover bands. the indie/electronic crossover is growing though.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-06-17 19:20 [#01245316]
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In this pic he is either wearing a headband with a logo or some sort of sticker on the ole' forehead there.
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dequalsrxt
from Los Angeles (United States) on 2004-06-17 19:20 [#01245317]
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for a little while there, in the early nineties, i thought it was gonna be skinny puppy
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-06-17 19:20 [#01245319]
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i've heard cannibal corpse before, but i can't say i'm a fan. i like certain death and grind bands, but mostly i don't like them. my above post was pure speculation and theory.
i do know what grindcore is. i like brutal truth, 324, hellchild, multiplex, force, swarrrm, etc.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-06-17 19:22 [#01245321]
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I'm not a metal or grindcore fan at all, far from it. Perhaps I gave that impression unintentionally.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-06-17 19:23 [#01245322]
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I am aware of the genre, and had a brief fascination with it for about 2 days when my friend Danny and I downloaded a bunch of grindcore tunes just out of pure sociological fascination and morbid curiosity.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-06-17 19:23 [#01245323]
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skinny puppy was still more of an industrial band dabbling in metal on the process. i wouldn't call them crossover, especially when compared to nin or kmfdm, who i think have a lot more to do with electronica/metal crossover.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-06-17 19:26 [#01245324]
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oh, i see. i thought you were trying to turn me on to it :)
when i was a lot younger i thought all metal was dumb, then i realized that it's the same as all other music - most of any genre is dumb and/or imitators and that's the stuff you shouldn't bother with. but if you can find the better bands you can learn what it's all about and you can make more educated selections.
and none of what i just said has anything to do with literal "intelligence" - i was speaking casually.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-06-17 19:33 [#01245329]
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with vsnares - he seems like the electronica equivalent of "extreme metal" (or whatever you'd like to call it) to me. very intense, scary music - very confrontational. the stuff on doll and find candace especially. not to mention the artwork - when contextualized as "vsnares art", trevor brown's stuff is even more visceral and dark.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-06-17 20:16 [#01245348]
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I just sense it in his style. I can feel an influence there when I listen to snares.
I'm not even a snares fan anyway, It was just a thought.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-06-18 02:57 [#01245545]
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Your theory is alright with me!
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diablo
on 2004-06-18 04:36 [#01245587]
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The term "breakcore" is stupid because:
a) hardcore is based on breakbeats anyway b) it is stupid
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manifestevil
from Australia on 2004-06-19 04:44 [#01247027]
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tniht i'm playin a party doin beats on a drum machine with a friend who'll be playin metal riffs and singing death metal......
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-06-19 08:00 [#01247107]
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that sounds cool... try and record it so we can hear it please :)
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