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what do you have to say to this VP Cheney? |
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this is prolly what he has to say about it: Vice President Dick Cheney, in a speech Monday in Florida, raised eyebrows by reasserting claims that Saddam "had long-established ties with al Qaeda." |
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exactly. and then 2 days later, the commision says no, there wasnt. so I want to know what his response to this is NOW. |
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i'm sure he'll stand by his guns... and piles of money. |
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he'll probably say "yes there is" and then the commision will say "no theres not" and he'll say "yes there is" and then the commision will say "no theres not" and he'll say "yes there is" and then the commision will say "no theres not" and he'll say "yes there is" and then the commision will say "no theres not" and he'll say "yes there is" and then the commision will say "no theres not" and he'll say "yes there is" and then the commision will say "no theres not" and he'll say "yes there is" and then the commision will say "no theres not" and he'll say "yes there is" and then the commision will say "no theres not" and he'll say "yes there is" and then the commision will say "no theres not" and he'll say "yes there is" and then the commision will say "no theres not" and he'll say "yes there is" and then the commision will say "no theres not" and he'll say... |
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since the admin never clarifies (at least to my knowledge they haven't) what a "link" means in this case, it could really be anything. i mean, if a guy from one of saddam's bodyguard's neighborhoods knew someone who attended a training camp for a week back in 1998, then, technically there's a link. i mean, who knows. |
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"had long-established ties with al Qaeda" what about that direct quote? |
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i'm not even clear on what "al qaeda" is... people tend to say that all kinds of organizations are al qaeda... i mean, if a terrorist group shares some of bin laden's ideals, does that make that group al qaeda?.. what if a group recieved a little bit of money for one project from a group that was lightly connected to al qaeda.. does that make them al qaeda too? it's all a bunch of rhetoric and semantics... |
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Al Qaeda means The Base. It is basically a dispersed organisation of terrorist groups and cells where bin Ladan bank rolls and offers training for activities he thinks will benefit islamics in general. It's sort of like Gescom. |
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yeah, but how much leadership do you think bin laden is actually able to provide right now? I'd say, if he is still alive, he's probably spending most of his time hiding. so, basically lots of different groups sent people to these fairly advanced training camps in afghanistan, where they learned all kinds of things. those camps were funded largely by osama and his close associates. that went on for a decade or more, training thousands. all of those people who got varying degrees of training from al qaeda funded camps went back to their own small little groups and tried to spread what the knew.. so part my confusion is that, do all of those little groups get called al qaeda too? or do they have to directly recieve money from bin laden?.. i mean, i guess it's not really important what you call them... but, i think it definately makes a difference when someone like cheney says there is an "iraqi link to al qaeda"... makes me wonder; how many times removed was that suposed link? i suppose i'm just rambling. |
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It's common sense and stands to reason that there would be connections between Saddam Hussain's regime and al Queda. It could be that a link could not be made public due to other implications (eg. lets just say Libya, for example, were involved in the chain...with them now being a "friend" of the US it would destabilise their cooperation). The simple fact is that not all information can be placed into the public domain. As for the small terrorist groups, yes they would be considered part of the al qaeda network. |
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It's common sense and stands to reason that there would be connections between Saddam Hussain's regime and al Queda. i take it you're referring to connections that are tenuous at best, not what cheney thinks exists. |
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All them ay-rabs is in cahoots. |
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I think they work together with the Chinarese.. |
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Who is your avatar? |
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Kim Deal, non-Chinarese. |
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She has long-established ties with Chinar. |
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FUCK! |
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"There was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida," Bush insisted following a meeting with his Cabinet at the White House. oh. ok! ... |
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well, of all people HE should know. |
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"of course there was a relationship between iraq and al qaeda!.. for christ's sake who do you think set up the meetings....... oh wait.. FUCK!" -gwb |
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bush and cheney are liars throughout our presence in irag they have maintained that there is a long history of cooperation between al qaeda and the iraqi government. this is not true, and they know it. they've asserted this claim in order to win our confidence and support for a war in which hundreds of innocent lives have been lost on both sides. they've fattened their pockets. and if they come out and say, "well, what we REALLY meant was that there was kind of a link, it wasn't a direct link, just a vague link..." etc. we need to expose them for the liars, murderers and thieves that they are. would anyone still like to defend them at this point? |
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did i actually just type "irag"? it's cause i'm on the rag. i'm ragging. |
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I'm loving David Crosseseses new liveshow.. "We're going to the moon.. we're going to the MOOON... {..} we have to go to the moon, we have to sink all the rest of our money into the moon.. first of all, I didn't know there was oil up there, apparently there is.." |
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