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Look, there are just 2 logical constants in reality, the beginning and the END (DEATH). Everything in between doesnt reall matter.....because else is shaped from our experience in how we perceived our realilty, and therefore NOT REAL. Here is a test, think of a random word, and repeat it severall times, it loses it meaning and starts sounding rediciouls. |
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hooray for existentialism! |
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fucking hell, have a wank or something would you |
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If you pause after saying the word and briefly "re-picture" it in your mind, it keeps its meaning. It only loses it and sounds silly if you go through the motions of making your voice box replicate the sounds of the word, without actually thinking about it. |
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mmyes but one can also argue that because birth and death (or DEATH, as you like to call it, for some reason) are constant, they are incredibly uninteresting, and the complete fantasy that fits between those two is actually a lot more engaging and thus does matter. |
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gosh I'm such an interesting person. |
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No it does not because you KNOW you are going to die. And this is the burden you have to carry as HUMAN. YOUR Conscious, and your sublime role in this tragedy.... |
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so fucking what? I'm going to die - yes. so why should that worry me or stop me? if I was immortal, would everything suddenly have a Meaning? meaning only exists in your own head anyway, you create it yourself. |
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I thought about this some more on my last cough syrup thread, which was a delightful and sensual expierence.. |
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the constants are given. they are inevitable and quite uninteresting. |
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As your cough syrup trips are merely "filler" between life and death, do they, and anything revealed to you during them, matter? |
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more importantly, if you really believe what you are saying, why aren't you dead? |
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i cant kill my self that would be against the rules of the game, and would bring the time space continuum in great DANGER, yo ! |
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oh dear..! |
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Assuming Life and Death are the ONLY 2 real constant in reality, a suicide would render these 2 constants USELESS, and because GOD, or IGNU, like i like to call him, didnt create life and DEATH without a purpose, because we are part of a bigger plan..... |
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but God doesn't exist. |
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proof it |
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seeing as you like logic so much, it would be a lot more logical for you to prove to me why God does exist, not the other way round. |
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im dying... |
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LUCKY YOU - suddenly your life got MEANING! |
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yes. im all excited! |
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i think you forgot a third logical constant. problem is, i havent figured out the concept yet, but it is something in the vain of causality, progression or evolution. think about it; during a lifetime man achieves certain things which extend his own life. things which are based on things achieved by men before him, which in turn are achieved by men before them and so forth. since the beginning of time humanity has achieved a lot of things. some good, some bad. the results can undeniably be seen around you. a couple of hundred years ago a certain guy named mozart created a couple of tunes, for instance, which till this day still influence a lot of people. same holds for shakespeare, einstein, etc. you name it. probably even your grandmother. the point is: everything inbetween does matter. if it's not on a personal scale, it's on a the bigger scale. in that case humanity can be seen to benefit of your inbetween; your achievements. so there: throw your nihilistic attitude in a tree and use others' achievements to your benefit and let others benefit of yours. |
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holy shit, you're right. I read all of your posts over and over, and its true, they are rediciouls!!!! |
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that's too abstract for me. I do things in my life because either I really want to or it's just less of a hassle if I do them. not because I want to work for "humanity's achievements" or with the idea that maybe someone after me will be inspired - that means very little to me. |
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we'rre going to die? i hope not. |
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And for this I thank God; for all have doubts; many deny; but doubts or denials, few along with them, have intuitions. Doubts of all things earthly, and intuitions of some things heavenly; this combination makes neither believer nor infidel, but makes a man who regards them both with equal eye. |
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that "humanity's achievements" bit was more intented in the context of "if you cant find anything in it for yourself, do it for someone else". @zeus: thanks for the sarcasm :P |
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Non dxm thread: +5 points |
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'beginnings' and 'endings' are psychological contraints human's have invented to be able to comprehend the slice of 'consciousness' at hand. what exactly is it that comes to an end? life? life is just a special case scenario of a complex arrangement of physical properties. the arrangement changes, but not the existence of the things that make it up. there are no beginnings or endings, just a dynamic, constantly changing system of 'things'. that's one theory, at least. |
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