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offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-03 10:53 [#01221131]
Points: 5739 Status: Regular



hi y'all
having a wicked problem that needs to be nipped in the bud
asap... i keep getting these errors where my computer just
switches itself off after quickly showing something that
resembles the blue screen of death... it takes about 20
minutes for me to be able to boot my computer up again, when
i do it says "windows has recovered from a serious error"
when i look at the details it says "minidump" error. i read
into this a little bit on various sites, but it doesnt
explain too much in the way of combating this... it does
however say that its a cooling issue, or dust in the
tower... and i did notice upon booting up again that my hd
was at 50 degrees which is very high... i have the tower now
with one of the panels from the side removed... i figured it
would keep it cooler... is this a no-no?

also yeah, a lot of dust, but im too scared to touch
anything... any advice???


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-03 10:54 [#01221132]
Points: 5739 Status: Regular



ps i do need to excersize EXTREME caution as i have to play
live at uni for assessment about 3 times in the next 3
days... plus all my work is on here...


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-06-03 10:56 [#01221135]
Points: 7021 Status: Addict



when i had this i was told to look for virus called worm...
something.
i installed free warmblaster ( as i remember the name ) from
Symantec web site, and after short scanning problem was
solved.
dunno, maybe thats the thing ?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-06-03 10:57 [#01221138]
Points: 17620 Status: Lurker



use a vacuum cleaner to clean the dust out.

there are a lot of things you can do to help keep your
machine cool. arange the wires better, arrange components
and cards for better airflow, add fans, etc..

leaving the side panel shouldn't hurt it at all, unless your
cat goes in there and chews cables.


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-03 10:57 [#01221139]
Points: 5739 Status: Regular | Followup to hyakusen: #01221135



you could be right, my first suspicion was a virus... ill do
all the updating and checking now, thanks for popping that
idea back in my head :)


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-06-03 10:58 [#01221141]
Points: 17620 Status: Lurker



and, yeah, could be a virus too...

do you run any antivirus and/or spyware removal programs?


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-03 10:59 [#01221145]
Points: 5739 Status: Regular | Followup to epohs: #01221138



cheers, i had my computer custom built for me and it has a
couple of heat sinks etc etc, and this is the first time in
18 months that the temperature has exceeded 40... ill ask
again if they can look at the arrangement of wires etc...
but im not game to touch anythign


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-03 11:00 [#01221146]
Points: 5739 Status: Regular | Followup to epohs: #01221141



im just doing a norton scan now.. updating adaware at the
mo...


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-06-03 11:02 [#01221148]
Points: 7021 Status: Addict



yeah
i dont think that dust can cause problems like you
hacve...but you never know



 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-06-03 11:04 [#01221151]
Points: 16065 Status: Regular



0. back up your important stuff
1. scan for viruses or spyware
2. go to step 3
3. check heat flow in computer
4. i dont konnw
hafdaxmz


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-06-03 11:04 [#01221152]
Points: 16065 Status: Regular | Followup to hyakusen: #01221148



well it can, my computer was full of dust & had no
ventilation, and according to some cupkmputer guy it caused
my HD to melt down


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-06-03 11:12 [#01221163]
Points: 17620 Status: Lurker



"...and i did notice upon booting up again that my hd
was at 50 degrees...
"

that is what makes me think it's a heat/ventolation issue.
there may also be a virus, or multiple virii involved, but
the temperature of the harddrives is a little high
regardless, and i doubt a virus is responsible for that.


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-03 11:12 [#01221164]
Points: 5739 Status: Regular



oh something i should mention too... this error didnt start
happening til a couple of days ago, which was 4 days after i
had one of my ram thingys replaced coz one died... maybe the
computer guy messed something around


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-06-03 11:14 [#01221167]
Points: 17620 Status: Lurker | Followup to teapot: #01221164



actually when i started reading your description the first
thing i thought of was bad ram. i know you don't want to
mess with anything, but if you do happen to change your
mind, i'd remove the new ram chip and see if that fixes it.


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-03 11:14 [#01221168]
Points: 5739 Status: Regular | Followup to epohs: #01221163



yeah... just looking inside my tower tho, all the fans are
going... how do heat sinks work? i know i have a couple of
them in here, but they are hidden around the back


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-03 11:15 [#01221169]
Points: 5739 Status: Regular | Followup to epohs: #01221167



i just went from 2 x 256 to 1 x 512... so i have just the 1
ram chip right now, does it sound like i've been given a bit
of a dodgy one?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-06-03 11:16 [#01221170]
Points: 17620 Status: Lurker | Followup to teapot: #01221168



heatsinks just spread the heat away from whatever they're
touching... usually chip.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-06-03 11:18 [#01221173]
Points: 17620 Status: Lurker | Followup to teapot: #01221169



it's possible, and it could cause the spontaneous shutdowns.
but, so could a dieing powersupply... and tons of other
things maybe.

if i were you i'd just leave the side panel off, scan for
virii and spyware, and see if it becomes more stable. but,
since you have an upcoming gig and it'd suck if your machine
died in the middle of that, you should probably call your
tech buddys and explain the problems.


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-03 11:21 [#01221181]
Points: 5739 Status: Regular | Followup to epohs: #01221173



ok, i'll be looking into all of that, thanks for your help,
i really appreciate it :)


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-06-03 11:23 [#01221188]
Points: 17620 Status: Lurker



no problem m8!


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-06-03 16:59 [#01221600]
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I would say RAM too. Possibly just a case of a poorly
seated chip rather than a faulty chip. I would say remove
the RAM module check all the contacts are clean and just
reseat it making sure it is in the first slot on the board.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-06-03 17:00 [#01221603]
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As for the dust...clean it. Just buy yourself a can of
compressed air and use it to blow the dusk away (better than
brushing or using a vacuum)


 


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