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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-02 09:05 [#01219411]
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does anybody here use sibelius? is it possible to import a midi file into it and it will automatically score it? can i get a hold of a copy off anybody? i really need it for a university assignment...
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-02 09:06 [#01219413]
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You can do that in cubase. Open the midi > score editor.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-02 09:09 [#01219415]
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hmm dont have cubase either...
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2004-06-02 09:21 [#01219431]
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If it's possible in Cubase, then yes, it's possible in Sibelius. It's even possible in my good ol' Digital Orchestrator Plus.
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Bremzen
from utrecht (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-02 09:27 [#01219444]
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it's possible in both cubase and sibelius.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-06-02 09:57 [#01219488]
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Marlowe has used it. I've had a brief go, promised I'd come back to it to score "Vanilla Hub" for 3 violins, but I never did :)
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-06-02 10:01 [#01219490]
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It's possible in pretty much any half decent MIDI sequencer, so it should be possible in Sibelius or Finale as well.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-02 10:02 [#01219494]
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can anyone actually sort me out with a copy of sibelius however? i really want to avoid using the macs at uni...
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-06-02 12:16 [#01219717]
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Yes, I have Sibelius and it will create a score if you import a MIDI file - It will ask you a few brief questions, and then create it for you :)
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-02 12:21 [#01219725]
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cheers.. how is it with really wierd off time stuff tho? i presume it sorts out all the intricacies for you? theres just a whacked key mashing bit when the piece just dies at the end...
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-06-02 12:25 [#01219731]
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well you can easily remedy it - it depends on the quality of the MIDI used, or the software which created the MIDI -- sometimes when I make scores from Mario pieces, instead of showing "rall." when a piece slows down, you'll get a whole bunch of squashed-together tempoes :D But it's just text and you can delete them, and add the appropriate phrase in the stead :)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-06-02 12:27 [#01219740]
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yeah, I do all my 'classical' scores in sibelius... most def converts the midi to score.
if the parts arnt quantized... it will be a bitch... it will make the notes 64th notes, and 32nd notes etc.... the exact midi positions as if in a sequencer.
youll also need to put in your own dynamics/articulations if need be.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-02 12:29 [#01219746]
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cheers for the help, ill have to listen in my lectures from now on :)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-06-02 12:31 [#01219748]
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what class is it for? whats the project?
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-02 12:34 [#01219752]
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its core musicianship for my bachelor of music... i have to write a piece for my group to play live, and since they are all performers they insist that i give them sheet music... which is quite hard especially with the style of music i write... i was just having a hard time scoring it by hand...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-06-02 12:36 [#01219761]
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oh sweet, what kind of piece is it?
and yeah, I hate writting it by hand.
My life is so dependent on computers now, for better or for worse... :-\
where are you studying?
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-02 12:41 [#01219776]
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im doing a bachelor of music, specialising in composition... at the queensland university of technology... this piece im doing for this... well its a noise piece really... somewhere between fennesz' rivers of sand and something off draft730... if i HAD to describe it... the teachers love me, all the other students think im insane, its cool :)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-06-02 15:19 [#01219976]
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awesome.
I was doing a duel major in synthesis and composition, but I got tired of the academia of the composition major. BS papers and analysis... I took most of the composition classes (and learned alot, and really enjoyed them), but the analysis ones where just a pain.
And I also didnt want to do a fifth year.
cool the teachers like it!
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-06-02 15:24 [#01219978]
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I'm jealous of you people doing a music-related course. I would probablt have done something similar if it weren't for there being virtually no market for it in this area, so I chose something that offers me a better chance for a job.
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-06-02 15:28 [#01219981]
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Ever thought of moving elsewhere where the market is better?
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-06-02 15:30 [#01219986]
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no
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-06-02 15:32 [#01219989]
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it depends what you do... and what you are willing to do.
personally, I hope to make a living doing commercial production... music for commercials, sound design etc.
you can def find jobs (and they pay well) its just a matter of having a steady flow of work!
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-06-02 15:33 [#01219990]
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Maybe you should ;)
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-06-02 15:35 [#01219993]
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that's also a no
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-06-02 15:35 [#01219994]
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and for the record, no I dont think thats "selling out"
i would be fine with that, and i think it would be fun.
also Id get to work at home, so I could work on my own stuff more as well.
i def want to release my own music, but as I think everyone here can understand, theres not much money to be made in IDM etc... so I need some source of income, might as well put my skills to use.
I actually got a pretty sweet gig this summer... ;)
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-06-02 15:35 [#01219995]
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Your loss :P
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-06-02 15:41 [#01220002]
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Well, the part about courses like yours that I find very positive is that you are taught programs such as Max/MSP and Cubase and what not. It takes a LOT of effort to learn that shit on your own and I definately think that it makes it easier if someone teaches you it.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-06-02 15:44 [#01220006]
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oh hell yes.
I agree 100%
when I tried to learn csound, there was just somethings I needed for someone to clear up, to make me understand it better. I didnt progress with it, until I took a class
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-06-02 15:47 [#01220010]
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That's what I mean.
They either don't offer courses like that here (not even in non-scholar environments) or they would be MEGA expensive.
Woe.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-06-02 15:52 [#01220021]
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are you really in holland (so many people dont put thier real places... so just checking)
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-06-02 15:55 [#01220025]
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Yes, I am. Way down south :)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-06-02 15:56 [#01220029]
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ah.
I'm going to be in amsterdam for my 21st birthday. my roommate from college just moved back (hes dutch) and since im in italy with my parents, id like to spend it with a friend, and party :)
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-06-02 15:59 [#01220033]
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You'll like it if you're an open-minded person and avid weed smoker ;)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-06-02 16:01 [#01220034]
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yes and yes!
I was there before, in highschool... long story short, I wasnt doing *any* substances at the time, so I did not get to enjoy the culture....
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-06-02 16:16 [#01220054]
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Apart from that, by now you'll know that amsterdam is also a beautiful city to just visit, with its unique lay-out and architecture. Hope you'll have a good stay there!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-06-02 16:18 [#01220057]
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I did that part last time, now its my birthday, time to see the other side ;)
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-06-02 16:22 [#01220063]
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you bad BAD man!
Be sure to not get shit stuff at the shady coffeeshops then ;)
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-06-02 16:23 [#01220065]
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anyway I'm off to bed now
g'night y'all!!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-06-02 16:23 [#01220066]
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Im in good hands :)
good night!
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