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offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-05-27 01:51 [#01209772]
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I never thought I was very patriotic or anything, and have
always wanted to get out of Canada... but the funny thing
is, when I actually to get away from Canada and come to
Europe I realize just how much I love Canada... I don't
think I'll ever want to leave Canada... granted,
Newfoundland IS a piece of shit part of Canada, but there's
plenty of other places in Canada... so yeah, I'm pretty
attached I think...


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-27 01:53 [#01209778]
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Well.. I like norway.. I like living here, but I don't
always agree with what the government is doing (like sending
troops to aid the americans in iraq and wanting to privatize
everything...). I would openly criticise the way this
country is run on national televison, but I won't move away
for more than a year at a time...


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2004-05-27 01:58 [#01209786]
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|<----------->| much


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-05-27 02:01 [#01209791]
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By money:) a lot of money is needed to get out of here!


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-05-27 02:03 [#01209795]
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Not.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-05-27 02:03 [#01209797]
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that is: i hate this place and i want to leave.


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-27 02:05 [#01209801]
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so and so...


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-05-27 02:14 [#01209818]
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i still call australia home


 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 02:55 [#01209877]
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i'm attached to a lot of things about these fair isles, and
obviously fond of the city (Leeds) I grew up in... but I
don't particularly care about our nationality. we can be
part of an EU superstate for all I care (maintaining the
right to determine our own domestic politics of course).

nationalism/patriotism is the cause of far more strife in
the world than religion/ethnicity.

i think london's one of the most exciting cities in the
world, and I'm gonna be moving there in september. yippedy
yay!



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-05-27 03:00 [#01209878]
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i don't imagine myself ever leaving this place...it's just
too nice to live here :)


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2004-05-27 03:03 [#01209880]
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london here i come!


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2004-05-27 03:15 [#01209886]
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funkmaster is suffering from home-sickness :(

You're in the Netherlands right? if so that's not the
greatest place of europe, it sucks hardcore


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-05-27 03:31 [#01209920]
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IT'S NICE HERE!


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2004-05-27 03:34 [#01209923]
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that's because you've just arrived


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-05-27 03:34 [#01209924]
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compared to newfoundland everything is nice.
j/k, i bet i'd like it there.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 03:35 [#01209926]
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Vote BNP


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2004-05-27 04:11 [#01209955]
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I'm very attached to Antarctica, mainly because it doesn't
have many morons here, unlike every other country with
Caucasians forming the majority of the citizenry (illegal
immigrants not counting). I also like the fact that it is
white, the colour of purity and chasteness, which I like to
stain red with penguin blood during ancient antarctic
rituals to make sure that the sun rises in October. I also
like the fact that we Antarcticans are superior to every
other race that ever existed and that ever will exist. We
are practically perfect in every way.


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-05-27 06:16 [#01210099]
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Poppycock. Everyone knows Drexcyans are the master race.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-05-27 06:28 [#01210125]
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Not attached at all. I'd up and leave in a second.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-05-27 06:29 [#01210127]
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i don't know. therre arre things that i love about this
countrry and things i hate.


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2004-05-27 06:34 [#01210142]
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I like a lot of the people you find in the UK, but I'm not
patriotic, and I'm definetly not attached to the place.

I'd much rather be somewhere where people bother living, and
not just working and being pissed off all the time - Tokyo
would be heaven! One of my best friends is about to move
there.

I can't deal with the UK unless I'm smoking weed pretty much
constantly - Without weed I'd never bother leaving the house
- There's too many miserable fucked up people everywhere,
brings me down... No ambition, no direction, no lifestyle,
either you get pissed a lot or you watch a lot of TV.

With weed I become pretty oblivious to it and can actually
have quite a good laugh.

Great country to be a pot head - Couldn't deal with the
crazy US police.


 

offline uzim on 2004-05-27 06:43 [#01210162]
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i would be quite happy to live where i live (probably not
the best place in the world but it's nice enough), if it
wasn't for the government...


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-27 06:57 [#01210193]
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i was born in france and live in dublin so feel more
european than irish.... its pretty cheap to fly to anywhere
in europe from here and thats great cos there is such
diversity (but evergrowing homogeny too).....

... the craic in dublin is great but i can't stand ex-pat
irishness abroad. i'd avoid irsih pubs when travelling.



 

offline phiz from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 07:01 [#01210207]
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i fucked england off 4 years ago, bein a smoker and having
green fingers i was basically labelled a criminal just
because i like a toke. but holland is still pretty
conservative regarding laws. its becomming alot more
conservative too, trying to stop smoking and selling of
herbs, theyre allready trying hard to stop psychadelic sales
and other 'legal highs


 

offline 3051 from Vietnam on 2004-05-27 07:02 [#01210209]
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With shitty education I would not make for living in any
other country. That is one thing that connects me.... Then
ummm... lets see... People are pieces of shit, culture
below zero, daily back stabbing at work, canadian born
people think they are super humans, canadian women are
mainly whores.... But hey but we got forests!



 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-27 07:04 [#01210212]
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I'm proud to be a Canadian, I definitely have some national
pride in my blood, and I don't plan on ever living anywhere
else, at least not permanently. When Canada takes the World
Cup of Hockey, you can be damn sure I'll be pimpin' the
maple leaf.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-27 07:06 [#01210217]
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canadians are generally thought of as "intelligent
americans," much in the same way as there is dance music,
and Intelligent dance music...


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-27 07:07 [#01210218]
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Not terribly. I love the landscape/scenery, I think most of
our government are a bunch of pricks though.


 

offline 3051 from Vietnam on 2004-05-27 07:08 [#01210222]
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at least I can breathe unlike in some countries that don't
have democracy so people suffocate because they don't have a
right to vote because their lungs are used as voting boxes.

With good education I would not make for living in this
country... choice? Be a bum, study, move away and have a
normal life OR work, have a normal life and suffer after
age of 35


 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 07:11 [#01210228]
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I have high regards for canada. A successful and
multicultural social democracy with progressive policies in
many areas: drug policing, integrating paedophiles back into
the community, social security, etc. If only your bloated
cousin south of the border would take greater note.

Same goes for the nordic countries (esp. sweden) -
progressive taxation, excellent social security and care for
the disadvantaged (mentally ill etc.). Wonderful examples
for the rest of the world.


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-05-27 07:11 [#01210231]
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Patriotism, man. I hate it. It's a round world the last time
i looked.


 

offline 3051 from Vietnam on 2004-05-27 07:15 [#01210236]
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VLetr, yes but those multiply instead of being reduced. I
am not a nazi or anything, but I do agree with Nazis when
they say that healthy society is made up of healthy
people... There are certain ways to approach health... It
does not have to be a Nazi way.


 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 07:23 [#01210253]
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i hope you're ready for a roll-your-sleeves-up debate 3051,
cos i get pretty militant about this kind of shit... :)

are you saying that someone with schizophrenia should be
abandoned by society and left to live on the street? by
instigating a self-centred, thatcherite "survival of the
fittest" type social policy, we merely increase the overall
suffering of people in society, with a disproportionately
large payoff for those at the top of the heap.

and i don't think giving ill people a comfortable existence
makes them more likely to "multiply". by allowing them to
provide a better environment for their own children, we can
influence their development away from a similar fate.

poverty is the cause of most social problems.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-27 07:25 [#01210255]
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hmm.. imagine if sick people just multiplied by themselves
if we kept feeding them... non-sexual reproduction.. kind of
like "gremlins"

haha!


 

offline 3051 from Vietnam on 2004-05-27 07:29 [#01210261]
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someone with schizophrenia should be cured not tortured with
expensive medicine that does not do anything but slightly
changes the mood and state of mind (same with other
medicine... good example are my parents who had to order
pharmacuticals from Germany... Unfourtenately they were not
able to do so, so they switched to natural medicine. It
helped them better then pills they are paying every month
and that cost a fortune. Therefore medicine is used as a
way to make money, not to help people).

If you don't stop a pedophile from abusing children, such
abuse MUST happen again. Sorry, but I am a person who would
kill someone if I knew that my child was abused.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-27 07:32 [#01210271]
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have YOU got a cure for schizophrenia? don't you think they
would cure it if they could?


 

offline 3051 from Vietnam on 2004-05-27 07:33 [#01210273]
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I can't just plug my ears say how everything is nice seeing
a murderer called social democracy grow and expand each
day...


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-27 07:33 [#01210276]
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"a murderer called social deomcracy"

???


 

offline 3051 from Vietnam on 2004-05-27 07:34 [#01210278]
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have YOU got a cure for schizophrenia?

No but I have a cure for a high cholesterol and perhaps for
prostate, and it is NOT medicine you can buy in a drug
store.


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2004-05-27 07:36 [#01210281]
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I think paedophilia needs to be seen as an illness, so
people feel they can get it treated, rather than getting
pushed underground.

Agree with the pharmacuticals thing - The doctors put me on
steroids and, basically, speed, to sort my asthma out - For
years...

Needless to say, it got worse, and I become less & less
healthy - Eventually I stumbled across a simple breathing
exercise and managed to cure myself pretty much completely
in about 2 months.

Around the same time they'd tried to put me on citalopram
and valium for anxiety - Never took it, the anxiety just
went as soon as my breathing was sorted...

Do I have any faith in the health service? No.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-05-27 07:38 [#01210284]
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not very fond of the current administration, but i love the
wide array of climates and terrains in the us. and, most of
the people i know and like are here.


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2004-05-27 07:39 [#01210289]
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The problem with pharmacuticals is they always cure the
symptoms, and rarely even consider the causes.

I think every cause of schizophrenia is a little different -
So doctors need to look carefully at the patient and
consider all options... Nicotene has very strong links with
schizophrenia I hear.


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-05-27 07:45 [#01210304]
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I hate nations and countries.


 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 08:02 [#01210333]
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*puts on debating gloves*

Psychosis

as drunken says, of course if we had a 'cure' it would be
utilised. antipsychotic medication, combined with cognitive
behavioural therapy and other psychosocial interventions, is
the best we have at present.

if you had ever worked in a psychiatric environment, you
would not dismiss such medications as causing a "slight
change in mood and state of mind". perhaps you are talking
about the older generation of antipsychotics, rather than
the much more effective atypical ones (eg. clozapine) which
emerged in the 1990s. it's a significant change which
removes the suffering of horrifying hallucinations. granted
it's not getting at the root cause, but that's why we need
more money for research, which is why I admire countries
like canada and sweden.

The rehabilitation of paedophiles

Clearly we must stop paedophiles from offending again. (One
particularly good reason being that most paedophiles were
themselves abused as children... suffering begats further
suffering). The Circles project in Canada has provided
evidence that accepting paedophiles back into the community
reduces the risk that they will reoffend.

If an offender is ostracized, isolated and hated in his
community - spat at, chased in the street, left with nothing
to live for - what on earth is to stop him from offending
again? There is nothing left in his life besides pain and
rejection, so he will fall back in despair to his basest
pleasure, even though he knows it to be wrong.

"that's one less on the streets"

missing the real danger to children

sympathy for the devil


 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 08:26 [#01210382]
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*removes debating gloves*
*puts on victory hat* :)


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2004-05-27 09:15 [#01210436]
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There's no place like home!

:)


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2004-05-27 09:19 [#01210446]
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I'm proud to be an american where at least I know I'm free
and I wont forget the man who died to give(?) that life to
me, so I proudly stand up next to him......THANK GOD FOR
USA!!!

Go figure I dont even know that song. I'm glad to be alive
no matter what country I lived in.


 

offline lupus yonderboy from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 09:31 [#01210472]
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i`m in belfast and i can`t wait to get back to scotland....i
defo feel much more at home there than here.....


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-05-27 09:32 [#01210475]
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the US is a very nice country... I've seen a fair amount of
it through traveling around, and it's very nice...


 

offline FlyAgaric from the discovery (Africa) on 2004-05-27 09:37 [#01210485]
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i love this place though i love travelling and checking out
other cultures


 


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