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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 07:13 [#01210234]
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In the film he claims, if the U.S. had lost the war, he would almost certainly have been tried as a war criminal.
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Nora
on 2004-05-27 07:15 [#01210238]
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i'll watch the documentary, and you know why because i'm willing to read all sorts of material. people went haywire in my terrorist thread simply because i decided it to get it from fox. the funny thing is i heard about the terrorists from cnn. they're all one sided thinkers. i'm sure people go out of their way to insult me when i'm not in accord with their extremist left wing shit.
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Nora
on 2004-05-27 07:16 [#01210239]
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read/watch*
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-05-27 07:17 [#01210243]
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Taffmonster,
"nora your the sort of person that makes me hate americans.. "
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"thanks christ they aint all like you "
LOL WTF MAN?!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-27 07:17 [#01210244]
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I was being sarcastic about the Islamic fundamentalists there, sadly not about the neo-nazis though. Some folks even had swastikas in their windows when I went there a couple of years back. :(
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-05-27 07:19 [#01210248]
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p.s. you guys clicked on this thread
so stop fucking posting in it.
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Nora
on 2004-05-27 07:20 [#01210250]
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i was sorta caught off guard when i saw that avg. white surbanite in the list with the rest of the suspects. i can't believe you can get in america's most wanted list in no less than 3 years.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 07:20 [#01210251]
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i'm not extremest left-wing, and 'Fog of War' is definately not Left-Wing but it is extremely informative and thought provoking.
maybe you should have posted the link from CNN :)
once, i saw a bit of Fox News (my mom watches it unfortionately) and they had a guy on there who was saying how disgusted he was that Bush apologised for the torture and murder of Iraqi prisoners! They even had so called experts saying how they still expected to find WMD even when the head US weapon inspector declare they wouldn't find any WMD. Its almost like a government propaganda channel, you might as well just get your news straight from the whitehouse.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-27 07:21 [#01210252]
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when you're an american talking about terrorists and such, you'll need more sources to rely on. Preferrably sources outside of the US. That's just the way it is.. all americans who can't back what they say with several sources will be distrusted immediately. It's the sign of the times right now.
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Nora
on 2004-05-27 07:27 [#01210259]
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i'm sorry norway but nobody is throwing themselves in resolving this issue, example, france, germany, etc... i prefer to get my news from people who dont have a laid back approach with this problem. i already pointed to nacmat the problems his socialist gov't are going ot go through, because this isnt' the first time it happens to spain, they had terrorists attack back in the 1930's if i'm not mistaken. people choose to believe whats convenient. i'm not saying i'm GOD when it comes to news, but theres no reason why i should feel bad for getting information from foxnews or any other source for that matter.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 07:28 [#01210260]
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Aphex Twin
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 07:29 [#01210262]
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"but theres no reason why i should feel bad for getting information from foxnews"
there are lots of reasons, but i can't be bothered to go into them...
*leaves to finnish his essay that has to be handed in tomorrow, shit*
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-27 07:31 [#01210268]
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yeah, but the problem is that the only country that still sees a problem, and in many cases create more problems with the way they are handling things is america.. there is too much "yee-haw-ism" in the way your government handles things... and the news ARE biased.. there's nothing to be done about that, unfortunately. therefore, comparing several sources can give a fuller view of the true events.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-27 07:37 [#01210283]
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oh, and the biased-thing doesn't only apply to american press.. it applies to everyone.
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nacmat
on 2004-05-27 07:49 [#01210310]
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autechre!
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hobbes
from age on 2004-05-27 08:04 [#01210340]
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"As for terrorism goes it is hardly ever pointed out that the U.S is, after all, the only country condemned by the world court for international terrorism_for "the unlawful use of force" for political ends, as the court put it_ ordering the U.S to terminate these crimes and pay substancial reparations. The U.S of course dismissed the Court's judgement with contempt, reacting by escalating the terrorist war against Nicaragua and vetoing a Security Council resolution calling on all states to observe international law ( and voting alone, with Israel and in one case El Salvador, against similar General Assembly resolutions). the terrorist war expanded in accordance with the official policy of attacking "soft targets" _undefended civilian targets, like agricultural collectives and health clinics_ instead of engaging the Nicaraguan army. "
this was'nt long ago, and far worse has been done by the U.S since.
but if you believe then Nora that that means i support your list above you are mistaken. i just dont believe everyting is black and white like that.
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Nora
on 2004-05-27 08:33 [#01210395]
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"As for terrorism goes it is hardly ever pointed out that the U.S is, after all, the only country condemned by the world court for international terrorism_"
that alone is laughable. i stopped reading after that ridiculous anti american propaganda. good day to you sir. i must head out to my statistics course now!
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2004-05-27 08:36 [#01210399]
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i just hate all this war on terrorism shit. you cant fight a war on people who belong to no particular order, country or sect. terroists arent and isolated group on an island you can bomb. Blowing up these countrys is just blowing up civilians. Terroism isnt new it just seems the rest of the world has been dealing with it for years and suddenly america gets something big and now everyone else has to care and bush has to go storming round blowing up shit. America openly supported the IRA whilst they were planting nail bombs in small pubs and killing loads of innocent people. is that not terrorism?
"i was sorta caught off guard when i saw that avg. white surbanite in the list with the rest of the suspects"
It seems you need to realise that terroists arent all islamic infact i recently watched a documentary on right wing texans converting to islam after sept 11 and there is a surprisingly large number converting, so you may find you views are more towards islamic ones ?
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hobbes
from age on 2004-05-27 08:39 [#01210401]
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wha?
just check it out it's easy to find out if it's true or not, especially as you seem to be so into your research you will find it's not anti american propaganda at all!!!
i just thought it would be useful to also be reminded of this.
why do you think i'm anti american? can that conclusion be made and how?
as for the quote you put, i meant "was the only..." i dont know if recently that has changed, but check it out! this happened mid 80s.
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hobbes
from age on 2004-05-27 08:40 [#01210402]
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that was for Nora. (darling)
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2004-05-27 08:40 [#01210403]
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Boards Of Canada
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-05-27 09:24 [#01210456]
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RADIOHEAD GODDAMNIT!
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 09:27 [#01210464]
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overrated
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2004-05-27 10:59 [#01210612]
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No not really. And is comming from someone who doesn't even listen to Radiohead haha. I can deffinetly see their talent.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2004-05-27 11:00 [#01210616]
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Nora what music do you listen to ?
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-05-27 11:06 [#01210631]
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i liked the part where nora said that facts were nothing but anti-american propaganda... you get that comment about as regularly as you get israelis calling anyone who disagrees with them anti-semites (an usually they are accusing someone who is of another branch of semitic faith... just to add on a whole other level of irony)
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-05-27 11:17 [#01210661]
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I like how Yavo busts in and posts "aphex twin" then later Nac replies "autechre" in a followup fashion!
Truly a classic moment in XLT!!
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