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i listen to that which would be considered "noise" more than just about anything else these days... and it sounds nothing like the music that most of you are describing... first of all, opening the thread by restricting the inclusion of artists like oval and fennesz makes no sense, because noise does comprise a large portion of what they do (it's like saying: talk about rock... just don't talk about the rolling stones or the beatles...)... describing them as melodic, and therefore not noise, implies that noise has no melody, which is horseshite... and also speaks volumes about just what it is that i find interesting in good noise music... that is: it explores the kind of melodics and harmonics that other music will not tread upon because of its perceived unpleasantness... it explores the kind of abstract compositional forms (or non-forms) that other music will not tread upon because of its perceived inaccessibility... in short, noise music accepts and draws from as its inspiration the beautiful sounds and impressions in nature--something that is much more broad and chaotic than your typical musical form... it accepts a much more broad definition of what constitutes music... like uzim said, the sound of a train arriving is beautiful, why not explore it? perhaps one might argue a lack of melody... but this isn't true, it just doesn't fit into the western melodic scale--i believe the correct term is 12 tone?-- which is very much constructed and has not been with us for all eternity. "Noise" is the term used to refer to the music that doesn't adhere to normative conceptions of what music can be... there was a time when people would call rock "noise, and the same can be said for bebop and pretty much every other jazz form that grew from it... if there were no stockhausens, cages, whitehouses (giarcthebastard where are you?), there would be no aphex twins... am i saying that noise is empirically superior to other forms of music? no... |
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... but the image of what noise music constitutes in this thread: noisey, unchallenging, simplistic, not thought out, indulgent, nihilistic, etc. this kind of conception only illustrates just how little noise music most people have even heard... again, i'm not accusing everyone here of never having heard any.... but does it surprise me at all to hear comments like "yeah i heard a noise album once... noise music is no good", or the fact that the only three artists mentioned were Merzbow, Aphex Twin, and Hecker? not in the slightest... |
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it's not because i didn't speak about many so called 'noise' artists, that i ONLY listen to hecker & smojphace (huge fan of mego). deadeight, please give us your top ten of noise friendly cd's. |
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I made noise once.. then I stopped, and used the noise as a snaredrum and hihat. Same sample, but different volume-curves. |
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did you know that noise = rock? "Sludgy, abrasive, and punishing, Noise is everything its name promises, expanding on the music's capacity for sonic assault while almost entirely rejecting the role of melody and songcraft. From the ear-splitting, teeth-rattling attack of Japan's Merzbow to the thick, grinding intensity of Amphetamine Reptile-label bands like Tar and Vertigo, it's dark, brutal music that pushes rock to its furthest extremes. By the end of the '90s, a resurgence in the use of sine waves ? originally explored by musique concrète artists in the '50s ? became increasingly frequent among noise artists such as Otomo Yoshihide." - Allmusic.com |
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I only rarely appreciate merzbow'ish noise. (Satanstornade's 'Fend off...' is OK) Ambient noise, like Tim Hecker's 'Enima' or Signer's 'Light Fails Me' though, I really like a lot |
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noise is best "live" it think. When the artist is in-the-zone so to speak. Examples i've heard: Whitehouse (power electronics), The Both People(drones and loops), Sunn-o(drones), Russel Hassle (laptop static)...... it get really hypnotic when you're at a venue listening to this stuff. |
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I just get tinnitus. And that was from a four tet concert. His concerts suck. |
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ha ha mastah :P |
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i hope you heal Drunken Mastah... =( |
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yeah, no i am aware that some of the people in this thread listen to other things than that which has been mentioned, which is why i said "some"... but in any case, your question is probably more constructive than my disclaimer soo: stuff that might be construed as "noise" that i really like: Poire_Z (which is Erik M, Voice Crack, and Gunter Muller... they often work seperately... they are all quite nice) Philip Jeck (not always noisey... but definitely at times) Z'ev Nurse With Wound Hafler Trio Otomo Yoshihide Stilluppsteypa Kevin Drumm Christian Marclay Peter Rehberh (aka Pita) Aki Onda Hazard Zoviet*France Oren Ambarchi Fennesz Oval |
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question: would you consider aphex's "the beauty of being numb section b" to be noise? |
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indeed....i know some classify My bloody valentine, Fennesz, and others as noise music. |
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