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sneakattack
on 2004-05-21 21:36 [#01201198]
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can you honestly imagine saying 'intelligent dance music' out loud? I certainly hope not--it's the most pretentious genre moniker ever conceived. Might as well call it "the stick in my ass makes me better than you".
IDM sounds kinda neat; maybe I'll think of it as ingesting diabolical matrix, or intrinsic destructive malice, or interstitial diabetic malignancy, or ..
luckily everyone who knows what I listen to hates it, so I can refer to it as 'my shit', or 'that twitchy shit', or ..
yes yes, we've been over this before (no I'm not referring to my threads sucking.. haha yes I aren't)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-21 21:38 [#01201199]
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i think the name suits intelligent listeners that we most definitely are.
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sneakattack
on 2004-05-21 21:40 [#01201200]
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ok, so I recommend we elevate the name even further, i.e.:
MAJESTIC GENIUS AUDIO FIBRILLATORS
(the last of course because our intellects allow us to make sense of anything)
how about
GLORIOUS TWATS
you twat
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-21 21:41 [#01201202]
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infact mabye it could be called "music for intelligent people only"
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-21 21:41 [#01201203]
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excellent...just what i was thinking.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-05-21 21:42 [#01201204]
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just what i was thinking, even before i read this
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-05-21 21:43 [#01201205]
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i gave up. ppl always ask me what i listen to, it goes like this
"so what are you into?" "IDM" "what?" "intelligent dance music" "huh?" "experimental electronica" "hm?" ".....techno..." "eww that sucks, its so repetative and gay" "well i also like ambience" "huh? whats that"
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-21 21:44 [#01201206]
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techno > idm
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-05-21 21:44 [#01201207]
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i like that :D
music for intelligent people only
MFIPO
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sneakattack
on 2004-05-21 21:45 [#01201208]
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you know, if you don't want to slander the good name by calling it various forms of shit like I do, I recommend violence:
"you listen to what?" *uppercut*
"wait, who?" double backflip ultra ineffectual judo seismic counter wave!
12389
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-05-21 21:45 [#01201210]
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i like it
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-05-21 21:47 [#01201211]
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It should be called Electric Boogie Break Dance
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sneakattack
on 2004-05-21 21:49 [#01201212]
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too siss-ass, sorry sis. Needs to evoke at least some superiority, even if veiled. therefore I recommend REVERSABLE MUTANT SEIZURE FORCE
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-05-21 21:49 [#01201213]
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i like IDM, the term and everything. i have no problem with it. but others do when i try and explain. because the word dance is in there, all the ppl who try to explain it to use the combination of the word dance and electronically made to quickly categorize it as rave or techno. then they immediatly think i listen to darude, and thus im a faggot.
hmm
ill give it a try myself.
Intelligent Pattern Noise "IPN"
if you dont like it fuck off
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-21 21:57 [#01201215]
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i tell them the truth when ppl ask me; i listen to the most brilliant music but it's for intelligent people only, so fuck off dumb asses.
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sneakattack
on 2004-05-21 21:58 [#01201216]
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comeon, but how can you stand to say it is 'intelligent'?
I have a real problem with adjectives used in naming schemes which provide no illumination and only have subjective semantics, often arrogant. For instance in programming there are 'smart pointers', which are usually 'scoped pointers' or 'reference counted pointers'--the word smart is meaningless, and just makes the originator look like a cunt.
me and my intelligent cat listen to intelligent music in my intelligent home, because I am so intelli haughty
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-05-21 22:09 [#01201221]
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yeah i know it is a little arrogant but really, it took allot of intelligence to produce some of the electronica we listen to. and we have to say its intelligent because in the fields of music genres, its the smartest most intelligent one there is when compared to some others such as pop and rap.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-05-21 22:16 [#01201223]
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who farted?
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-05-21 22:22 [#01201224]
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sorry.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2004-05-21 22:30 [#01201225]
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a t shirt with:
music for intelligent people only
on it would be lush
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-21 22:31 [#01201226]
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Anyone who uses the term IDM should be ridiculed from now on.
-IT IS YOUR DUTY-
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-05-21 22:33 [#01201228]
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the one who smelt it dealt it
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2004-05-21 22:39 [#01201231]
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yeah I can imagine it now:
Stranger:"Hey man, what kinda music is "music for intelligent people"?...I just saw your shirt...."
Me: "Exactly, your too dumb to know."
and walk away.
how fun would that be
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sneakattack
on 2004-05-21 23:06 [#01201244]
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FACT: I am a cunt
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-05-21 23:21 [#01201247]
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"So what do you call this music?"
me: "IDM"
"whats that stand for?"
me: "No clue, thats just what people call it. I dont think it stands for anything really."
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-05-21 23:43 [#01201252]
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i only call it electronic
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-22 00:51 [#01201270]
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call it bass
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-05-22 01:10 [#01201274]
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a nice juicy one though
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-22 02:26 [#01201296]
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Come on, no one has a problem with product names like, "Power Shakes"...
People have been using self-congratulatory names in music for years and unlike the IDM artists, the artists/labels themselves made them up. Look at early turntablists, everyone is "Grandmaster", "Grandwizard", "Grandmixer" or "Cutmaster". Dub artists prefix their artist name with, "Prince" or "King", etc.
Certainly, "Intelligent Dance Music" sounds like you think you're more intelligent than your average pop/commercial dance fan (who likes nothing else), but let's be honest, a hell of a lot of us are, aren't we? The fact that we get upset over the way people percieve us as elitist (because of the name) is so common that it's recognised as a quality of IDM fans in itself! "...some of them despise the term..." (Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music)
So; it's not an ideal name, and even by genre definition's standards, it's not a great indicator of what a track will sound like (compared to saying, "Oh, it's Indie-rock" or, "It's Drum and Bass"), however, and this is the most important thing and the reason
a) We use genre names and b) We shouldn't let it worry us is, IT'S SIMPLY CONVENIANT WHEN TALKING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS SORT OF MUSIC MUSIC!
Certianly, the term isn't ideal, but it's pretty much here to stay, even if we all boycotted it, the press/industry would still refer to it as that. So, let's keep using it, but keep a knowing glint in our eyes as we say it, eh? :)
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big
from lsg on 2004-05-22 04:30 [#01201341]
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i just say experimental electronica, but that more a description than a name
but whats the use of the name idm if nobody knows it or wants to use it
but we're just stuck with idm, braindance is gay (in the original meaning of the word mostly) anyway
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cie jiks mawp
from motion to descend (Australia) on 2004-05-22 08:33 [#01201495]
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lets call it rabbitface.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-05-22 08:34 [#01201497]
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its been done like a gazillion times before.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-05-22 08:35 [#01201500]
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ahhhh it's ok, leave it as it is.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-22 08:48 [#01201520]
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The term idm really does seem to be dying out. The phrase is more often critiqued than actually used.
"mentally ill computer music music"
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big
from lsg on 2004-05-22 09:11 [#01201530]
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ah, that was quite funny the nonsense remarks, never refrain from posting those people
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