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C'mon. You know its crappy. Not liking nintendo at all |
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They fell off on the main console front. GBA still rocks the socks though. |
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The DS looks like shite though. Weee another mario kart.... Rather play as good ole' Solid Snake on the PSP |
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I dont think it was Poop at all!! And as a Metroid vet of sorts, I was feelin' that shit, yo. ESPECIALLY the soundtrack. |
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fuckoff metroid prime = devine |
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Hella divine. I found a quarter... |
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i agree with Nintendo going downhill, but Metroid Prime is one of the best games on 128bit consoles i've played... seriously. |
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I hope you all are thrown into a vat of cough syrup! I'm going drool at some Front Mission 4 screenies now. |
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what do you dislike in Metroid Prime? |
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Cough syrup.....ewwww!! I got the Front Mission 4 demo yesterday....its Drooliful. |
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It should blatantly be Sega and Nintendo as the major console manufacturers these days. Having Sony and Microsoft controling the console market is like having Mr Kipling and Sainsburys fronting Formula 1 teams. Still, just shows how mass marketing ends up shooting consumers in the foot. Metroid - It's definetly one of the slickest games I've ever seen - It's probably the only truely next-generation game around. Although, I've got to admit, I don't play it all that much - I always find myself getting frustrated and not really enjoying the gameplay... It just feels like a personal challenge every time, and I feel exhausted after playing it for a few minutes. Might just be me though - I also don't like having to retread so much old ground in the game, and having the enemies reappear - Think I'm still more into the Half-Life/Wolfenstein type fps's. Just downloaded a PC Engine emulator (XPCE) - Getting down with Bomberman '94 and some japanese shoot'em ups. Bomberman is seriously involving - The difficulty and challenge are set to perfection! |
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Prime was awesome, and Echoes will be awesome. It surpassed my expectations, in that it actually FELT like a Metroid game. The only complaint I have is the lack of dual analog. Unacceptable in today's FPS' (or adventure games that resemble FPS'). But Nintendo is in BIG trouble. Don't let the shocking glee of a new realistic Zelda disguise the fact that Sony and Microsoft's overall E3 lineups put the 'Cube's to shame. When Donkey Kong Jungle Beat is one of your marquee titles at E3, and Sony is countering with Devil May Cry 2, Gran Turismo 4, GTA4, God of War, MGS3, two new Shining Forces and Dragonquest and Xenosaga plus a milion AAA RPGs, new Jak and Daxter/Ratchet and Clank, new Sly Cooper, Final Fantasy XII, Killzone, et al, you know you're in deep trouble. Unless Nintendo revolutionizes console gaming next gen, they're in deep shit, and better hope the PSP fails, because handhelds are the only thing keeping them afloat right now. I Nintendo to fall to third next gen. Currently, there's an argument over who's number 2. Microsoft is winning North America, but NOBODY in Japan will support M$! They didn't even buy Halo! I'm kind of hoping the same thing that happened to Sega happens to Nintendo. I think Sega is putting out a steady stream of brilliant games, though going unheralded, and Nintendo, despite getting their ass handed to them this generation, are still my favorite GAME DEVELOPERS. |
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Fuck off, theres a demo? uzim: It just didn't doo anything for me. The gameplay, the shooting wasnt satisfying. I prefer my medriod 2D flavored |
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And Sony is underrated. They're considered the mainstream, a marketing giant with no soul, but as a hardcore gamer, I can say those fuckers deliver way more often than Nintendo and Microsoft. Just in the last week, La Pucelle... now THAT'S the kind of game Nintendo and Microsoft has no clue about, but Sony pumps out those RPGs like clockwork. Maybe it comes down to money... and if that's the case, that's another strike against Nintendo, because they're making the biggest profit this gen, and blowing off gamers by releasing devs like Silicon Knights. Clueless. |
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How can I get the Front Mission 4 Demo? |
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Maybe I could mail it to you. |
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Why would you want to do that? |
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Sega have just been bought out by Sammy - So they're going to be going more arcade oriented it would seem. I've been a little disapointed with Nintendos' line-up on the GC and N64 - Even though they're the best company to be ruling the console market, they've just not got the support they need from developers. Problem with Sony and Microsoft is they put out a LOT of shit quality games - There are much fewer bad titles on the GC, and even less on the Dreamcast. Your average Dreamcast game does look and play about 3x better than your average XBox game. |
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"they've just not got the support they need from developers." Yeah but does it really matter? Apparantly about 90% of Gamecube-owners really only just want Nintendo-games. Games that have been pretty succesful on other consoles often sell shit on the Gamecube. Nintendo has just created it's own audience. An audience that would probably be happy to buy nothing but Nintendo-developed titles. By the way what I just said is not official research or anything. :-p But I vaguely know a guy who works in one of the biggest toystores in my town at the videogame department. So this is pretty much based on what that store sells. But it seems logical. I bet if something like Grand Theft Auto was released on Gamecube, it wouldn't sell that well. Only 3rd party titles that because of their design somehow seem to fit in the "Nintendo Universe" sell pretty good. For instance that guy said Beyond Good & Evil was selling really well for Gamecube, whilst there was hardly any demand for the Xbox and PS2 versions of it. I'd be pretty interested to see some figures if sales were like that all around or just in my town. |
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''Your average Dreamcast game does look and play about 3x better than your average XBox game.'' That's debateable... but nobody buys consoles for ''your average game'' anyway, do they? Did anybody base their Xbox purchase on Pulse Racers or Futurama? They based it on Halo, Ninja Gaiden, Splinter Cell, Doom, Sega's ESPN line, Project Gotham Racing, Rallisport Challenge, Morrowind, Rainbow Six, etc. And nobody bought the Dreamcast because of Blue Stinger. Nothing on the DC can touch those Xbox titles in their respective genres, and I'd like to see Ninja Gaiden running at 480p on a Dreamcast. Microsoft did great this gen, brought a lot of innovation to the table. Xbox Live is a godsend, the hard drive was a revelation, etc. People buy consoles based on triple-A system sellers, not ''average games''. Those are the games you just grab from a bargain bin when they're a year old. |
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And I agree with the ''Nintendo Audience'' thing. They have their own unique feel and style. And it might not matter to this audience whether or not Nintendo has third party support, but it should matter to Nintendo! No audience is more hardcore than Sega's, and look what happened to their hardware division because of no third party support... |
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It's very hard not to pull for a guy like this, though- |
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"And it might not matter to this audience whether or not Nintendo has third party support, but it should matter to Nintendo!" Yes, I agree. I'm sure Nintendo is in alot of trouble right now, no matter how much they deny it. I bet the PSP is really making them nervous as well. It is definitly the most serious competition the Gameboy ever had. And you can bet Sony is going to promote it like crazy. By the time it gets launched there won't be a living creature on this planet who doesn't know what a PSP is. If they want to survive they probably need to find ways to reach people besides the Nintendo-fans who will buy their games anyway. Lately they've been talking about reaching people that don't play videogames already. I have no idea how they intend to do this... but if they would manage it, that would be pretty clever. Because I really don't think they're going to be able to convince the Playstation-audience to switch to Nintendo. It's too late for that probably. It would be REALLY strange if they went the way of Sega. I can't imagine playing the next Zelda on a Playstation at some point in the future. Altough I suppose it's all in the mind... if they continue to make the same quality games it doesn't really matter what console they get released on.... but still... a big part of me still hopes they manage to survive on their own. :-p Another option would be to just become a smaller company. To just continue to please their existing audience and not worry too much about competing with the big guys Sony and MS. Kinda like Apple is doing on the PC-market. It would mean less games probably... but I'm willing to bet their fanbase is big enough to keep them going this way. It may seem farfetched, but in all honesty it's probably a more realistic futurevision than Nintendo becoming as big again as they were in the NES/SNES days. Those days are just over. |
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Haha, that was a really cheesy moment, but still pretty cool in a nerdy kinda way. :-p Things like that can only happen in the videogame-industry. Imagine if Peter Jackson would have walked on stage dressed as a hobbit during the oscars. People would have laughed at him, and nobody would ever take him serious again. But when the same thing happens on the E3 everybody loves it. :-D (me included). |
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Miyamoto is the man |
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I shed a tear when Sega dropped out of the console wars, but I like what they've done since then. I like how it's turned out. Gunvalkyrie, Shenmue 2, Jet Set Radio Future, the solid Sonic games (with their horrid soundtracks), Otogi, ESPN, Panzer Dragoon, the new Shining Forces, Shinobi, Rez, Virtua Fighter... and I can't wait for the new Altered Beast and Astro Boy games! A lot of high quality games, an elite developer. I've long ago adjusted to the fact that they don't have their own system anymore. But who would have guessed this would happen 10-11 years ago, when the Genesis was winning the console wars? Times change. The problem is, to my knowledge, none of these are big sellers. And with EA buying the entire NFL license, Sega might have just taken a big hit. But ''artistically'', Sega is as strong as ever. I hope they don't concentrate more on arcade games, like the rumors are stating... I haven't been to an arcade in years! They're only big in Japan. And I'm not in Japan, as far as I know. So Sega's pretty much a ''smaller company'', pleasing their rabid fans right now. I wouldn't mind if this happened to Nintendo. I don't like the way the 'Cube has turned out. BUT, I don't like the idea of two consoles, either! Three is just right. That's why I was excited when Microsoft stepped into the ring, it really revitalized video games for me. So maybe I'd prefer them to have a console, and be third place. I don't mind them being ''niche''... they're going in that direction anyway. It's pretty much a given that Sony is going to be even further ahead next gen, and Microsoft is here to stay... where that leaves Nintendo, I'm not sure. It's going to be darn interesting next gen on the Nintendo front. The idea of powerhouse Nintendo first party titles getting out to a wider audience is really tempting... I want a Mario game to get GTA or Halo-like sales figures. Nintendo could be the most dominant third party dev ever... |
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If N5 sinks, and they can't sustain a console anymore, they'll always have their handheld dominance to fall back on... after thinking long and hard about it, I've recently come to the conclusion that I think the PSP is going to be to the DS what Game Gear was to the original Gameboy, sales wise. It's going to be rock solid, but Nintendo is just too established in that market right now. Sorry, Sony. I do think the PSP will have some amazing games, though. But I don't think that matters at this point. Worrying is probably pointles, anyway. Nintendo will never stop making console games, their intellectual property is just too great. Either of Sony or Microsoft would be at each other's throats to get their support. |
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I never had a sega-console like you ophecks. So in a way you've "been through this" before. ;-) So to speak. I've read your post, and I pretty much agree with everything your saying. But yet in my heart I'm screaming: NO NO NO! IT'S JUST WRONG! DON'T LET THIS EVER HAPPEN! Hehe. I dunno. Try to remember how you felt the first time you heard Sega was stepping out of the hardware-market.... and I guess that's what I'm feeling right now. Logically and from a business-standpoint it all makes sense. Their games would reach a much bigger audience if they became 3rd party. But emotionally... no... it just doesn't feel right :-p "I don't like the way the 'Cube has turned out." Why not? You mean technically, or because of the poor support? "If N5 sinks, and they can't sustain a console anymore, they'll always have their handheld dominance to fall back on..." Yeah but that's really not the same! Handhelds are a pretty decent way of passing time... but no way does it compare to playing on a homeconsole. Jeez, if that was the future I'd downright prefer them to go 3rd party. All those wonderful games just released for a handheld. Never playing Mario on your tv-screen anymore... *shudders* I'm not so sure yet the PSP is going to fail. On the one hand I think it will. Because it offers nothing more or different than the PS2. So people will wonder why they should get it. If they can just play the same kind of game comfortably on their PS2. But on the other hand it does have the name Playstation. Out there in the real world people consider Playstation to be "cool", and Nintendo to be "kiddy". I can imagine certain people being too embarassed to play with their Nintendo DS on the train, whilst they think playing with their PSP on the train will make them look cool and sexy. And you can bet Sony is going to market it that way too. Probably hardly focussing on the games, and more on the "PSP-lifestyle"... I think lots of people might fall for it. |
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''I never had a sega-console like you ophecks. So in a way you've "been through this" before. ;-) So to speak.'' Haha... at one point, I was a BIG Genesis fanboy. But Saturn and Dreamcast did not live up to my expectations. So Sega's downfall occured over a period of 7 years. Nintendo's got lots of time left to turn it around. Miyamoto is excited, so we'll see what happens. And I agree about the handhelds thing. I don't even own one (I play GBA roms, though). What I meant was, I think they're fairly financially stable because of their handhelds. And thus, they'll always have a place in the business. And they'll ALWAYS be making console games, even if they don't have their own console. How much money would Sony pay for a Zelda game? Microsoft? Nintendo would be sitting pretty! There will always be Nintendo console masterpieces. As far as the Gamecube disapointing me, there's a few factors. The third party support obviously being number one. I own over 50 PS2 games, almost 50 Xbox games, and only 11 Gamecube games. And 8 or 9 of them are first party! The other three are Capcom- Viewtiful Joe, and the two Resident Evils. I just have a tough time finding games I want for the 'Cube that aren't by Nintendo, or aren't for Xbox. And Nintendo games are far between. Online is another. Even though Pandora Tomorrow is coming out for Gamecube, it won't have the revolutionary online multiplayer. That's pretty unacceptable in 2004. And Halo 2 is set to raise the online bar even more. I also can't stand the controller. The control sticks aren't even clickable. Those are the buttons I set to ''crouch'' and ''zoom in'' when I play FPS games, so I get annoyed when I play a GC FPSs. And 3 shoulder buttons also makes no sense. The PSP will probably be REALLY expensive. Sony will have to take a big loss if they want to get their foot in the door, and it might not be worth it for them. It does look sexy though. I want to lick it. And I'm definitely buying it. Metal Gear Acid. |
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Yeah the 3rd party support... it's tricky. It's a shame more companies aren't supporting the gamecube. So many games are being released for PS2 & Xbox only. It really makes you wonder. Where did it go wrong? (I can't believe how many games you have btw :-p Where do you find the money to pay for all of that? And more importantly: where do you find the time to play with all of that!?). But if I were a developper, Nintendo wouldn't be my first choice either. If only for the fact that they can reach much more people thru Sony and MS. Nintendo is just weird like that. It's like they don't even care that much about 3rd party support. I've read once that out of all 3 consoles, the licensing-fees are most expensive if a company wants to release a game on gamecube. More expensive than for sony and microsoft. Nintendo really can't afford that kind of attitude if you ask me. And I have no idea if it's the same in the US, but over here in europe their distribution is a mess. Big gamecube-exclusive games (viewtiful joe, Harvest Moon) are absolutely unfindable. I have litterally never seen either one of those games in a store. I had to order Viewtiful Joe online. I even mailed Nintendo about it, but they didn't really seem to care. They wrote back I should ask EA (who distributed it) about that, lol. I can't understand it. They should be promoting games like that... making sure it's available everywhere. I have a feeling that by the time it gets released, RE4 is also going to be as hard to find. If I were Capcom I'd be pissed off about things like that. I can only agree with you about the online-issue as well. I'm really baffled as to why Nintendo isn't doing anything with that. People want it! All over the internet people are literally saying the want to play Nintendo-games online. Why don't they just listen? Lol. They have nothing to lose and alot to gain. It's really hard for me to understand their viewpoint on this. |
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There was a point in time when I would discuss gaming as vehemently as you guys, but those days are far behind me. |
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But still I'm plenty satisfied with my gamecube. I must admit I've never really played with PS or Xbox controllers... so really, I can't compare. But the gamecube-controller works fine for me. I can use it totally intuitive, in my opinion it's even more comfortable than the N64 controller... and I LOVED that one. (especially the Z-trigger... best placed button on a controller *ever*). I like the way it looks (purple! :-p), I like the way it hardly has any loadingtimes... and most of all I like the games. You're right the PSP will be really expensive. Especially at launch. If it sells well they'll probably be able to drop that price a little... but I still think Nintendo DS is going to be more affordable. Right now there are also lots of rumors flying around that the PSP battery will only allow you to play games for 2 hours before it runs out... (because it runs on cd's instead of cartridges... so it needs moving parts and an engine) but I can hardly believe that'll be true. Sony would be mad to release a handheld that can only be used such a short time. They'll probably find a way to work around it I'm sure. I must admit it looks really good, especially the graphics... but still I've already made up my mind that I want a DS ;-) |
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i thought it was a good game. although i never really played the earlier metroids. |
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Yeah, Nintendo are notorious for being buttheads with their licensing. There monopolistic in the old days, and now they're penny pinchers. It could come back and bite them in the butt in the future. Silicon Knights (Eternal Darkness/Twin Snakes) got sick of it, and jumped ship. Who knows where they'll end up. And although I'm disapointed with the 'Cube, that doesn't mean it's a total loss. All of the Gamecube games I own, I think very highly of. They're more than justified the money I paid for the console. I don't think you have to worry about RE4 being hard to find (or maybe things really ARE bad there!). That game is being hyped to high heaven. It's beyond AAA. EA disributing Viewiful Joe? What the heck? About games- the reason I have is because I'm such a music pirate. ;-) Most of my funds go to games, and not music. That's just my number one passion, and I can only afford to heavily support one of them. Also, I take advantage of Blockbuster. I don't know if there's any Blockbusters in It Won't Be Hard to Live Your Stupid Life, but you can get some ridiculous deals there. A few weeks ago, I got Gunvalkyrie and Jet Set Radio Future for 15 dollars. And they practically GIVE AWAY games that don't come with their cases or their manuals. I've got a few games that came with just jewel cases, but it's worth it. I've never been afraid to buy used games, I've never had a problem. They all end up used eventually, anyway. Main game storage, minus a few (no room left)- you can see my modest Gamecube pile. :_-( |
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"Yeah, Nintendo are notorious for being buttheads with their licensing." Yeah in the old days (NES) they actually only ALLOWED publishers to release 5 games a year. Things have sure changed since then... but sometimes it's like they think they're still living in the 80's. By now they should be begging publishers to release games on their system. Throw some more money at it even to make it exclusive like Sony and MS do all the time. "I don't think you have to worry about RE4 being hard to find" Yeah, on 2nd thought that game is probably too big to go by unnoticed. They even showed it at the E3 pressconference in the same trailer as Metroid Prime 2. But at the time of release, there was also a small Viewtiful Joe hype going on. Atleast on the sites I visit. Everyone was really excited about that game coming out. People wanted it badly. And yet it was (and is) nowhere to be found. "EA disributing Viewiful Joe? What the heck?" Yeah weird huh? Here's what Nintendo wrote me: Beste Erik, De ditributeur van Viewtiful Joe is Electronic Arts. Wij vermoeden dat zij er gewoon te weining besteld hebben. Maar voor een concreet antwoord, kun je het beste zelf met de organisatie contact opnemen. It means: Dear Erik, The distributor of Viewtiful Joe is Electronic Arts. We suspect they probably just didn't order enough copies of it. But for a concrete anwser, the best thing to do would be to contact that organisation yourself. Damn. It would have made me feel a little better if they had written something like: "Yeah we know that game is hard to find, something went wrong. We're trying to solve the situation because we know alot of people are after VJ." But nothing. The mail I got back from EA was alot more helpful, as they directed me to an online-store that still had the game in stock. |
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Well I see piracy DOES pay off ;-) Atleast in your case. That's an impressive collection you've got there. Not that I'll ever switch to your side though :-p I'll always continue to buy my music. There's no blockbusters over here. Too bad I guess, because it sounds like they have some crazy deals. Sometimes if you look around you can find some cheap games over here aswell. Altough never to the extent where I've bought 2 games for $15. That's really cheap! "And they practically GIVE AWAY games that don't come with their cases or their manuals." Well that's never happened to me. Are all canadian stores so clumsy as to loose game-manuals and cases? :-p Well good for you I guess. With games (unlike music) I don't care too much about having the complete package. If I could buy a game cheap if it was just the game in a jewelcase, I would! Without hesitation even. I don't mind getting them 2nd hand either. Altough with gamecube-games you've got to be careful there aren't any scratches on it. In the cartridge-days it was easier... those things were unbreakable. But still, a few months back I bought Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Mega collection together for about $25 (used). That was a pretty good deal for me. (altough I dislike Sonic Adventure). And yet I've only got 22 gamecube-games. And none for PS2 or Xbox :-p Again I wonder about the time-issue. I hardly have time to play with all my games. In the old days I would only buy a new game if I finished the previous one... but now I'm beginning to wonder if I'll ever be able to finnish all my games. How do you manage that with roughly 112 nextgen-games in your collection? :-p |
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