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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-05-19 20:28 [#01196759]
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there were quite a few classics
i saw super mario rpg in a store yesterday
i cant stop thinking about getting it...
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-05-19 20:44 [#01196769]
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i've been playing final fantasy 3 (VI) again lately... such a wicked game... (and super mario rpg is pretty nice too)
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-05-19 21:46 [#01196780]
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earthbound............
super mario rpg is the shit.
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-05-19 21:47 [#01196781]
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damn youve surpassed me in posting power. i knew this day would come. :)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-05-19 21:53 [#01196783]
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it's the battle of the songtitles off of drukqs!!! i can think of any right now, but surely there are others (?)
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-05-19 21:57 [#01196786]
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hahahhaahha, ...yeh......
bbydhyonchord.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-05-19 21:59 [#01196788]
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yeah i thought there might've been someone called that... good track choices all of them...
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Q4Z2X
on 2004-05-19 22:00 [#01196789]
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rpgs were at their pinnacle in the days of snes yesteryear.
And yes. yes. earthbound. so much humour & character.. many of us cherish that title, even if they've only got a rom file.
.. .. .. damn.. i think i am turning dyslexic.. it took me forever to type that and i kept jumbling all the letters within words.. and leaving out words.. and most still don't look like they are spelled right..
why does this type of stuff have to set in now, after 19 years of life on this fuckin' planet?
my brain's turning to shit. i guess.. it must be time to give up my last, lingering bit of sanity to an snes-rpg..
or maybe even a genesis game of some kind.. even though i didn't actually have one back in the day, and it won't be nostalgic, that "all your base.." phrase just might make some sense to me now..
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wimp
on 2004-05-19 22:28 [#01196807]
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I so agree with Q4ZSX's first statement.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-05-19 22:39 [#01196808]
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yeah, it was the best time of my life.
i can remember those days clearly, the cool blowing winds of a hot summer day, birds chirping away and white fluffy clouds, the fresh newly rented copy of secret of mana in my little hands,
the scent of the brand new ink in the instruction maunal...
ahhhh
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-19 23:48 [#01196830]
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The two best games of all time are 1- Chrono Trigger 1b- Earthbound
I remember the day I got both. Chrono Trigger was a Godsend, and I knew it was going to be. From the moment I saw the preview for it in EGM, I knew this game was going to be ridiculous. Both Chrono games crushed their competition, including Final Fantasy. I think Cross is still one of only two 10s that Gamespot ever gave out, and those pricks are harsh.
Earthbound was a huge surprise. I read a review for it in an old EGM (Street Fighter 2 on the cover), and it didn't look like it merited my attention. Then a week later, I saw it on sale on a local video game store in a HUGE box. It came with a big strategy guide, complete with hideous scratch and sniff stickers. It was cheap, and obviously the kids were too busy buying cool, mature, hardcore stuff like Mortal Kombat II to care about plain looking games like Earthbound. So I took a chance on this ugly duckling game. I still can't get over how funny it is.
I heard a Gameboy Advance version was in development, haven't heard much on that front... my God, it had better be good.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-19 23:51 [#01196831]
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Some independent developer geeks are working on a 3D remake of Chrono Trigger.
Pretty redundant, remaking a game that was without flaw.
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optimus prime
on 2004-05-20 01:06 [#01196885]
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does link to the past count? i've been playing the rom for the past two nights.
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Q4Z2X
on 2004-05-20 01:51 [#01196910]
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they really should make a 3d earthbound of some kind..
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-05-20 01:52 [#01196912]
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"i cant stop thinking about getting it..."
Just get it. I had to pay a ridiculous amount of money to get my hands on it, but it was worth every cent. What a brilliant game.
Illusion of Time was a really good one too, developped by Enix before they joined Squaresoft. It was a little too easy perhaps, but the story was absolutely fantastic. I got sucked into it and played almost nonstop for days. Brilliant.
The sequel called Terranigma was one of the few rpg's (probably the only one) to be released in Europe and not in the US. Hehe, I was always so frustrated that all the good games never seemed to make it over here and that those americans got all that goodness. And then finally it was the other way around one time :-p
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Combo
from Sex on 2004-05-20 01:59 [#01196916]
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IMHO Chronos Cross is the best RPG of all times.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-05-20 08:58 [#01197656]
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yeah?
it is the last game i need to complete my collection. im not gonna go and spend 80-140$ each on the last remaining copies of FF3 and Chrono Trigger (SNES) because i already have the PS collectors editions. And i have mana and evermore, so i guess that leaves mario RPG, its going for 30$ where i saw it and its in terrible looking condition. hell i could have sworn there were bite marks on the side. which is very odd seeing as they looked like the exact same bite marks i inflicted on the cartridge when i was having trouble with a part of the game. could this be my old copy which has been selling around the city for the past 7 years?
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-05-20 09:04 [#01197666]
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They're all exactly the same. Some powerful morally bankrupt corporation trying to use the Earth's power to make money... then you play some dude using the Earth's power to fight them. Complete shit, all of them.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-05-20 09:06 [#01197673]
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Crono Trigger was good. Crono Cross sucked ass.
That 3d remake looks awesome, especially if its exactly like the original only 3d. I would play it for sure.
My alltime favorite was FF3 (VI), I had tears at the ending... truly the most epic game I've ever played.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-05-20 09:07 [#01197679]
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Oh so you've already played the game? Well that changes it. I find that rpg's are alot less fun to play through a 2nd time.
Altough it's been 7 years you say, so you might have forgotten alot of the story and such. It's up to you I guess. $30 seems like alot for a cartridge in such bad condition. Altough if there was some way to find out if it really was your old copy... that would be kinda cool! :-p I reckon then it'd be worth it. Maybe you should take a picture of the bitemarks and ask your dentist about it ;-)
(there is a reasonable chance it's the one I think... probably not alot of cartridges get bitten I suppose. In my case it was usually the controller that had to suffer when a game frustrated me. I bit them, threw them around the room, hit them against the edge of my bed etc.)
Ofcourse there is always the chance Nintendo will decide to port it to GBA. Not a bad idea infact, there is a whole new generation of kids who've never experienced it.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-05-20 09:13 [#01197690]
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The Chrono Trigger remake is a stupid idea imo. What's wrong with 2D graphics? Kids these days don't know how to use their imagination anymore. ;-) SNES-rpg's left alot more to the imagination. Nowadays you see every location in glorious 3D-graphics. Every emotion is portrayed on the characters faces... in the SNES-days you had to imagine all of that stuff. The game just told the story and that's it. It's like when book gets turned into a film. The film is easier to enjoy and fun to look at. But the book stimulates your imagination much more and ultimately has more depth.
Besides, from what I've heard they're not going to remake the entire game. Just some of the most important scenes. That makes it even more pointless :-/
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-05-20 09:16 [#01197701]
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yeah, 7 years is a long time, i remember the story and gameplay for the most part but all the nostaglia would get me euphoric so i guess i will purchase it :)
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rudster
from the glasgow on 2004-05-20 09:20 [#01197715]
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My fav was obviously Zelda on SNES but Sword of mana came very close,
everyone is forgetting the amazing Shadowrun aswell
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-05-20 09:20 [#01197716]
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That's right.. ignore me 'cause I'm right!
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-05-20 09:23 [#01197730]
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I have FF III waiting for me in my drawer full of SNES-games. I bought it together with FF II... and I thought I should play through FF II first. But that game has ages pretty badly :-( The graphics look... okay. Altough on the simple side and almost without animation. The music on the other hand is fantastic.
But what really puts me off is the translation. Ugh... I don't know who translated it, but the results are laughable. Full of weird grammar and stupid simple sentences. It makes quite a boring read and manages to destroy the entire plot (which seems interesting enough otherwise). After a few hours I felt forced to stop playing. I think at some point I'll just start with FF III and forget about II.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-05-20 09:28 [#01197761]
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No you're not :-p
Well I suppose you could say all the outlining plots are similar (not the same but similar). But for me, what really matters with an rpg is the character development and all the neat little touches and small side-quests. Those are the things that can really make a world come alive. That's what creates the atmosphere and the feel of a game... and in that aspect all the rpg's I've played were very different from each other.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-20 10:29 [#01197958]
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Illusion of Time? Rings a bell, are you talking about Illusion of Gaia? Maybe it's called something different in North America. Anyway, I loved that game, even if some of the ''dungeons'' were waaaaaayyy too huge and confusing. The story was awesome, I still remember that sweet little raft scene. Ahhhhh! :_-)
I recently traded Counterstrike for Xbox (what was I THINKING?) for my cousin's Final Fantasy 9, which I've never beaten. Started a save, and it's OK. Final Fantasy 8 will always be my favorite. Squall is the best character ever in an RPG, and he makes up for the goofy experience system.
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Combo
from Sex on 2004-05-20 10:33 [#01197963]
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Squall is weak and FF 8 is definitely the worst FF ever. The 7th was the last good FF but after it has become too easy and there's been a lack of imagination IMO. Chrono Cross rocks ; who tells the contrary must have never played it.
Illusion of time = Illusion of Gaia. It's a really nice game.
FF6 is really great but too easy IMO.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-05-20 16:44 [#01198860]
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Ah yes, I believe it was also known as Illusion of Gaia. Combo confirms it so it must be true. Such a good game. I liked how they made the action element alot of fun to play. That guy had plenty of moves. Probably more than Link. It played like a dream.
And yes, ofcourse the story was the best part :-) Actually I don't remember it too well :-o But I remember being moved by it on several occasions. And there was also a great feeling of being on a huge journey all across the world.
One of my favourite moments was when I left a town. And later when I wanted to use one of my items I suddenly noticed a strange object in my inventory that I hadn't seen before. It turned out to be a letter that began with: "I secretly slipped this inbetween your equipment while you were sleeping" :-D Absolutely brilliant!
One of my worst memories though was when I had finished the game... defeated the last boss and I put down my controller to sit back and enjoy the ending. And right at that moment my mom walked into to room started talking to me (I don't even remember about what. Probably just some boring conversation like "how was school today?" etc.). And I tried to make her go away. "Mom, I really want to see this." But she wouldn't listen. "Oh don't be silly, it's just a computergame. Put it on pause or something."
Aaaargh! How can someone have such bad timing? It was horrible. After she had (finally) left I had to hit reset and beat the game again to watch the ending. I remember it was worth it though. Days later I was still thinking about that story and how it ended. God, it's so strange I don't recall it now anymore. :-s I vaguely recollect the ending taking place in modern times. In a school or something.... damnit I just forgot. I'll have to replay it again sometime soon.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-05-20 16:46 [#01198863]
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FF6 (3) and Earthbound were fantastic games. I wish they'd remake em for the GBA
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-05-20 19:44 [#01199092]
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i just got back home, with super mario rpg :D
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-20 20:42 [#01199164]
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Why is it called FF6?
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-05-20 20:43 [#01199167]
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Its the true name. You see there were six japanese ff games at the time. They only released a few of them in english up to that point, so the numbering sequnce got fucked up.
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D-Steak
from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2004-05-20 22:27 [#01199376]
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hey gwely, dont forget about that Hidden Final Fantasy boss in Super Mario RPG .....
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-05-20 23:20 [#01199455]
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snes rpg's i played secret of mana (all time classic) seiken dentetsu 3 (secret of mana 2... he'll it rocks) star ocean (wonderful game, but all roms had pretty shitty english and many bugs...)
chrono trigger (without comment :D) final fantasy 6 (another very good rpg)
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-05-20 23:23 [#01199457]
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you should try secret of evermore
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-05-20 23:32 [#01199460]
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i played it.... i just forgot it !! silly me
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-05-21 19:16 [#01201011]
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I'm almost done with FF2. Its quite boring though. And the music repeats too much and stuff. I'm kinda forcing myself to beat it though, then I can move on to FF5 (the one with the henious amounts of class/job systems).
But I think you might enjoy FF3 (6) more. The graphics are better than ff2 and the story is really great. I dunno, when I first played it I was young and I really got involved in it because it was super-high tech and stuff at the time of its release, but when i go back, I feel like I'm missing some of that 'original' feeling.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-05-22 01:11 [#01201275]
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Congratulations! :-D Have fun replaying it. I'm sure you will.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-05-22 01:15 [#01201277]
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its been so long, i forgot where to put my bonus level up points for each character (and i know that was very important to have a perfect data)
also, i think its sort of cool how even after 7 years i still remember where the hidden chests are, but not my school exams.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-05-22 01:16 [#01201278]
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"Its quite boring though. And the music repeats too much and stuff."
Hm... so you're saying it doesn't get better as you go along? I really don't think I wanna put any more time in it in that case. Maybe I'll sell it again. Since it was never released in europe I could probably get a good price for it.
I'm sure III will be better :-) I know what you mean though... nothing is as special anymore as the games you played when you were a kid. Even when I go back to my old favourites from that time... well it's still good fun, but some of the magic has dissapeared.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-05-22 01:22 [#01201281]
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"also, i think its sort of cool how even after 7 years i still remember where the hidden chests are, but not my school exams."
lol ;-)
yeah life is full of priorities.
Those bonusgames are pretty tricky. Especially the one with the racing yoshi's! But it's very nicely done how they break up the rpg-element every once in a while and let you play those minigames. I also like how you can come back to replay them whenever you like. So by the time you've reached the last level, your savegame has become a minigame-collection of sorts :-)
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