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because it's the easiest/hardest business to get into... i mean it's one one hand easy, cause you have hundreds of programs, you can start of today making music.... fruity loops, reason etc... on the other hand, the fact that there are so many artist's springing out of the earth like mushrooms after rain, labels are overrun with shitty stuff and demos... i can imagine they aren't really listening to it anymore, just toss them into junk. then there is the problem, that there ARE in fact some artist doing something fresh, but as soon as they're album is out you can get exactly copies of them by other artist's. this business is fucked... i would want to get into it but... no chance |
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im making a good living at it |
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lol |
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then just start your own business. make your own record label, put out whatever records you want, promote it, book yourself on tour, etc. what nobody seems to pick up on is that anyone can just do it themselves if they work hard enough at it. the industry is garbage and there is no reason that anyone should be it's slave. be your own record industry. |
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my mate's friend is about to start his own record company... excitement :D |
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*mate's dad. lol |
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STARVING ARTIST SYNDROME : you either make it or you dont then you can make art/music you love, its not really a job and live off it unfortunately: a lot of people dont become famous until they are dead |
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I'd hate to be famous while I'm alive. |
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i'm not sure you said that ironically or not... |
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I guess the part that would suck is you'd be trying to sell your music not just strangers, but to the small group that actually pays attention to you like friends and stuff. I think I'll make enough money in my other job, so now there's no purpose other than extra greed of things to buy, to sell any art I make. |
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there's nothing ironic about it. in the early '80's, punk rock bands did exactly what i described. no one would play their music, so they established their own labels and zines, put out their own records, went on world tours, had loyal and hardcore followings that loved the music. if groups of * literally * starving punks could go on international tours and be popular to this day, you can as well. i suppose the main difference everyone has how you measure success. if you want to be rich and famous, i see no precedent in the idm world (afx is probably the most successful), but that could change if that's what you really want to get out of it. however, people who are rich and famous are generally sell-outs, with few exceptions. if you love art and you want to live off that, all it takes is a lot of dedication, hard work and talent, and eventually you can quit your day job just like a lot of people have already done. or if you don't want to sell your art as wMw described, that's fine too. i see the underground idm world as having A LOT of potential. it has tons of benefits that no other movement had before - the internet = instant global exchange of ideas. how else could you work with artists all over the world? say you make a friend in some other country on this messageboard and need to crash on his/her couch when you're on that idm world tour? the possibilities are literally endless. i agree that it's lame to take advantage of friends. don't try to base sales on how many copies of your cd your friends will buy. you really have to think in broader terms if you want to have a career at it. |
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all profits to charity.... ... :) |
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I think this is a case of really getting out there. Sadist I have listened to your work and I abso-fucking-lutely love it. It's fucking excellent m8. Sure you can send off demos to record companies and like you said, they'll probably most likely toss it onto the junk pile. This then is obviously not the way to go. I suggest if you really wanna get going then try for jobs at night clubs, make some friends in high places and if you get lucky your trax will get passed onto someone higher up in the food chain. For example, Aphex was made famous because of the mixture of AB #1 and Radio 1 actually playing it. This is what you want. |
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keep in mind, to get anywhere you need to work your way up. Its not always just about sending demos to a label. Because really, it hardly works like that. Even if you are good, they want to see that you are dedicated, and have put forth an effort to spread your music and get a fan base. Play live, as much as you can. Anywhere. Get your name out. Pass out demos. Sell CD-rs if you want. Release stuff on web labels. Find really small labels to distribute your stuff... even if no one notices the release, due to lack of funds to promote it, at least you're doing something. Then, when you go to a larger label, you can be like "ive played 50 live shows, sold X amount of CD-r, I have a release on this label, and songs on an mp3 label that for X hits and downloads. If you want to release your music, realise it is a business. Clear and simple. People need to be convinced that you are good, and can make them money... because when it comes down to it, they are dropping money, and money is how the business world talks. There are 4 types of people. people who suck, and dont know how to promote themselves. people who suck, that do know how to promote themselves. people who kickass, and dont know how to promote themselves. people who kickass, and know how to promote themself. theres only one person who cant make it. the person who sucks and doesnt know anything. Someone who sucks, but knows how to market, can make it, someone who kicks ass but doesnt know how to promote themselves... well, if they dont learn, they wont make it, but those people can learn.... by researching and learning, and the last is obvious. Seriously. You can do it. |
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it's easy i'd say. comparred that is. |
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dude thats amazing, you hit the nail on the head its so funny hearing people here say "im gonna send my stuff to rephlex, warp, and skam" there are a billion small record companies, some of them do ok, some of them fail, what you said was correct, get your name out there GIVE your cd-rs away, or sell them cheaply, im not gonna pay $10.00 for a cd-r, more like an easy $5.00 if you expect to make it your going to have to try hard, and constant, not just i tried for 6 months crap a lot of pepople do it just for FUN and see where it takes them |
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eggs-act-lee |
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Smaller labels listen to your stuff. They even give feedback. |
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some very good points here. i like it guys. nice attitude. |
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