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offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2004-05-13 14:58 [#01186796]
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Class war, race war, generation war, religious war and war
between genders will all outbreak while at the same time
we're fighting against muzzies on multiple fronts.

That, my friends, is going to be tough shit.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-05-13 15:00 [#01186797]
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life is shit. shit...fuck this shit.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2004-05-13 15:00 [#01186798]
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agreed...but whats a nigger supposed to do :(


 

offline Free your mind from UmeÃ¥ (Sweden) on 2004-05-13 15:01 [#01186799]
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and fuck the USA...


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-05-13 15:02 [#01186803]
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i'd say that, though not completely uniform, for the most
part people who are on one side of the class war are also on
the same side of the generation war, gender war, religious
war, etc.

it's not really that much of a multiple front war..


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2004-05-13 15:02 [#01186804]
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Is war better now than it was before? Is it more fun?


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-13 15:11 [#01186823]
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Better special effects, better actors, better plot. In
short: YES!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-13 15:13 [#01186825]
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what insight!


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-05-13 15:13 [#01186826]
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Just live your own life and allow others to live theirs.
Class war (has always existed and probably always will),
race war (is better now than it was in the past), generation
war (this isn't even a war), religious war (religion is used
as an exuse for war but isn't the reason) and war between
genders (not a war at all). Stop getting so wound up by
media coverage. Media sensationalism of events that have
and always will exist isn't symbolic of the collapse of
society.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-05-13 15:17 [#01186830]
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i don't see us quite shipping of to hell in our handbasket
yet... but i think there is something to be said for the
fact that many societies are facing a pretty significant
polar clash right now... it's probably true that media
sensationalism has something to do with it... but it just so
happens that the majority's perception of society is
directly affected by this sensationalism, and is spurred on
by it...


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-05-13 15:20 [#01186836]
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Most westerners I know (you know, the type who don't go on
internet message boards) don't give a fuck about the media.
A group of net geeks worrying over the collapse of society
isn't going to make it happen. British tabloids...which are
the only source of news for the vast majority of british
people are more interested in whether David Beckham had his
knob sucked by Rebecca Loos than prison abuse.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-05-13 15:23 [#01186840]
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well i can't speak for britain, but i know what's pasted
across all major media sources in north america... and it's
the kind of polarizing issues that have been running ever
since that damn day a couple of years back...


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-05-13 15:24 [#01186845]
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that said, Olsen twin coverage seems to be on the rise as of
late :I


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2004-05-13 15:26 [#01186849]
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There are many differences between the different sons of
man, but from the westerner steeped in decadence to the
zealot martyr with a head full of lofty aims and a bomb
strapped to his bollocks, all unite in the vision of one day
waking up in a world and being able to say "I think I'll
play that new Aphex album". Until that day dawns, bloodlust
will prevail.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-05-13 15:27 [#01186851]
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North American media always operates on political motives.
That is the reason there are a lot of extremists on the
continent.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-13 15:29 [#01186854]
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After that, it will be a very long very unhealthy spiral
downward for the rest of humanity. Hopefully something lik e
nuclear war or nanotechnology will make it more abrupt and
less painful. At least I won't be there, and at least no
direct decendent from my genes will be there. Can you say
the same? You don't have my support humanity. I've wanted
you to lose for a very long time.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-13 15:30 [#01186855]
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religious war... so uhh if no-one would believe in god there
wouldn't be a war at all... hmm


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2004-05-13 15:34 [#01186860]
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I dont believe in any god...tho


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-13 15:35 [#01186863]
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"religion is used as an exuse for war but isn't the
reason"...
hmm.. you're a smart feller.

a gender war would be nice, like a real one with swords and
guns. I'd participate. Maybe I'd join the female's team.

Hell yeah, olsen twin coverage is on the rise... they're on
like 3 different magazine covers at the store. I'm glad I
don't have any cable tv.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-13 15:36 [#01186866]
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I can't wait for the artilect war as predicted by hugo de
garis. Terminator 2 is a good movie. I am my only friend.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-13 15:37 [#01186868]
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They'd/we'd find a reason. People were born to fire
heat-seeking rockets at each other. It's sad to see all the
fighting going on in the world, but I can't imagine it being
any other way.

Humanity is always going to be fighting, but we're in this
together until 2884, when the 1950DA asteroid is destined to
crash into the Atlantic Ocean and own us. Look it up.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-13 15:41 [#01186875]
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true, i agree,
i wasn't being serious in that other post :)


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-13 15:58 [#01186903]
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best news I've heard all month. Too bad it's only 1/300 c...


 

offline wimp on 2004-05-13 16:00 [#01186909]
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Illustrated.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-13 16:04 [#01186916]
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nice.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-13 16:34 [#01186940]
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Ecnadniarb hits the nail on the head in the first post of
his that I've agreed with 100% in ages! :P


 

offline polygonwrong from United Kingdom on 2004-05-13 16:47 [#01186951]
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hehehe


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-05-13 16:58 [#01186958]
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you talk to much fuckng sense to post on here. seriously.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-13 18:14 [#01187060]
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Lee, it would seem you have found yourself a new batch of
fresh bitches to call your pwn.


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2004-05-13 18:21 [#01187080]
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i think it is inevitable that we will destroy ourselves,
unless there's some kind of intervention. it would be hard
to argue that it is not in our nature given our known
history.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-13 18:23 [#01187083]
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..the history in which we haven't actually destroyed
ourselves..?

:P


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2004-05-13 19:23 [#01187137]
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!! ha

that's a joke, right?


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-13 19:32 [#01187142]
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Jesus fucking christ

Maybe it's true. This is one of the most seriously
disgusting thiings I have ever read.


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2004-05-13 19:58 [#01187150]
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that's...

....

...unfathomable.



 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-13 20:00 [#01187151]
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God damn that is so frightening. I'm glad I'm not a little
boy anymore. It's fucking sick how they talk about their
daily encounters with 'cute little boys'. SICK SICK SICK
SICK. They are dangerous.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-13 23:20 [#01187330]
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How in the WORLD do websites/forums like that stay open?
Isn't there anything some sort of authority can do? Or is it
really perfectly legal until someone actually states ''I
fucked little Billy?''. Christ.


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-05-13 23:30 [#01187343]
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i would comment, but i really can't intelligently comment on
this, because i really don't care. Oh yes, and i agree with
Lee.


 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-14 03:27 [#01187531]
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Agree with all Ecnadniarb points except this casual
dismissal of "generation war"

>generation war (this isn't even a war)

Of course, calling every kind of conflict or schism a war
doesn't really help us understand anything (just another sad
influence of the washington neoconservatives and their
pervasive jargon... a war on terror anyone? wtf!). But I
think the age issue may become much more significant in the
developed world in the next 50 years:

birth rates and mortality rates dropping
--> an increasingly aged population
--> proportion of economically actives: dependents dropping
(exacerbated by increasing numbers of people on long-term
sick leave)
--> economic quagmire.

We may well be faced with a situation in which a country
(eg. the UK), still too jaded with thatcherite individualism
to realise that 40% is not a high enough top rate of income
tax, has to make a choice between adequate education for the
young and adequate provision and healthcare for the
elderly.

This conflict will be coloured by class, as are all economic
conflicts, cos you know it's not the CEO's son or elderly
parents who are gonna feel the squeeze.



 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-05-14 13:53 [#01188547]
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What side of the race war will you be on?


 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-19 12:36 [#01196005]
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not the human race's, that's for sure.

dolphins, maybe. I fancy their chances. you know those
fuckers could get all vicious and shit with those flippers


 


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