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offline zero-cool on 2004-05-12 02:55 [#01183734]
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fuck that's something i can't even watch


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-12 02:59 [#01183741]
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jesus... what did they use, a pen-knife? Christ, that was
rough stuff.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-12 03:00 [#01183747]
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did you watch the tape? if so: why?


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-12 03:13 [#01183773]
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Wow I must've been more drunk than I thought. I watched
this, I thought it was hilarious.


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-12 03:17 [#01183779]
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i wanted to see how i'd feel about it and i feel pretty
fucking sick so tough shit on me.

i thought it'd be a one-cut excecution style deal, not a
prolonged fucking butchering. Does it matter? I dunno.... i
think it probably does. Either way...... i recommend NOT to
watch this.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-12 03:20 [#01183784]
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so, the entire fucking thing is on camera? that's fucking
sick!

did any of the guys on there look as though they were going
to get sick or something?


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-12 03:35 [#01183804]
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No they looked like it was just another day where you cut
someones head off :/



 

offline big from lsg on 2004-05-12 04:37 [#01183877]
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it hasnt been confirmed yet it's real
"it hasnt been confirmed yet the tape's authentic", my
morning paper said


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-12 04:38 [#01183879]
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yeah.. in theory, this could be one of the most un-ethical
election-campaigns ever!


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-05-12 04:46 [#01183885]
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by kerry then?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-12 04:47 [#01183887]
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no, kucinik.


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-05-12 04:49 [#01183889]
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who? zeus?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2004-05-12 04:49 [#01183891]
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the Al-Qaeda are not related to Iraq, so their actions
should have no bearing whatsoever on the US Soldiers Raping
and Murdering their captives. That's not even shocking, they
do it at every war they start -- it's an alpha male (and
female now!) thing.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-12 04:54 [#01183894]
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since al-qaeda aren't related to iraq, Bush can claim they
are hiding somewhere else, and just bomb another country he
wants to control!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2004-05-12 04:58 [#01183896]
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Bush won't be around for much longer; there won't be any
more countries invaded.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-12 05:03 [#01183901]
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if bush manages to catch the people responsible for chopping
this mans head off, his vote-count will surely rise
drastically! bear in mind that the tape may be bullshit
made-up by the bush-administration!


 

offline cie jiks mawp from motion to descend (Australia) on 2004-05-12 05:13 [#01183915]
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it looked real. it is spooky how they chanted as it was
happening and the first scream he makes.


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-12 05:23 [#01183931]
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thank fuck i had the sound off......

.... poor bastard.


 

offline gack from the middle of nowhere (Germany) on 2004-05-12 05:32 [#01183951]
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the war of images continues...



 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-12 07:28 [#01184126]
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It doesn't NEED to be confirmed, it's obvious. Fox Mulder
himself couldn't come up with a feasible conspiracy theory
here.


 

offline polygonwrong from United Kingdom on 2004-05-12 08:21 [#01184196]
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Sick fuckers


 

offline zero-cool on 2004-05-12 08:33 [#01184217]
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the quality is really shity


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-12 08:38 [#01184229]
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yeh.. its not a really good quality execution. Himmler - now
he really knew how to put on a show.



 

offline zero-cool on 2004-05-12 08:40 [#01184235]
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yeah they should of at least had a fucking torch light, or a
good sharp camera, fucking arabs(those guys)


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-05-12 12:31 [#01184611]
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There are better quality copies available. I personally
think it is real. Quite interesting to watch. I knew as
soon as they started to cut that they were going to have
trouble getting through the spine, it would have been better
to use the traditional slide the knife up the back of the
victim which makes them tense up and the chop the head off
cleanly with a sharp knife and a clean blow.

The whole thing was executed in a bit of an amature fashion.
Which makes me think it isn't a professional Al-Queda
operative.

This man will be hailed as a martyr now. He isn't, he is
the victim of a unjust war against an unbeatable enemy who
will continually show they are willing to go to further
extremes than our troops are publically allowed to do
(although I do think brutal revenge attacks will take place
against Iraqis in captivity).

Bush has this mans blood on his hands.


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-12 12:41 [#01184636]
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This is horrific. I can't put into words how it affected me,
just that its truely sickening.


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2004-05-12 13:01 [#01184652]
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made me feel ill i had to turn it off before it finished
fuking sick planet


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2004-05-12 13:38 [#01184723]
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We do indeed live in a bitter and cruel world. That video
was terrible.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-05-12 13:43 [#01184738]
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i havent had the courage to actually watch it

i dont think i really need to, too


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-05-12 13:49 [#01184757]
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I didnt watch it. Lee's describing the spinal problem made
me feel uncomfortable. I have a very vivid memory. :(

Lee you are right when you say "bush has this mans blood on
his hands"



 

offline knobcheese from Perth (Australia) on 2004-05-12 14:38 [#01184900]
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meh

watched the one off ogrish.com and it was too fucked to see
anything apart from the fact that it was really hard to cut
the spine and they had to keep pulling his head back to get
to it.

but otherwise it looked not so real.


 

offline knobcheese from Perth (Australia) on 2004-05-12 14:40 [#01184905]
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i'm bout to cut my own head off


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-13 02:07 [#01185656]
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the video made me literally sick

for the sickos who want a better quality (tho i havent seen
the one from ogrish - this version got me more details i'd
asked for):
http://temp.eyecannon.com/iraq2vediom.wmv
(purposefully not lazy linked)
NSFW

the us should get the hell out of that shithole


 

offline Jedy from dublin (Ireland) on 2004-05-13 02:36 [#01185689]
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i watched that today
theo posted it on tav com

is really harsh but they actually tried to exchange him :

"For the mothers and wives of American soldiers, we tell you
that we asked the U.S. administration to exchange this
hostage with some of the detainees in Abu Ghraib, and they
refused."


http://www.gainesvillesun.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20
040512/ZNYT03/405120309



 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-13 02:37 [#01185690]
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1,000,000 AIDS orphans in Africa.... i don't see the U.S.
moving in there. if you spent the same budget on
education/orphanges and community programs etc i wonder how
much you could turn around the forgotten continent



 

offline Jedy from dublin (Ireland) on 2004-05-13 02:48 [#01185709]
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but...there is not oil over there


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-13 03:01 [#01185719]
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no oil? i guess they're fucked so

The sooner somebody invents the water-powered car, the
better. Has anyone written a "what-if" account of how the
worlds economy would change if oil wasn't so depended on?

I think it would radically change the balance of power.



 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-13 03:06 [#01185725]
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what if the world's economy wouldn't be so dependent on oil:
there wouldn't be an economy. no oil, no society. oil is
everywhere! africa is screwed. bush and rumsfeld however are
the ones who should be screwed. bury their white
capitalistic asses deep inside the earth and make fuel out
of them in 10.000 years.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-05-13 03:07 [#01185726]
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This kid had every opportunity to leave that country.
Instead, he networked and travelled for work? In Iraq? Huh?


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-05-13 03:10 [#01185732]
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ye who controls the spice, controls the universe.


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2004-05-13 03:12 [#01185736]
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I watched it, and I really wish I hadn't. I have never seen
anything like that before, and I hope I never do again. It's
just..... shocking.

On a lighter note, here's an answer to your question,
Keyfumbler. It's about the Hydrogen economy, the proposed
solution for an oil-free world:

http://people.howstuffworks.com/hydrogen-economy.htm

Let's hope it happens soon.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-13 03:17 [#01185741]
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if it hadnt been that kid it would have been someone else.
this act was their (iraqis?) answer to the way the the us
treated their prisoners (iraqi or 911) - or appeared to
treat their prisoners. but that last bit doesnt matter: if
the pics were fake or real, this chopped head was at least
as real as those pics.
the fact that the us got this kind of answer to those
pictures shows how pointless their presence in iraq is.
every shitty bit of news (real or not real) about us
screwing things up with respect to the islam will be paid
back in tenfold.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-13 03:23 [#01185751]
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o, and as long as bushy and rummy have their puny asses
covering a seat in the white house -and probably the same
seat too-, things WILL be screwed up.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-13 03:25 [#01185755]
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these guys desperately need a perm B7.

Phobiazero?



 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-13 03:27 [#01185759]
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Bush made a statement yesterday, that he'd track down these
"enemies of freedom," and that this incident justified a
prolonged US presence in Iraq. I'm feeling more and more
like this is a fake set up by the bush-administration...


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-13 03:29 [#01185762]
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that would be even more sickening than that video


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-13 03:31 [#01185765]
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he's going to do it.. and his ratings to win the election
will improve... sneaky fucker.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-13 03:34 [#01185771]
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if bush wins the elections, i'll join the islam

and al qaeiuoda


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-13 03:35 [#01185774]
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haha! good idea!

I hope the americans take to their senses, and vote Kucinik
(or however that may be spelled...)!


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-13 03:42 [#01185782]
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according to our national paper american confidence in bush
dropped to 54% (whatever that means) ...a supposed to be
"new low".

*crosses fingers*


 


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