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zero-cool
on 2004-05-12 02:55 [#01183734]
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fuck that's something i can't even watch
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-12 02:59 [#01183741]
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jesus... what did they use, a pen-knife? Christ, that was rough stuff.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-12 03:00 [#01183747]
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did you watch the tape? if so: why?
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-12 03:13 [#01183773]
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Wow I must've been more drunk than I thought. I watched this, I thought it was hilarious.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-12 03:17 [#01183779]
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i wanted to see how i'd feel about it and i feel pretty fucking sick so tough shit on me.
i thought it'd be a one-cut excecution style deal, not a prolonged fucking butchering. Does it matter? I dunno.... i think it probably does. Either way...... i recommend NOT to watch this.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-12 03:20 [#01183784]
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so, the entire fucking thing is on camera? that's fucking sick!
did any of the guys on there look as though they were going to get sick or something?
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-12 03:35 [#01183804]
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No they looked like it was just another day where you cut someones head off :/
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big
from lsg on 2004-05-12 04:37 [#01183877]
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it hasnt been confirmed yet it's real "it hasnt been confirmed yet the tape's authentic", my morning paper said
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-12 04:38 [#01183879]
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yeah.. in theory, this could be one of the most un-ethical election-campaigns ever!
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big
from lsg on 2004-05-12 04:46 [#01183885]
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by kerry then?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-12 04:47 [#01183887]
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no, kucinik.
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big
from lsg on 2004-05-12 04:49 [#01183889]
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who? zeus?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-05-12 04:49 [#01183891]
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the Al-Qaeda are not related to Iraq, so their actions should have no bearing whatsoever on the US Soldiers Raping and Murdering their captives. That's not even shocking, they do it at every war they start -- it's an alpha male (and female now!) thing.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-12 04:54 [#01183894]
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since al-qaeda aren't related to iraq, Bush can claim they are hiding somewhere else, and just bomb another country he wants to control!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-05-12 04:58 [#01183896]
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Bush won't be around for much longer; there won't be any more countries invaded.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-12 05:03 [#01183901]
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if bush manages to catch the people responsible for chopping this mans head off, his vote-count will surely rise drastically! bear in mind that the tape may be bullshit made-up by the bush-administration!
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cie jiks mawp
from motion to descend (Australia) on 2004-05-12 05:13 [#01183915]
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it looked real. it is spooky how they chanted as it was happening and the first scream he makes.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-12 05:23 [#01183931]
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thank fuck i had the sound off......
.... poor bastard.
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gack
from the middle of nowhere (Germany) on 2004-05-12 05:32 [#01183951]
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the war of images continues...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-12 07:28 [#01184126]
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It doesn't NEED to be confirmed, it's obvious. Fox Mulder himself couldn't come up with a feasible conspiracy theory here.
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polygonwrong
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-12 08:21 [#01184196]
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Sick fuckers
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zero-cool
on 2004-05-12 08:33 [#01184217]
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the quality is really shity
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-12 08:38 [#01184229]
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yeh.. its not a really good quality execution. Himmler - now he really knew how to put on a show.
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zero-cool
on 2004-05-12 08:40 [#01184235]
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yeah they should of at least had a fucking torch light, or a good sharp camera, fucking arabs(those guys)
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-05-12 12:31 [#01184611]
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There are better quality copies available. I personally think it is real. Quite interesting to watch. I knew as soon as they started to cut that they were going to have trouble getting through the spine, it would have been better to use the traditional slide the knife up the back of the victim which makes them tense up and the chop the head off cleanly with a sharp knife and a clean blow.
The whole thing was executed in a bit of an amature fashion. Which makes me think it isn't a professional Al-Queda operative.
This man will be hailed as a martyr now. He isn't, he is the victim of a unjust war against an unbeatable enemy who will continually show they are willing to go to further extremes than our troops are publically allowed to do (although I do think brutal revenge attacks will take place against Iraqis in captivity).
Bush has this mans blood on his hands.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-12 12:41 [#01184636]
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This is horrific. I can't put into words how it affected me, just that its truely sickening.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2004-05-12 13:01 [#01184652]
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made me feel ill i had to turn it off before it finished fuking sick planet
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-05-12 13:38 [#01184723]
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We do indeed live in a bitter and cruel world. That video was terrible.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-05-12 13:43 [#01184738]
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i havent had the courage to actually watch it
i dont think i really need to, too
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-05-12 13:49 [#01184757]
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I didnt watch it. Lee's describing the spinal problem made me feel uncomfortable. I have a very vivid memory. :(
Lee you are right when you say "bush has this mans blood on his hands"
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knobcheese
from Perth (Australia) on 2004-05-12 14:38 [#01184900]
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meh
watched the one off ogrish.com and it was too fucked to see anything apart from the fact that it was really hard to cut the spine and they had to keep pulling his head back to get to it.
but otherwise it looked not so real.
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knobcheese
from Perth (Australia) on 2004-05-12 14:40 [#01184905]
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i'm bout to cut my own head off
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-13 02:07 [#01185656]
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the video made me literally sick
for the sickos who want a better quality (tho i havent seen the one from ogrish - this version got me more details i'd asked for):
http://temp.eyecannon.com/iraq2vediom.wmv (purposefully not lazy linked) NSFW
the us should get the hell out of that shithole
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Jedy
from dublin (Ireland) on 2004-05-13 02:36 [#01185689]
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i watched that today theo posted it on tav com
is really harsh but they actually tried to exchange him :
"For the mothers and wives of American soldiers, we tell you that we asked the U.S. administration to exchange this hostage with some of the detainees in Abu Ghraib, and they refused."
http://www.gainesvillesun.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20 040512/ZNYT03/405120309
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-13 02:37 [#01185690]
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1,000,000 AIDS orphans in Africa.... i don't see the U.S. moving in there. if you spent the same budget on education/orphanges and community programs etc i wonder how much you could turn around the forgotten continent
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Jedy
from dublin (Ireland) on 2004-05-13 02:48 [#01185709]
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but...there is not oil over there
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-13 03:01 [#01185719]
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no oil? i guess they're fucked so
The sooner somebody invents the water-powered car, the better. Has anyone written a "what-if" account of how the worlds economy would change if oil wasn't so depended on?
I think it would radically change the balance of power.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-13 03:06 [#01185725]
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what if the world's economy wouldn't be so dependent on oil: there wouldn't be an economy. no oil, no society. oil is everywhere! africa is screwed. bush and rumsfeld however are the ones who should be screwed. bury their white capitalistic asses deep inside the earth and make fuel out of them in 10.000 years.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-05-13 03:07 [#01185726]
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This kid had every opportunity to leave that country. Instead, he networked and travelled for work? In Iraq? Huh?
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-05-13 03:10 [#01185732]
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ye who controls the spice, controls the universe.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2004-05-13 03:12 [#01185736]
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I watched it, and I really wish I hadn't. I have never seen anything like that before, and I hope I never do again. It's just..... shocking.
On a lighter note, here's an answer to your question, Keyfumbler. It's about the Hydrogen economy, the proposed solution for an oil-free world:
http://people.howstuffworks.com/hydrogen-economy.htm
Let's hope it happens soon.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-13 03:17 [#01185741]
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if it hadnt been that kid it would have been someone else. this act was their (iraqis?) answer to the way the the us treated their prisoners (iraqi or 911) - or appeared to treat their prisoners. but that last bit doesnt matter: if the pics were fake or real, this chopped head was at least as real as those pics.
the fact that the us got this kind of answer to those pictures shows how pointless their presence in iraq is. every shitty bit of news (real or not real) about us screwing things up with respect to the islam will be paid back in tenfold.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-13 03:23 [#01185751]
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o, and as long as bushy and rummy have their puny asses covering a seat in the white house -and probably the same seat too-, things WILL be screwed up.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-13 03:25 [#01185755]
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these guys desperately need a perm B7.
Phobiazero?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-13 03:27 [#01185759]
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Bush made a statement yesterday, that he'd track down these "enemies of freedom," and that this incident justified a prolonged US presence in Iraq. I'm feeling more and more like this is a fake set up by the bush-administration...
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-13 03:29 [#01185762]
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that would be even more sickening than that video
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-13 03:31 [#01185765]
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he's going to do it.. and his ratings to win the election will improve... sneaky fucker.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-13 03:34 [#01185771]
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if bush wins the elections, i'll join the islam
and al qaeiuoda
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-13 03:35 [#01185774]
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haha! good idea!
I hope the americans take to their senses, and vote Kucinik (or however that may be spelled...)!
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-13 03:42 [#01185782]
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according to our national paper american confidence in bush dropped to 54% (whatever that means) ...a supposed to be "new low".
*crosses fingers*
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