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nacmat
on 2004-05-11 03:50 [#01181752]
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I understand that rock started in the USA, and then in the 60s UK also became like the birthplace of all pop music
but I wonder how has it come to a point that even spanish pop bands sing in english (sexy sadie, dover, melon diesel...) and not only that, any north european band sings in english too despite of their nationality, even in idm world.
bjork sings in english
right now names dont come to my head, but you know what I mean.
its obvious that english sends your work to lots more people, but anyway its incredible how english has become the only language of popular music
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-11 03:52 [#01181755]
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so more people understand it
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-11 03:52 [#01181756]
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well.. not every north-european band sings in english.. there are lots of bands here in norway that sing in norweigan, but the thing is that they don't get known outside of their own countries if they don't sing in english, 'cause people don't understand.
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-05-11 03:55 [#01181758]
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to earn more money
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-11 03:56 [#01181760]
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To make life easier for me.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-05-11 03:57 [#01181761]
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you don't have to use english to be successful. ofcourse it's safer to do so, that's the easy road a band might take to be more 'universal' acceptable. but, if you choose to sing in your native language, you will sound more unique and sincere, and that can be something people will notice and appriciate. i take for example Rammstein and Sigur Rós. both very succesful and unique, mainly because they choose their own language to express themselves.
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-05-11 04:00 [#01181764]
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Well music is a good means of cultural invasion. Globalisation etc etc.
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nacmat
on 2004-05-11 04:01 [#01181765]
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in the past decades only france (chanson) and italy really exported pop music in their own language
I understand the economical point of view but though english is a great and beautiful language, I think its important that the rest of the countries fight for getting a proper pop scene in their own language
bands will export if the product is really good
now its easier with inernet
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2004-05-11 04:04 [#01181770]
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I like the old kraftwerk songs much more in german than in english, Trans-Europa-Express for example...
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-05-11 04:12 [#01181776]
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I think japanese voices are the most pretty, but %90 of j-pop sucks :(
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Sepix
from Major City (Austria) on 2004-05-11 04:19 [#01181783]
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Bodenständig2000
rocked the states several times with german lyrics :)
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-11 04:23 [#01181787]
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songs in my own native language (dutch) sound far too straightforward. dutch songs have a typical metaphorical/poetic value of zero (with some exceptions of course). with respect to the dutch language english is a far more associative language.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-11 04:24 [#01181788]
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judge for yourselves: norwegian hip-hop act Side Brok:
Ein Likandes Kar
Det e Torstein Hyl
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-05-11 04:24 [#01181789]
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I like the 5,6,7,8's
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-05-11 04:34 [#01181807]
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that song in kill bill is the most unoriginal piece of shit i've heard. it has that familiar 'dundundundun dundundun dun' bassline that features in about trillions of other unoriginal songs. and also it's a rip-off of the familar ren&stimpy theme. i actually thought it was a r&s theme cover when i first heard the song.
but yeah, it's fun though. wh00 h00 wh00h00 h00 = which is the only "original" thing in the song
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-11 05:03 [#01181833]
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because everyone think britains and americans are superior.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-11 05:04 [#01181834]
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no, americans are fat pigs and britains have bad teeth!
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-11 05:05 [#01181837]
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££££$$$$$$$$$££££££££
and why doesnt the american keyboard have a pound sign on it? The english one has a dollar sign. Fascists
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-11 05:05 [#01181838]
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you and i know that, but everyone else doesn't.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-11 05:09 [#01181845]
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whehey!
the happy few
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2004-05-11 05:13 [#01181849]
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Its the legacy of British and American imperialism I'm afraid.
Not many non-English speaking bands dent our charts but the Super Furry Animals managed to get in the top ten with their Welsh language album Mwng.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-11 05:14 [#01181851]
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you should really quit watmm, and stay here. it will only do you good.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-11 05:15 [#01181852]
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whats a welsh?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-11 05:16 [#01181853]
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another thing that comes to mind, is that english is pretty simple, so you don't have to think much to put together something that sounds good.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-11 05:19 [#01181856]
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well, it currently seems to be the case that watmm has quit itself
...temporarily of course and as usual :s
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nacmat
on 2004-05-11 05:33 [#01181873]
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hopefully that will change soon
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-05-11 07:57 [#01182025]
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i always wondered why this messageboard is in english.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-11 07:58 [#01182027]
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que?
donda esta pollo?
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-05-11 08:02 [#01182029]
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ball?
shirt?
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-05-11 08:10 [#01182039]
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you mean there's other languages?
what'll they think of next?
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-05-11 08:11 [#01182042]
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Black people.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-11 08:17 [#01182049]
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Aside from China, English is the language most spoken in the greatest trade powers, as well as there being a lot of people who speak it in other affluent countries (like a lot of Swiss, Swedish and German people speak it reasonably well) you want to sell more copies or, at least the same number of copies but for more money, it has to be in English.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-05-11 10:53 [#01182307]
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English is spoken in the US... the US is probably the biggest commercial centre in the world... as far as materialism and shit... so, probably more people buy music there, so English would have a higher value I guess...
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-05-11 11:27 [#01182371]
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i am not fat. i am skinny and i play with skinny girls
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2004-05-11 11:28 [#01182376]
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Very true nacmat
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-11 12:02 [#01182465]
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skinny american girls? no way! they must be exchange students of some kind
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