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offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-03 22:35 [#01172042]
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Some other issues for me...

I could be wrong but, I feel some vibes from you I'm not
thrilled about...I want you to read this & be clear on some
stuff OK?

One other ISSUE I have about all this too is painfree dosn't
find, cultivate & release artists for the benefit of other
labels...the material was put on the site for ppl wanting to
buy the record...not really looking to help ppl & fledgling
little labels we don't know...so in future refer all
enquiries about artists & music from the PAIN site to me or
I won't help you out at all ever...deal?

"i heard
> dysphemics tracks on the site and i think he's really
talented (NO SHIT?)
and i thought
> he would go good on the compilation."

-shit like this does not impress me,,,,of course he's
taleted & of course lots of ppl want to sign him up: Thats
why he is signed already!!!!! His material will most likely
be the freshest & possibly the best on your compilation, in
my opinion, he are doing YOU A FAVOUR, don't forget that. I
put his MP3's up for punters not for fledgling labels to
pick n choose music they want dude. I see the benefit of
dealing with you...kind of...but if you continue to display
a lack of ethics -or ignore what I am saying to you, we will
can it...no matter how good the opportunity may be.

So far...I don't like your style saskrotch...I don't like
americans much
either but you may be of some benefit to julian in terms of
exposure so I
will deal with you...If you ever try & bullshit me in the
future & go direct
to sign up an artist I have developed...you'll pay dearly
for
it...understand? You treat my label and artists with the
respect we deserve
or fuck off. It's that simple.

I work really hard to develop dysphemic so NO any old jerk
can not roll up & take what they want? That material wasn't
even out & you wanted it...is this how you find ppl? Go to
labels you think are too small to give a fuck & try n sign
up artists already signed eh? perhaps you should look at how
you find artists, you seem to be doing it the l


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-03 22:36 [#01172044]
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you seem to be doing it the lazy way::: i.e. someone else
discovers them....you try and hawk them?...NO WAY... you
have to play ball the way we want.

THESE ARE THE RULES if you want to work with us....

1. If Enduser dosn't appear on this CD then neither will
dysphemic.

2. Dysphemic retains all ownership of the track he supplies
& can do what he wishes with that track at any time in the
future. You own nothing -for ever -or the deals off.

3. No more, sending him stuff (emails n info) exclusively,
the day after I
asked you to deal with me direct, you did -as if I am some
petty obstruction to you? GET THIS INTO YOUR HEAD:::.We
found him first & He asked me to talk to you...stop advising
him or telling him your ideas on what he should do...we are
good family friends & we talk about everything he asked me
to get involved so don't give me attitude or act like I'm
getting in the way...I can shut you down in minutes & julian
won't even speak to you so be greatful we care & happy to
get a cool track off a great artist you KNOW FUCK ALL ABOUT
OK?.
I feel you don't seem to be upfront & honest so you'd best
do what we say & prove us wrong hey? In my opinion,
considering the style you approached him in...you are lucky
we are still speaking to you...do u understand?

4. If dysphemic feels he gets nothing out of this at any
point he can  pull out at any stage that he sees fit. I'm
not crash hot on dysphemic being on CD R either.

Thats the rules, I hope your clear on a bit more now? I hope
so. Now let's sort something eh?

stay in touch.
Mic


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-03 22:39 [#01172045]
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Smack.


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2004-05-03 22:41 [#01172046]
Points: 8984 Status: Lurker



Mic sounds like a real gentleman, eh?


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-03 22:42 [#01172047]
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Give me his e-mail and I will sign him up for some FREE
PORN!


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-03 22:42 [#01172048]
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oh yeah and here's mister "mic main$tream"'s site
LAZY_TITLE

you may notice that about 80 percent of the releases are his
and the other 20 percent are compilations which feature him

also you may notice his music is shit

also he fucking treats his artists like property instead of
people


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-05-03 22:45 [#01172051]
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cunt! bad cunt, not good.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-03 22:47 [#01172052]
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also dysphemic is no where near the best on the comp
considering the line up so far: Amen Wayons, Dirqual, Drop
the Lime, Dysphemic, Electric Kettle, Enduser, Pale, Hoggle,
Saskrotch, Skeeter, Widget Phreak, Wisp.



 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-03 22:48 [#01172053]
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yeah if i didn't like dysphemics shit so much (and also he
seems like a nice guy) i would tell him to fuck right off


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-03 22:55 [#01172059]
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Wait wait what's the deal here?

What a shit eating prick. I cannot express how much this guy
needs a brick to the perpetually flaccid penis.

This sounds really egotistical but its meant to be an offer:
if anything I ever do sounds fresh enough feel free to
dangle it infront of his pussy ass face and say "Naw he'll
never identify with you because orange dust thinks you're a
little bitch and the industry is going to trample your sad
ass".

Sorry if that sounds conceited or anything :\


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-03 22:58 [#01172060]
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hahaha naw it's cool

like i said if he gives me more shit i'll just drop
dysphemic, tell mic to eat my nuts and tell dysphemic that
i'm sorry he can't be on a compilation (which would only
help his dismal "celebrity" since he's stuck on a shitty
austrailian label focused around the owner) because his
friend is a cunt


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-03 23:06 [#01172061]
Points: 3803 Status: Regular



Nah fuck that lemme get my hands dirty can I email him
this?

"Word to the wise: artists are not property of labels. I've
learned of some problems in the ways you guys conduct your
business and I'm removing sending a small catalogue of my
stuff to your label as free listening / demo material and I
know a few other talented artists who are extremely likely
to have done the same.

Labels work for artists. without labels the music still
exists but without the artists the labels don't mean shit."

I'm stirring MAJOR shit but who cares, I love a fight.
Besides, Toecutter will have heard of me. He'll know who I
am, in a good way (some of my old laptop heads moved over
there and have strong ties with him, and they were really
positive about what i was doing)


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-03 23:11 [#01172062]
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fuckit I'm sending it!


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2004-05-03 23:14 [#01172063]
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That label owner sounds like a guy who's not got any sort of
legal rights over Dysphemic, and is shitting himself and
it's coming out in raw pubescent aggression.

If I were you I'd continue to deal with Dysphemic
exclusively - In my scene we have to deal with pushey dick
head label owners and managers all the time! The only way is
to go over their heads and forget them - If he's got a
proper contract with his artists then he's got nothing to
worry about...

Otherwise he's just an unimportant little man who doesn't
know how to interact with people sensibly or politely.


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2004-05-03 23:18 [#01172064]
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Agreed. Mic might as well go back to playing with his little
plastic army men (or musicians, if you will) if he refuses
to let people express themselves. His ego needs to be shot.


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-03 23:19 [#01172065]
Points: 13411 Status: Lurker



Hahahah! I know Mic Main$tream and Dysphemic



 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-05-03 23:21 [#01172066]
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Mic sounds like a total shallow cunt. Whata fuckface.

OD: DO IT MAN!

J Swift + Pachi: I also agree



 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-03 23:37 [#01172073]
Points: 3803 Status: Regular



Yeah I sent it, and added a little "If you wanna know who I
am some of your artists migh know of me, I used to roll with
the 8 Bit Recordings crew in Perth"

I know the email also comes off as like I think I'm bigger
than I am, but realise it's all a front. I know I'm just
another mp3 kid, but I gotta make em feel like they really
LOST something, ya dig?

:D:D Hope ya don't mind, Roygbivcore. I think me and
Toecutter know of each other, unsure about any others....


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-03 23:44 [#01172075]
Points: 22557 Status: Lurker



nah it's cool if anything happens i'll just email dysphemic
and let him know exactly what went down instead of what mic
probably told him


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-05-03 23:44 [#01172076]
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toecutter is SUCH A NICE GUY eh?


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-03 23:48 [#01172077]
Points: 13411 Status: Lurker



Haha! yeah Mic has been like this for ages. funny shit.

a shame you didnt contact Jules thru www.shitwank.com which
is run by his brother! who is passenger of shit.

the recent dysphemic stuff is awesome, seen him play a
couple of times.

I personally think that it should be the artists decision,


and hey he's comming down here with Toecutter later in the
month, I can punch him in the mouth if you wish!


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-03 23:52 [#01172080]
Points: 3803 Status: Regular



I've never talked to Toecutter or actually heard any of his
stuff, but I've heard OF him loads and I know Noistruct has
some kind of ties with him and I think he's given him CDs of
mine (hehe Noistruct is cool, he's really positive about my
music, the equivalent of a kick in the ass but not by being
negative, tops bloke)


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-03 23:53 [#01172081]
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If you really want dysphemic on the comp. let me know, coz I
might be able to pull a few strings for ya!

OD - Yeh YEH You tell 'em mate, :D could you imagine Adam
Ninja in a fight? teehehe


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-03 23:53 [#01172082]
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well i tried to but the email on his site was wrong (they
left of the .au at the end)

so i had to ask him because he was the only one i knew that
i thought would know


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-04 00:22 [#01172089]
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hahaha man i just heard back from him after getting that
email from od

he got pissed


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:25 [#01172090]
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POST POST POST!!!!!!


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:26 [#01172091]
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I'm such a shit stirrer, let's see if he replied.

Adam Ninja shouldnever have to be in a fight, he's a fucking
champion, I can't imagine anyone having a reason to fight
him but hehe yeah I know what ya mean :)


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2004-05-04 00:27 [#01172092]
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i wonder what his reaction is if you say hello to him.


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:30 [#01172095]
Points: 3803 Status: Regular



Hahahah they indeed did get very pissed!

> > Nobody owns anything & they never have. Who are you &
why are you in
> contact
> > with me?
> >
> > hey mate...would you care to explain who u are?\
> >
> > . I don't know why you are emailing me about this...If
it's to do with
> > saskrotch...I'd suggest you mind your own biz. The
artist is a young
guy,
> a
> > family friend, he & his brothers & folks...who I am
lending money too to
> > start their own label asked me to get involved. I don't
make a cent out
of
> > putting their stuff out, they tell me what they do/
don't want to be on
> > ....ha ownership...what a fucken joke.
> >
> > adam 8 bit makes cheesy latino breaks in melbourne now &
diss's his past
> so
> > whats it to me that you rolled with him?
> >
> > Why are you writting to me? Really, I don't get it?



 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:30 [#01172096]
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I'd probably be like...

HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:31 [#01172097]
Points: 3803 Status: Regular



and then I get this from the same bloke. Dunon who it's from
though

> oh yeh ok 8bit records...so what? thats cool n all...we
are not having any
> problems? & we have a backlog of artists to put out
too...whats the
problems
> you heard of? PAIN is an institute, not a label, we do all
sorts of
things,
> the artists retain full control...the only person I deal
with is my world
> wide distro MArk N. We had lunch on saturday & we are
still great
> friends...I can't imagine there is much truth behind what
you hear because
> apart from Mark N, the person I have spoken too recently
abput labels or
> "affairs" is saskrotch.
> Why don't you call mark N - he will tell you how & what &
who I am. Go
> on...bloodyfist records newcastle...ask him what type of
person I am...I
> dare you.
>
> The artist sakrotch was after was least impressed with his
approach, I'm
> just sticking up for julian.
>
> you got a problem with friends helping each other>?
>
> talk to the artists.
>
> peace who ever/ what ever you are...
> sorry to say this...u listen to way too much shit.

I dunon who all these people are haha


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:32 [#01172098]
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hmmm I'm in over my head. I keep getting this nagging
feeling that I should care somewhat but it's .... just .....
not..... happening....


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2004-05-04 00:33 [#01172099]
Points: 6045 Status: Lurker



i don't like ppl that say hello to much......HELLO OWN IT'S
RIGHTS TO IT'S OWN HELLO's.
hEElo!!!!!!!!


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:34 [#01172100]
Points: 3803 Status: Regular



I can't believe he talked shit to Adam Ninja, fucking NOBODY
talks shit to Adam Ninja. That's like saying Bill n Ted were
assholes, it just doesn't happen.


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:35 [#01172102]
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I like how he mentioned having lunch with Mark N.

fuck this is fuckin weird,


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:37 [#01172104]
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Hahah
this thread ROCKS!
man my xltronic crew and real life crew are clashing
together!



 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:37 [#01172105]
Points: 3803 Status: Regular



Who the shit is julian and mark n?


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:39 [#01172106]
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Mark N = runs bloodyfist records
Julian = dysphemic
Mic = main$tream


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:40 [#01172107]
Points: 3803 Status: Regular



The funny thing is I .... sort of don't like breakcore.
Meaning any opinion of bloody fist and all that means very
little to me. I've been asked to get into contact with them
on several occasions when I had ties with 8 BIT and never
did because..... I just ...haven't heard any of the
australian breakcore that doesn't sound like amateurish
tripe to me. ARGH I hate to say it becaus eI',m sure they'r
great people and I'm sorry if I offend anyone over that but
I just hate all the breakcore I've heard. And believe me me
and Modex ..... we've heard a lot of it. And it's put both
of us off it haah


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:42 [#01172110]
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Should I mail back
"Hahaha dude it was just a heads up letting you know I'm not
going to be associating with you! If you guys are so big it
won't even fucking matter, right? Also bagging Adam Ninja
probaly isn't as strategic a move as you may have thought."

I don't know if I can even be bothered replying :P
It won't really go aynwhre exciting


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:44 [#01172111]
Points: 13411 Status: Lurker | Followup to od_step_cloak: #01172107



I guess if you went down that path you would of known those
guys pretty well.

I think its funny that person kinda BRAGGED about his
connection with Mark N. I got Mark to distro some of my
records to Soundbase in Germany and Underground music in the
UK, but I'm not gonna let you know thru some come-back
email! HA!


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:46 [#01172112]
Points: 13411 Status: Lurker | Followup to od_step_cloak: #01172110



Mail back... "I'M ORANGE DUST MUTHA FUCKARRRRRRRRR!!!! AND
ONCE THE 8 BIT KREW IS DONE WITH YA YOU'LL BE HEADING BACK
TO THE HOUSE/TRANCE SCENE WHERE YOU BELONG!"

or something.



 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:48 [#01172115]
Points: 3803 Status: Regular



Yeah I kinda wanna retract that remark on aus breakcore and
rephrase it: it may be good (it probably is), but I just
can't enjoy it. at all.

Ehh yeah he totally bit my head off! Didn't even buy me a
drink before he dumped me! boohoo ;-)

Interesting exchange anyway


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:49 [#01172116]
Points: 7983 Status: Lurker



wicked (hi-pitched voice)


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:53 [#01172119]
Points: 13411 Status: Lurker | Followup to od_step_cloak: #01172115



Yeh like most music, you gotta look hard for some quality.
and if its not your thing then you'll be lucky to find any.
breakcore is pretty popular here yes. where there is good
there is shit.

I'm kinda swinging towards drill and speed jungle stuff.


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:54 [#01172120]
Points: 3803 Status: Regular



Oh no here comes mr mature to rain on my parade and tell me
to grow up and stop being a bitch

j/k mate :)


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:55 [#01172121]
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This was aimed at RockenJohnny btw.

:D:D:D You ever talked to any of those distorted amen
mashup east end heads before, John?


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:55 [#01172122]
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haha who me??

careful maan, CAREFUL!! I have powerful friends that can
break(core) youuuuu!!!!!!!!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

;)


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:56 [#01172123]
Points: 13411 Status: Lurker | Followup to od_step_cloak: #01172121



oops.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:58 [#01172125]
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i know whos come from here to go over there, yeah


 


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