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offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2004-05-11 17:32 [#01183211]
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Ok let me try and write it more clear:

I was trying to say that most of the soldiers stationed
there haven't a clue about the true purpose of this war.
They truly think this is all about their precious (but in
reality non-existant) fight for freedom while the people
pulling the strings, who were actually quite aware of the
immense chaos that was about to be unleashed upon Iraq, had
a totally different agenda, an agenda concerning contracts
and financial aspects (of which oil is but a minor part) and
not at all towards the humane aspect. Whatever bolloxing
freedom shit story they're selling the world is just a cheap
smokescreen and everyone's buying into it. Which is why I
stated that the soldiers are put there for show, and I'm
quite aware that they're getting killed and beheaded and
whatever more, but that's exactly why I called them stupid
because they're getting killed not "protecting our freedom",
but simply protecting the head honcho's dirty business
interests, who always enjoy full deniability. It had in fact
nothing to do with any disrespect shown towards these
people, but more so with my tendancy to feel sorry for their
ignorance over this entire situation.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2004-05-11 17:49 [#01183217]
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I do wonder about this, while I am sure some poor lad has
had his head cut off in the most horrific manner, I wonder
if this video, that we´ve all pretty much seen, is put out
to counter all the images of degraded Iraqui prisoners? So
that we think, well making a gay pyramid with them is quite
bad but we didn't cut their heads of like pigs. I am just
wondering about the timing of it.


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2004-05-11 17:52 [#01183220]
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Very well observed indeed.


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-05-11 17:57 [#01183225]
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I was thing about that right now. It is indeed very weird..


 

offline Peter File from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2004-05-11 18:01 [#01183230]
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"I wonder if this video, that we´ve all pretty much
seen, is put out to counter all the images of degraded
Iraqui prisoners?"


Well, it does say in the BBC article that the group
explicitly stated that "it was carrying out the killing in
retaliation for the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by US
soldiers."


 

offline Peter File from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2004-05-11 18:03 [#01183232]
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Erm, forgot to replace that lazy_url thing with the actual
url: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3705409.stm


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2004-05-11 18:05 [#01183236]
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Yes, but i guess i mean the media handling of it, every
transcript of it notes the guy screams... People die
everyday, Americans get shot everyday there, i know this
chap is a civilian and killed on video, but i can't help
feel the media are complicit in making this another iconic
image, to up the ante on the Iraqui with the bag on his head
and wires on his fingers, that will be used to shut up
dissenters of the "war on freedom".


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-05-11 18:05 [#01183237]
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I guess the guerillas don't give a fuck about what the
international community thinks. Not a smart move
strategically.


 

offline Peter File from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2004-05-11 18:12 [#01183244]
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Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. Yeah, the thought did cross my
mind... "These are BARBARIANS we are dealing with... see?
They don't deserve better than the treatment they've
received." No doubt some conspiracy theorist's already busy
putting together a web page about how this was actually
carried out by the CIA.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2004-05-11 18:15 [#01183246]
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Exactly, after "Fucking hell..." that was my next thought,
thinking "these fucking animals screaming about Allah...".


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2004-05-11 19:52 [#01183327]
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Well they are wearing masks ;)


 


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